Dude, call a spade a spade. Your team is going to have to give something up to put streit on the books. Your GM new what he was trading for in terms of cap hit so he must have a plan to use both buyouts and a trade or two. Not a bad thing, it is just the way it is. Only bad if that rookie was any good but I don't know if he is or if they can't get a deal done. But I am sure those were considered before the trigger was pulled.
- bsteinley

Of course those things were considered -- nothing happens in a vacuum. The Flyers aren't a bunch of morons. They'll use the two compliance buyouts like everyone else has, they'll put Chris Pronger on LTIR just like any team does with an injured player, and they'll be in cap compliance.

It's ridiculous and stupid when someone throws out the line "they're in cap hell" when they should know that the Flyers can clear up $12.1 million off the cap just by buying out Daniel Briere and Ilya Bryzgalov. Another $4 million off the cap goes away if/when they trade Meszaros, who has one year left on his deal.

And if anybody thinks they won't be able to move Meszaros, keep in mind that Roman Josi just signed for SEVEN YEARS, $4 million per.

So no, the Flyers don't have a cap problem. They'd have a cap problem if they were a broke franchise -- and one thing the Flyers aren't is cash-poor.

Dubnyk ~ Peckham ~ Fedun
Potter ~ Jones ~ J. Schultz
Smid ~ Paajarvi ~ Brown
Eberle ~ N. Schultz ~ VandeVelde

RNH ~ Gagner
Smyth ~ Petry
Lander ~ Yakupov
Petrell

Belov
Hall

^^^^Does this mean you Won the Bryz Sweepstakes I wanted him in TO
- Jimmy_wiener

(frank), I certainly hope not.

A few more years drafting in the top 5 should take care of all organizational depth issues that the Oilers may be facing.




WAR BRUINS

A few more years drafting in the top 5 should take care of all organizational depth issues that the Oilers may be facing.




WAR BRUINS
- Seabass2012

How dare he disrespect my team like this! Ban this user ASAP!!!

I am not worried about getting an expensive dman like Edler. I think he is too expensive for Van. Unfortunately I think both have the type of contracts we will be forced to look at to get a deal done. For us Edlers contract is a necessary evil. For Van it makes it so they can't sign enough forwards to fill 4 full lines.
- bsteinley

how is anyone forced to taking edlers contract and how is it evil? you know that gonchar just signed for the same cap hit???

A few notes....Timo likely to retire after next season.....after that Coburn, Mezsaros ,Grossman and Schenn are all under 30.

Unlike your Oilers, the Flyers are not always in rebuilding mode.

Chances are they move one of those other D men, for help elsewhere.....a couple decent 5-6 young d men can be brought in to play the "proper" amount of minutes that a young d should play

Chances are Briere and the universe are bought out.

Today's trade gives them a top 2 d man ( hopefully) for the next couple of years.

We don't know Homers plan....with regards to forwards.....I would suggest that if they had a plan to fit Weber in a year ago then all this move today means its not the end of roster moves.

Don't worry--you can always trade your first round pick for Gardiner and Kulemin

I'm not telling you guys how to feel about the state of your organizational defensive depth in general, but be happy you "missed out" on Streit. You'll get plenty of offensive output from Schultz. Streit's offensive ability is undeniable, but has been waning a little every year since we signed him. His defensive skill is next to nothing. He's routinely caught out of position and is generally just a giant defensive liability. At the price tag he wants (and will probably get), it's just not worth it.

Halfway through the season when Streit's defensive lapse is responsible for yet another goal, and Philly fans start pelting him with batteries, assaulting him, or whatever it is they're into there...you won't be upset about not having him.

Of course those things were considered -- nothing happens in a vacuum. The Flyers aren't a bunch of morons. They'll use the two compliance buyouts like everyone else has, they'll put Chris Pronger on LTIR just like any team does with an injured player, and they'll be in cap compliance.

It's ridiculous and stupid when someone throws out the line "they're in cap hell" when they should know that the Flyers can clear up $12.1 million off the cap just by buying out Daniel Briere and Ilya Bryzgalov. Another $4 million off the cap goes away if/when they trade Meszaros, who has one year left on his deal.

And if anybody thinks they won't be able to move Meszaros, keep in mind that Roman Josi just signed for SEVEN YEARS, $4 million per.

So no, the Flyers don't have a cap problem. They'd have a cap problem if they were a broke franchise -- and one thing the Flyers aren't is cash-poor.
- AllInForFlyers

Then things are cool. I am sure they will be able to find replacements or have replacements already that fit with the 12 mill room they have for Briere and Bry. You do know that bloggers have a tendency to exaggerate and that your dmen aren't actually 71. So I don't know why you are upset? I would let it go and join the conversation.

Then things are cool. I am sure they will be able to find replacements or have replacements already that fit with the 12 mill room they have for Briere and Bry. You do know that bloggers have a tendency to exaggerate and that your dmen aren't actually 71. So I don't know why you are upset? I would let it go and join the conversation.
- bsteinley

I wasn't actually irritated until I realized that the Oilers had more 30-year-old defensemen on their roster last season with Whitney and Nick Schultz, as well as Corey Potter at 29 years old, than the Flyers -- yet the blogger has consistently been calling for the Oilers to acquire Streit.

You're right; I shouldn't be irritated because I've seen this act before. But some days, you just get tired of it because we live in an era where you can look stuff up on a phone.

how is anyone forced to taking edlers contract and how is it evil? you know that gonchar just signed for the same cap hit???
- allen_gamble

Gonchars contract is also ridiculous. Edler is not as good as Hamhuis or Bieksa who get paid less and they signed Edler for an 80 year extension. Plus I don't like Edler. I think he is weak defensively. Good offensively. His contract is Evil because he would be our highest paid guy for a long time. A very good chance that over those years Justin, Petry, Klefbom and maybe one of the other younger players could out play him. He could end up being our future horcoff on D. However if that becomes the case we would have amazing dmen and would be able to trade one easily.

Still, sucks to have to take that much of a cap hit for a guy that is not a two way player. However he was just an example. There are other teams that we could trade with as well.

Halfway through the season when Streit's defensive lapse is responsible for yet another goal, and Philly fans start pelting him with batteries, assaulting him, or whatever it is they're into there...you won't be upset about not having him.
Eichiefs9

I endured the last year of Matt Carle.....and this year with Bruno Gervais......no offence but streits a huge upgrade over both....so hopefully he signs.

I wasn't actually irritated until I realized that the Oilers had more 30-year-old defensemen on their roster last season with Whitney and Nick Schultz, as well as Corey Potter at 29 years old, than the Flyers -- yet the blogger has consistently been calling for the Oilers to acquire Streit.

You're right; I shouldn't be irritated because I've seen this act before. But some days, you just get tired of it because we live in an era where you can look stuff up on a phone.
- AllInForFlyers

True but he does that to get people to spark "conversation" on his blogs. Truth is Streit is the only decent UFA defense man to be had this year. Many teams need one and now people are going to try to out bid for Clitsome and not just because of his cool name.

did I just read that the oilers will be fine on defence because of belov and klefbom and don't NEED to add anyone?

please let this be just another troll blog and not actually what you think
- hugefemale dog77

Oh he believes it and so do I so do I

Don't worry--you can always trade your first round pick for Gardiner and Kulemin


- bluepulasky

No one wants Kulemin and Gardiner is not worth a first round pick in the top 10 this year.

Eichiefs9

I endured the last year of Matt Carle.....and this year with Bruno Gervais......no offence but streits a huge upgrade over both....so hopefully he signs.
- landros 2

Trust me I have watched many, many Mark Streit (and Gervais ) games over the course of my indentured servitude as an Isles fan. Speaking strictly about their defensive play, it's not exactly worlds apart. Streit obviously brings the offense, but he also comes with an exponentially higher price tag.

I appreciated his time here, but with some of the guys we have on the team/ready to make the jump, I'm also happy to see him move on. Glad he had no issue finding a team that wanted him. However, I can't wait to beat the crap out of him (or anyone) in a Flyers jersey

True but he does that to get people to spark "conversation" on his blogs. Truth is Streit is the only decent UFA defense man to be had this year. Many teams need one and now people are going to try to out bid for Clitsome and not just because of his cool name.
- bsteinley

You're a cool dude -- thanks for calming me down and, for the record, I think the combination of Craig MacTavish and Dallas Eakins is going to be awesome.

The Oilers have some work to do with their bottom six and I wouldn't necessarily be afraid of trading one of their young players in a fair deal for some size on the wing, but at the same time, there are plenty of moves they will be able to make, with the cap coming down and buyouts to come, that should see them continue to improve.

Don't worry--you can always trade your first round pick for Gardiner and Kulemin


- bluepulasky

If that's directed at the Flyers???? In a heart beat.

Get that bottom 6 into the minors, bunch of bums
- freelancer

Trust me I have watched many, many Mark Streit (and Gervais ) games over the course of my indentured servitude as an Isles fan. Speaking strictly about their defensive play, it's not exactly worlds apart. Streit obviously brings the offense, but he also comes with an exponentially higher price tag.

I appreciated his time here, but with some of the guys we have on the team/ready to make the jump, I'm also happy to see him move on. Glad he had no issue finding a team that wanted him. However, I can't wait to beat the crap out of him (or anyone) in a Flyers jersey
- eichiefs9

Hey I can't knock ya....your allowed to dream!!

I still say if you can't upgrade the defense you upgrade the goalies or find some significant two way forwards. Getting a goalie is the easiest. A top 10 is on the market, arguably a top 5 and he is going for a cheap price. Just we are too biased against him to see that he is worth his salary. Even though it goes till he is 42. Hasek is still playing at 48.

No one wants Kulemin and Gardiner is not worth a first round pick in the top 10 this year.
- bsteinley

I think he is....he has a poop load of talent and upside...

You know, it's one thing to not really care about other teams, not follow them. You've always been open about that -- you care about the Edmonton Oilers. That's who you blog about. So no real harm done there.

But does that mean you feel the need to sound like an absolute clown when you post something like this: The comedy in all of this is, the Flyers had a cap issue to cope with before they acquired Streit. The player wants around $5mil per season; meaning, the Flyers cap problem is about to go from bad to worse. If you ask me, and I'm just a peasant I realize, the Flyers should be more concerned about adding young pieces to take over when the vets move on. The current average age of the D on the team is 71.

That last sentence is laughable. It's mind-blowing in its sheer ignorance, to the degree that you not only embarrass yourself, you embarrass any credibility this website has.

Before acquiring Streit, the Flyers' top 6 defensemen were Kimmo Timonen at age 38, Braydon Coburn at age 28, Nicklas Grossmann at age 27, Luke Schenn at age 23, Andrej Meszaros at age 27, and Bruno Gervais at age 28.

Their seventh defenseman is Erik Gustafsson, who is 23 years old.

Again, it's one thing to care about your team. That's fine. But there's no excuse whatsoever to be so ridiculously ignorant, it jars people from reading what you wrote because it's so blatantly incorrect.


- AllInForFlyers

Well with those players they are pretty old, and when he says average age of 71 it is just a joke. The fact you get so butthurt by a clout's comment just goes to show your ignorance of Clout's writing. This website has no credibility so none to embarrass. Now stop your crying and enjoy game 1 ya big baby.

You know, it's one thing to not really care about other teams, not follow them. You've always been open about that -- you care about the Edmonton Oilers. That's who you blog about. So no real harm done there.

But does that mean you feel the need to sound like an absolute clown when you post something like this: The comedy in all of this is, the Flyers had a cap issue to cope with before they acquired Streit. The player wants around $5mil per season; meaning, the Flyers cap problem is about to go from bad to worse. If you ask me, and I'm just a peasant I realize, the Flyers should be more concerned about adding young pieces to take over when the vets move on. The current average age of the D on the team is 71.

That last sentence is laughable. It's mind-blowing in its sheer ignorance, to the degree that you not only embarrass yourself, you embarrass any credibility this website has.

Before acquiring Streit, the Flyers' top 6 defensemen were Kimmo Timonen at age 38, Braydon Coburn at age 28, Nicklas Grossmann at age 27, Luke Schenn at age 23, Andrej Meszaros at age 27, and Bruno Gervais at age 28.

Their seventh defenseman is Erik Gustafsson, who is 23 years old.

Again, it's one thing to care about your team. That's fine. But there's no excuse whatsoever to be so ridiculously ignorant, it jars people from reading what you wrote because it's so blatantly incorrect.


- AllInForFlyers

Such anger, or so it seems via words. There are several bloggers on this site that intentionally write nonsense like this, Richard included. It provokes responses and drives traffic, which is good for the site. You just have to shake your head and be happy that 90% of what they write is BS.