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Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 13 @ 1:46 AM ET
Well three cheers for Bobby-Mac. And yes, sweeten it all the more with prospects or one of our roster players to get the better player in any case.

I wish there were more "along the lines of M Staal" that could be had...

Not to quibble on Ebs but I do see flashes of a good back check every now and then when he plays with purpose.
Man, our D is so bad, when Eberle actually corrals the puck down low in the D zone I'm stoked in comparison. i find he makes goods decisions at that point - dude has poise.

In Eakins we trust.

- Salvo


Okay,so our D is bad. If we bring in another top four,that leaves us 4 others getting paid like a top 4. Shouldn't we move one of Smid,Petry or N.Schultz?
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:47 AM ET
that one too.
it was my favourite series thus far. just an all out war with two big, relentless, physical teams. scary to think of the nuge in that series.

this one may prove to be the best of the playoffs though

- hugefemale dog77


Yah it was nuts. Even San Jose / STL was nearly on the same level.

It really did seem like LA was so tired by the time they hit the Windy City.

Healy made some comments alluding to that which made sense and I don't always hear: Even when you're the team laying the body and perhaps imposing your physical will on the opponent - it actually wears you down as well. And yes, they did take a beating form STL and SJS at times obviously.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:48 AM ET
If we could send a mix of hemsky,horcoff(half cap retained) paajarvi, the 7th, both seconds, marincin, musil, pitlick, etc to nab two of staal, bogo and tyutin, id be a very happy fan.

Staal Schultz
Tyutin petry
Smid Schultz

- ystoil


one can dream...
ystoil
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Edmonton
Joined: 02.26.2011

Jun 13 @ 1:49 AM ET
one can dream...
- hugefemale dog77


Tonight I will
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:50 AM ET
Yah it was nuts. Even San Jose / STL was nearly on the same level.

It really did seem like LA was so tired by the time they hit the Windy City.

Healy made some comments alluding to that which made sense and I don't always hear: Even when you're the team laying the body and perhaps imposing your physical will on the opponent - it actually wears you down as well. And yes, they did take a beating form STL and SJS at times obviously.

- Salvo

fo show.

I actually picked LA in that series. seemed like they just didn't have the wheels to keep up though.
and that absolutely coulda had tons to do with the first 2 series' they played in
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 13 @ 1:52 AM ET
im a fan for the most part. he still makes bone headed decisions, but hes our best all around dman imo. the only true two way guy we got.

I really don't think we can afford to deal either him or smid. even in a package for 1 star. we just don't have the depth. we need to add quality without subtracting if at all possible. at least on the backend anyway.

however, id have no problem moving n Schultz for another 3rd pairing of his ilk that makes 1.5 less. he really disappointed me this year and I think theres many cheaper options out there that could provide the same quality as he did. but again, still wouldn't consider moving him unless another ones coming back. we cant afford to lose the depth

- hugefemale dog77

Franson+21st+Scrivens for 7th+N.Schultz
Good trade for both teams in my books.
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:55 AM ET
Okay,so our D is bad. If we bring in another top four,that leaves us 4 others getting paid like a top 4. Shouldn't we move one of Smid,Petry or N.Schultz?
- Jeropotato


Well you raise a good point. We do need all the depth we can get but yeah, I'm not opposed to one of those guys on the outs depending on the return---which I understand is an easy thing to say.

You know, it's a really tough call...Is Petry a Tom Poti + still in two years? Perhaps that's harsh.

Off the top of my head right now, I say no, bring in the top four if you can get a Gunnarson with the 7th and if we're not too butted up against the cap. Fine.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 2:00 AM ET
Franson+21st+Scrivens for 7th+N.Schultz
Good trade for both teams in my books.

- Ihatebrianburke

not terrible.

its not a real sexy looking trade, but fills a few holes and we still get a first .
id certainly consider it.
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Jun 13 @ 2:00 AM ET
fo show.

I actually picked LA in that series. seemed like they just didn't have the wheels to keep up though.
and that absolutely coulda had tons to do with the first 2 series' they played in

- hugefemale dog77


Yes. Even with Richards and a slightly healthier Stoll (who knows what effects the concussion had on his finer details) I still think they lose that one now that I look back.

I was 8th in a deep hockey pool having picked LA as well and of course: Pittsburgh.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 2:04 AM ET
Yes. Even with Richards and a slightly healthier Stoll (who knows what effects the concussion had on his finer details) I still think they lose that one now that I look back.

I was 8th in a deep hockey pool having picked LA as well and of course: Pittsburgh.

- Salvo

I loaded up on bruins in mine. its a dead heat right now
TheNugeIsHuge
Edmonton Oilers
Location: McJesus, AB
Joined: 01.09.2013

Jun 13 @ 2:11 AM ET
Okay,so our D is bad. If we bring in another top four,that leaves us 4 others getting paid like a top 4. Shouldn't we move one of Smid,Petry or N.Schultz?
- Jeropotato


not until cap is a problem
Salvo
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 02.13.2009

Jun 13 @ 2:19 AM ET
I loaded up on bruins in mine. its a dead heat right now
- hugefemale dog77


Nice pick man. I had a couple "teams" goin with a friend that were Pitt heavy and variations on CHI/LA/ANA.

I wanna hear what guys are thinkin about Eakins.

I think I love him. The guy reminds me of an ex-navy seal or marine turned hitman.
He's a hitman and hockey coach.

He's actually lulled me into thinkin HE will win the games.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 2:27 AM ET
Nice pick man. I had a couple "teams" goin with a friend that were Pitt heavy and variations on CHI/LA/ANA.

I wanna hear what guys are thinkin about Eakins.

I think I love him. The guy reminds me of an ex-navy seal or marine turned hitman.
He's a hitman and hockey coach.

He's actually lulled me into thinkin HE will win the games.

- Salvo

very optimistic. loved the comment about how relentless conditioning and buying in are non negotiable. he seems stern as fuk, but his players say they loved playing for him.

actually argued with some handicap poster the other day who's convinced its a bad decision cause he's young. and we that needed another recycled vet coach like the ones who just got fired. ruff, torts etc.

pretty stoked on both Eakins and mact at this point. time will tell
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 13 @ 2:32 AM ET
not terrible.

its not a real sexy looking trade, but fills a few holes and we still get a first .
id certainly consider it.

- hugefemale dog77

Not too sexy just a good solid hockey trade. Fits MacT's vision of making our blue line more agile and we get a solid backup and even though I dislike it we'd get to take Lazar like I know they want to do. They get a solid stay at home defenseman and a high pick.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 13 @ 2:39 AM ET
very optimistic. loved the comment about how relentless conditioning and buying in are non negotiable. he seems stern as fuk, but his players say they loved playing for him.

actually argued with some handicap poster the other day who's convinced its a bad decision cause he's young. and we that needed another recycled vet coach like the ones who just got fired. ruff, torts etc.

pretty stoked on both Eakins and mact at this point. time will tell

- hugefemale dog77

I'm pumped about Eakins comments too. I think he was the right choice. At this point I just want the playoffs to end and to get to the draft already.
time2produce
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 13 @ 3:11 AM ET
its so sad to b an oiler fan so many holes that realistically itll b 3years b4 we make the playoffs an when we do eberle,nuge,hall,shultz will all b invisible. all the players I mentioned couldn't compete with a fly unless hall knees him. if there not willing to compete this year trade them while u can and get a 1a dman that's missing. we also need a new scout, oilers don't have anyone out of the 1st round that can compete, why does every other team have 1 or 2 of these guys? im sick of ppl saying give the kids time, u either have it or u don't. we need players like shaw, marchant, oduya, bolland, not spoiled kids who play when they want to. this team will never compete til they hire an experienced coach, last 2 coaches had no head coaching experience so hey why not hire another 1 seems to b working? the reason I left yakupov off the list is he competes on and off the ice. we finished 29th last year and the goal was to make the playoff this year so who do they add? fistic,smithenson,brown wow howd they not make it? I know ppl r going to hate these things I said but come on we ve been patiently waiting for 7years now its about time 2 take chances things aren't working the way there going. I know no one wants to sign here so the only way is to make a big trade[eberle] plus r 1st and grab the best d u can. I don't disagree with management though why take risks or try 2 make this team better when ur in last place and there sold out every game. hopefully Eakins makes it past 48 gms go oilers go
time2produce
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 13 @ 3:19 AM ET
very optimistic. loved the comment about how relentless conditioning and buying in are non negotiable. he seems stern as fuk, but his players say they loved playing for him.

actually argued with some handicap poster the other day who's convinced its a bad decision cause he's young. and we that needed another recycled vet coach like the ones who just got fired. ruff, torts etc.

pretty stoked on both Eakins and mact at this point. time will tell

- hugefemale dog77

lol I said torts and ruff cause there better than Eakins and they have the stats 2 prove it. I really want AV. ur the guy last year saying kruger will turn this team around I know it hahaha teams that r good can take chances on rookie coaches. these kids want someone that knows and has experience not some guy saying all the right things like kruger did
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 13 @ 3:27 AM ET
its so sad to b an oiler fan so many holes that realistically itll b 3years b4 we make the playoffs an when we do eberle,nuge,hall,shultz will all b invisible. all the players I mentioned couldn't compete with a fly unless hall knees him. if there not willing to compete this year trade them while u can and get a 1a dman that's missing. we also need a new scout, oilers don't have anyone out of the 1st round that can compete, why does every other team have 1 or 2 of these guys? im sick of ppl saying give the kids time, u either have it or u don't. we need players like shaw, marchant, oduya, bolland, not spoiled kids who play when they want to. this team will never compete til they hire an experienced coach, last 2 coaches had no head coaching experience so hey why not hire another 1 seems to b working? the reason I left yakupov off the list is he competes on and off the ice. we finished 29th last year and the goal was to make the playoff this year so who do they add? fistic,smithenson,brown wow howd they not make it? I know ppl r going to hate these things I said but come on we ve been patiently waiting for 7years now its about time 2 take chances things aren't working the way there going. I know no one wants to sign here so the only way is to make a big trade
- time2produce[eberle] plus r 1st and grab the best d u can. I don't disagree with management though why take risks or try 2 make this team better when ur in last place and there sold out every game. hopefully Eakins makes it past 48 gms go oilers go

Wow you're a real debbie downer of an Oilers fan. And a pretty uneducated one at that. Our kids are the only ones on the team that have been competing. The vets we have are useless. Its been said countless times by analysts, announcers, coaches, bloggers, and fans. I don't know what team you're watching.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:32 AM ET
lol I said torts and ruff cause there better than Eakins and they have the stats 2 prove it. I really want AV. ur the guy last year saying kruger will turn this team around I know it hahaha teams that r good can take chances on rookie coaches. these kids want someone that knows and has experience not some guy saying all the right things like kruger did
- time2produce



not only are your posts brutal, but now your just making sh1t up. or you're mistaken on who said what. which of course wouldn't be a surprise..

I said nothing of the sort, and don't even need to bother defending myself on this one. im as glass is half empty fan as it gets and every regular poster here knows it.

no coach woulda made the playoffs with the squad we had this past season. my hope was just to be in the hunt till the end. but certainly knew we weren't ready to be a contender.

renney not only had previous experience as an asst in the nhl. but TWO head coaching positions before he came here.

think before u write. im not even annoyed anymore, im just starting to get really embarrassed for you.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 13 @ 3:33 AM ET
lol I said torts and ruff cause there better than Eakins and they have the stats 2 prove it. I really want AV. ur the guy last year saying kruger will turn this team around I know it hahaha teams that r good can take chances on rookie coaches. these kids want someone that knows and has experience not some guy saying all the right things like kruger did
- time2produce

So like Pat Quinn and Tom Renney? That worked out really well for us. Definitely not someone who works well with young players when we're loaded with them. AV would have been literally the worst coach we couldve hired. His style is not suited to this team at all. Eakins is made for this team. But I guess you know more than hockey hockey experts everywhere.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:35 AM ET
the nuge just turned 20, but he clearly doesnt have 'it'. we should ship him off.

why the fuk hasn't he brought us a cup yet? useless
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:38 AM ET
So like Pat Quinn and Tom Renney? That worked out really well for us. Definitely not someone who works well with young players when we're loaded with them. AV would have been literally the worst coach we couldve hired. His style is not suited to this team at all. Eakins is made for this team. But I guess you know more than hockey hockey experts everywhere.
- Ihatebrianburke

AV is not a young players coach at all. hes not terrible by any means, but the oilers don't fit his style one bit. he actually prefers veteran role players with some skill and numerous depth players (Higgins, booth, lapierre etc) and has zero cups. maybe he could've adapted. who knows? but to say unequivocally that he'd be better than Eakins is absolutely ridiculous.
ruff had a far better team than ours and finished one spot ahead of us. and has no cups either..
torts just coached one of the true pre season favourites to an 8th place finish and a worse finish than last year. and then got fired.


dude is a tool..........
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:40 AM ET
So like Pat Quinn and Tom Renney? That worked out really well for us. Definitely not someone who works well with young players when we're loaded with them. AV would have been literally the worst coach we couldve hired. His style is not suited to this team at all. Eakins is made for this team. But I guess you know more than hockey hockey experts everywhere.
- Ihatebrianburke

apparently renney had no previous experience before Edmonton...
ya learn something new everyday
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 13 @ 3:41 AM ET
the nuge just turned 20, but he clearly doesnt have 'it'. we should ship him off.

why the fuk hasn't he brought us a cup yet? useless

- hugefemale dog77

His comments are just ridiculous. So much hate for the team and players. He should find a new team or perhaps a less complex sport. Tiddlywinks might be more his game.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 13 @ 3:42 AM ET
His comments are just ridiculous. So much hate for the team and players. He should find a new team or perhaps a less complex sport. Tiddlywinks might be more his game.
- Ihatebrianburke

I think he's very young. or just extremely dumb
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