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Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 12:49 PM ET
i really didnt expect him to settle for anything under 4 years
- Crimsoninja

It's about time folks had reasonable expectations. Well done, Crims.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:49 PM ET
At least for us NJ folks, we can drive to Cape May and take the ferry. Made the mistake one year of missing the last ferry back and had to come home on that 1 road -- during Dover weekend.


- Flyskippy


That can be a nightmare. That said, last 4th of July, I drove through Delmarva from the Chesapeake Bay Bridege Tunnel and made it to the Ferry at Lewes 45 minutes ahead of my GPS expected time.

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:50 PM ET
i really didnt expect him to settle for anything under 4 years
- Crimsoninja


If anyone expected that after yesterday's news, they probably think that the tooth fairy is real
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 13 @ 12:51 PM ET
Dave Pagnotta of the 4th Period, is reporting Bryzgalov, and Briere will be the recipient of compliance buyouts, and Mark Streit is in negotiations to sign a 4 year deal.

The cluelessness continues.

- PLindbergh31

I really thought Bryz had another year here.
Maybe he doesn't want to come back.

If true the summer just got more interesting.

4 yrs for Streit is a bit scary.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:52 PM ET
I really thought Bryz had another year here.
Maybe he doesn't want to come back.

If true the summer just got more interesting.

4 yrs for Streit is a bit scary.

- Marc D


There's just no reason to do another year with Bryzgalov.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 12:53 PM ET
That can be a nightmare. That said, last 4th of July, I drove through Delmarva from the Chesapeake Bay Bridege Tunnel and made it to the Ferry at Lewes 45 minutes ahead of my GPS expected time.
- Jsaquella


GPS time = Google Expected Travel time - Jsaq's and Skippy's "Time to Beat"

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:54 PM ET
GPS time = Google Expected Travel time - Jsaq's and Skippy's "Time to Beat"


- Flyskippy


I had to make that bastard ferry. It was the last one and we were driving back from Florida.

Not only did we make it, we had to sit around for 20 minutes.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 12:55 PM ET
There's just no reason to do another year with Bryzgalov.
- Jsaquella

The best part about it is robbing the local beats of their go-to story. They'll still find a way to be "hockey writers" without ever having to break down or write about the game, aside from the goals and a save or two. Because it's beyond them.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 13 @ 12:56 PM ET
There's just no reason to do another year with Bryzgalov.
- Jsaquella

I guess so, except he was a pretty good goalie at times.
Better to get it over with.
The guy they bring in may not be better then Bryz.

So adding a 4th yr can lower the cap hit for Streit?
I thought the new agreement eliminated the ability to significantly front load the deal.
Maybe I misunderstood it.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:56 PM ET
The best part about it is robbing the local beats of their go-to story. They'll still find a way to be "hockey writers" without ever having to break down or write about the game, aside from the goals and a save or two. Because it's beyond them.
- Flyskippy


Egad, I fear you are right
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 13 @ 12:57 PM ET
There's just no reason to do another year with Bryzgalov.
- Jsaquella



I didnt think there was any way that the Flyers would buy out Bryz, based on what will be owed him (2/3 of the remaning eleventy billion dollars?), and they still havent... but I'm totally on board with it going forward.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 12:58 PM ET
I guess so, except he was a pretty good goalie at times.
Better to get it over with.
The guy they bring in may not be better then Bryz.

So adding a 4th yr can lower the cap hit for Streit?
I thought the new agreement eliminated the ability to significantly front load the deal.
Maybe I misunderstood it.

- Marc D

It doesn't matter who their goalie is if the entire team could just as well use bullfighter's capes and tell the goalie "You're on your own, dude!" like they did with Bryz most of last season. If they're spending more time in their own zone than in the offensive zone, they aren't going to win many games.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 12:58 PM ET
I guess so, except he was a pretty good goalie at times.
Better to get it over with.
The guy they bring in may not be better then Bryz.

So adding a 4th yr can lower the cap hit for Streit?
I thought the new agreement eliminated the ability to significantly front load the deal.
Maybe I misunderstood it.

- Marc D


Bryz played great at times, but he was far too inconsistent to justify the financial commitment. The guy the get may not be as good, but he also won't be as bug an albatross.

I like Bryz, wish it would have worked out.

The 4th year can reduce the hit, but not by as much as in the past.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 12:59 PM ET
I didnt think there was any way that the Flyers would buy out Bryz, based on what will be owed him (2/3 of the remaning eleventy billion dollars?), and they still havent... but I'm totally on board with it going forward.
- Doc_Sarcasm



Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:00 PM ET
I didnt think there was any way that the Flyers would buy out Bryz, based on what will be owed him (2/3 of the remaning eleventy billion dollars?), and they still havent... but I'm totally on board with it going forward.
- Doc_Sarcasm


I felt, once the cap recapture rules were unveiled, that there was no way they wouldn't buy out Bryzgalov. The only question to me was whether he'd get nuked in summer of 2013 or 2014
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:00 PM ET
I guess so, except he was a pretty good goalie at times.
Better to get it over with.
The guy they bring in may not be better then Bryz.

So adding a 4th yr can lower the cap hit for Streit?
I thought the new agreement eliminated the ability to significantly front load the deal.
Maybe I misunderstood it.

- Marc D



i have nothing against bryz except the cap recapture

i feel like it's going to be interesting to see how many guys get bought out and what kind of new contracts they sign with their new teams



if we ended up with a bought-out luongo, what would you all be willing to pay him?
flyler
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: LA, CA
Joined: 05.23.2008

Jun 13 @ 1:01 PM ET
I really thought Bryz had another year here.
Maybe he doesn't want to come back.

If true the summer just got more interesting.

4 yrs for Streit is a bit scary.

- Marc D


Not worried about the 4 years, as other have said that's just to bring the cap hit down. But definitely concerned with who we'd sign to replace Bryz. I'd like to look into an older experienced Vet like Nik Backstrom. I feel we could get him for less than Bryz and with a shorter contract.
BulliesPhan87
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the lone wolf of hockeybuzz
Joined: 07.31.2009

Jun 13 @ 1:01 PM ET
Bryz played great at times, but he was far too inconsistent to justify the financial commitment. The guy the get may not be as good, but he also won't be as bug an albatross.

I like Bryz, wish it would have worked out.

The 4th year can reduce the hit, but not by as much as in the past.

- Jsaquella

I think the deciding factor is the cap recapture. There's some serious cap risk there if they don't buy him out.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

Jun 13 @ 1:03 PM ET
It doesn't matter who their goalie is if the entire team could just as well use bullfighter's capes and tell the goalie "You're on your own, dude!" like they did with Bryz most of last season. If they're spending more time in their own zone than in the offensive zone, they aren't going to win many games.
- Flyskippy

We are a giddy up and go, attack the puck team
No sitting back and protecting the goalie here
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:04 PM ET
I think the deciding factor is the cap recapture. There's some serious cap risk there if they don't buy him out.
- BulliesPhan87


I think it's everything. Poor play, cap recapture, relationships with the team, the circus, the term of the contract...

It just didn't work out. Bryz will be a very rich man and maybe Snider will allow his GM to just do his job in the future
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:06 PM ET
Bryz played great at times, but he was far too inconsistent to justify the financial commitment. The guy the get may not be as good, but he also won't be as bug an albatross.

I like Bryz, wish it would have worked out.

The 4th year can reduce the hit, but not by as much as in the past.

- Jsaquella

It isn't so much less money in the last year to reducr the cap hit, although that can be part if it. It's that during negotiations you offer less for additional years. Older players in particular are looking for that securitysince their time to make money Iis coming to an end.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 1:07 PM ET
I think it's everything. Poor play, cap recapture, relationships with the team, the circus, the term of the contract...

It just didn't work out. Bryz will be a very rich man and maybe Snider will allow his GM to just do his job in the future

- Jsaquella

He'd best "let [him] do [his] job!"
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 13 @ 1:07 PM ET
We are a giddy up and go, attack the puck team
No sitting back and protecting the goalie here

- Marc D

Gonna be great if they shrink the goalie pads in coming seasons.
coffee junkie
Joined: 02.25.2007

Jun 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
Not worried about the 4 years, as other have said that's just to bring the cap hit down. But definitely concerned with who we'd sign to replace Bryz. I'd like to look into an older experienced Vet like Nik Backstrom. I feel we could get him for less than Bryz and with a shorter contract.
- flyler

Good god! It better be a more friendly contract!
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 13 @ 1:08 PM ET
It isn't so much less money in the last year to reducr the cap hit, although that can be part if it. It's that during negotiations you offer less for additional years. Older players in particular are looking for that securitysince their time to make money Iis coming to an end.
- coffee junkie


That's a factor, too, for sure. Streit has been pretty durable, out side of the freak shoulder injury that cost him all of the 2010-11 season. He's played every game in 3 of the last 4 years, outside of that one.
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