Sauve has sharply regressed since being hit by a car, whether that had anything to do with it or not. He started playing well in the ECHL after being demoted about halfway through the season.

Definitely wouldn't feel comfortable with him as a number 7.

Andersson or Tommernes would be the top two candidates for a 7/8 spot currently in the system (not including Corrado), with Polasek coming next.

I wouldn't be too surprised if one of them grabs a spot, but I hope Gillis has a cheap veteran option in mind as well—as long as that player's not named Barker or Vandermeer.
- Fosco

Do you think Gillis's experiment days have come to an end? I hope he makes smarter moves this off season and stops the project aquisistions.

What no one has mentioned it leaves a big hole on NYI who now need a sexy Dman . Edler Lu + is seeming more plausable now if Edler is not going to PHI .

Lu Edler Booth Jensen for Nino Bailey Nielsn Rocky D
- VANTEL

no it doesn't actually. Matt Donovan has played extremely well all year in the AHL and many of us were questioning why he didn't get a shot this year. He's going to play bottom pairing minutes this season which slots him right into where Streit left off.

You really need to have some knowledge of a team's situation before you make assumptions.

Everyone has been calling for his head. I don't see him making a move and going after an unproven coach. I think the owner has a lot of say in this and likes Torts. If he fails then Gillis can go to FA and say he is your guy not mine.

I am not a Torts fan but I am not a fan of the players doing the coaching either. This team needs direction.
- VANTEL

The one thing I like about Tort is his direction. You play for me or you don't play. Simple. The guy does wear out his welcome quickly with his style but if you buy into his system games get won. Accountability! Holding every player to a standard is good. One of the best bosses I ever had was an bumhole. He paid well and you knew where you stood. If you didn't work for him you didn't work for him. Simple.

The Canucks D is not overrated, and is much better than TB's.

Let's see how bad Bowness (frank)s up their D this season after what he did to Vans...
- Fosco

Our three best Dmen this year were Garrison Tanev and Hamhuis. None of them strike the fear of God in other teams.

I think Bieksa and Edler had a roller coaster season. Our D is not mean enough .

They haven't signed the UFA yet have they?
- VANTEL

one thing I will say is that Philly is making some very questionable decisions. They're definitely going to have to go the buyout route and Streit doesn't help the soft and squishy D they had last year. The flyers played Bruno Gervais in their top 4 for a good part of the year..that's pathetic.

The one thing I like about Tort is his direction. You play for me or you don't play. Simple. The guy does wear out his welcome quickly with his style but if you buy into his system games get won. Accountability! Holding every player to a standard is good. One of the best bosses I ever had was an bumhole. He paid well and you knew where you stood. If you didn't work for him you didn't work for him. Simple.
- thundachunk

I think Torts coming to the Canucks would be like trying Keenan again, and that was a miserable failure. They need a coach who can squeeze more offense out of the bottom six and develop the kids the Canucks have, not someone who will mess with their heads and make the Sedins block shots. I just don't see the Canucks benefitting with Torts as their head coach.

The Canucks D is not overrated, and is much better than TB's.

Let's see how bad Bowness (frank)s up their D this season after what he did to Vans...
- Fosco

Salo and Ohlund probably did a simultaneous eye roll when they heard Bowness was coming to town.

I think Torts coming to the Canucks would be like trying Keenan again, and that was a miserable failure. They need a coach who can squeeze more offense out of the bottom six and develop the kids the Canucks have, not someone who will mess with their heads and make the Sedins block shots. I just don't see the Canucks benefitting with Torts as their head coach.
- Isles_since_6

I wasn't saying I wanted his services. Imo he is a bad fit but he has his qualities that would benefit a different team. His style does win games even though it makes his service short lived.

Our three best Dmen this year were Garrison Tanev and Hamhuis. None of them strike the fear of God in other teams.

I think Bieksa and Edler had a roller coaster season. Our D is not mean enough .
- VANTEL

Bieksa for Buff

no it doesn't actually. Matt Donovan has played extremely well all year in the AHL and many of us were questioning why he didn't get a shot this year. He's going to play bottom pairing minutes this season which slots him right into where Streit left off.

You really need to have some knowledge of a team's situation before you make assumptions.
- Isles_since_6

So an AHL Dman is the one going to save the Isles? You reallys need to stop acting like an asshat and telling everyone you are a hockey genius .

I see you in here for the last little while spewing your verbal diaherria around You tell me to stop acting like I know everything about the Isles yet I see you in here day after day, day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day, like you know everything about my favourite team.

Piss off

Bieksa for Buff
- thundachunk

Not enough hamburgers in Vancouver to keep Buff happy.

Not enough hamburgers in Vancouver to keep Buff happy.
- VANTEL

Did they close rodeo burger?

Good, I've been busy too so timing will be perfect. I'd like to bring in Messier as an assistant.
- Marwood

Assistant what? Fluffer?

So an AHL Dman is the one going to save the Isles? You reallys need to stop acting like an asshat and telling everyone you are a hockey genius .

I see you in here for the last little while spewing your verbal diaherria around You tell me to stop acting like I know everything about the Isles yet I see you in here day after day, day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day,day after day, like you know everything about my favourite team.

Piss off
- VANTEL

you seem to take it personally. You wouldn't expect a young kid who played in the AHL last year and had a good year to be able to crack a team's roster and contribute as the 5th or 6th defenseman? Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Perhaps when you make assumptions ("the Isles need to fill a big hole now so they need to take all this junk plus edler!") you should research it first, or ask a question so you don't look like a fool. If that bothers you to the point where being corrected triggers a personal attack, maybe you should try acting like an adult and joining the real world, instead of shaking your rattle and crying about it.

I think Torts coming to the Canucks would be like trying Keenan again, and that was a miserable failure. They need a coach who can squeeze more offense out of the bottom six and develop the kids the Canucks have, not someone who will mess with their heads and make the Sedins block shots. I just don't see the Canucks benefitting with Torts as their head coach.
- Isles_since_6

I know. He won a cup with Tampa because he got Lecavalier, Richards, St. Louis, and Modin to block all those shots.

Our three best Dmen this year were Garrison Tanev and Hamhuis. None of them strike the fear of God in other teams.

I think Bieksa and Edler had a roller coaster season. Our D is not mean enough .
- VANTEL

It's strange because this team did so badly when KB went down. Same when Salo was out. Team didn't do so well. Yet I wouldn't say those guys where the heart of the d-corp...

you seem to take it personally. You wouldn't expect a young kid who played in the AHL last year and had a good year to be able to crack a team's roster and contribute as the 5th or 6th defenseman? Seems pretty reasonable to me.

Perhaps when you make assumptions ("the Isles need to fill a big hole now so they need to take all this junk plus edler!") you should research it first, or ask a question so you don't look like a fool. If that bothers you to the point where being corrected triggers a personal attack, maybe you should try acting like an adult and joining the real world, instead of shaking your rattle and crying about it.
- Isles_since_6

Bite me Richard wad

It's strange because this team did so badly when KB went down. Same when Salo was out. Team didn't do so well. Yet I wouldn't say those guys where the heart of the d-corp...
- bloatedmosquito

I think Bieksa brings a lot of emotion and is physical but he also has a lot of brain farts. I do like KB he would be a great 3/4 not a 1/2

Our three best Dmen this year were Garrison Tanev and Hamhuis. None of them strike the fear of God in other teams.

I think Bieksa and Edler had a roller coaster season. Our D is not mean enough .
- VANTEL

Tanev has shown a lot of promise the last few seasons, but he was extremely sheltered and get the least amount of minutes of all the regular D—I think that takes him out of the running...

You can't compare what he did with 17 minutes a night against easier competition to the big minute eaters on D—although I do think he's ready for more responsibility.

Corrado even had more minutes and tougher matchups in his first 5 games as Tanev has had the majority of his career.

Bowness and AV essentially used this season as an extended training-camp/pre-season, and still weren't able to make the right pairings that were blatantly obvious to most fans in a 48 game sample—I don't think you can take much from the mess they made this season...

Tanev has shown a lot of promise the last few seasons, but he was extremely sheltered and get the least amount of minutes of all the regular D—I think that takes him out of the running...

You can't compare what he did with 17 minutes a night against easier competition to the big minute eaters on D—although I do think he's ready for more responsibility.

Corrado even had more minutes and tougher matchups in his first 5 games as Tanev has had the majority of his career.

Bowness and AV essentially used this season as an extended training-camp/pre-season, and still weren't able to make the right pairings that were blatantly obvious to most fans in a 48 game sample—I don't think you can take much from the mess they made this season...
- Fosco

Not disagreeing, but this team needs some meanness . I am not a Torts fan at all but ,I would not mind seeing a hard ass in here ,revolking some of these vets country club pass

BTW Botchford thinks Torts has a very good shot at getting the job.

Not disagreeing, but this team needs some meanness . I am not a Torts fan at all but ,I would not mind seeing a hard ass in here ,revolking some of these vets country club pass

BTW Botchford thinks Torts has a very good shot at getting the job.
- VANTEL

In a bad way.

I think Bieksa brings a lot of emotion and is physical but he also has a lot of brain farts. I do like KB he would be a great 3/4 not a 1/2
- VANTEL

IMO that's what has been missing for so long. Maybe Torts could bring that? He would have to be a short term solution because his message would get tuned out after a while.

I know. He won a cup with Tampa because he got Lecavalier, Richards, St. Louis, and Modin to block all those shots.


- bloatedmosquito

did you see what he did to Gaborik and Richards? The Rangers have had plenty of talent the last few years but the team focuses so much on defense they have difficulty scoring more than 2 goals a game. They're like the Kings but even less entertaining. Terrible hockey.

I'd hate to see the entertaining brand of hockey the Canucks played two years ago destroyed even further. I don't think Torts is your guy, just my 2 cents

Not disagreeing, but this team needs some meanness . I am not a Torts fan at all but ,I would not mind seeing a hard ass in here ,revolking some of these vets country club pass

BTW Botchford thinks Torts has a very good shot at getting the job.
- VANTEL

I never said they didn't need meanness, in fact I would like them to add some, which is why I hope Gillis at least makes an offer to Torres.

I was refuting your claims about the D, both that TB's is as good as Van's, and that Tanev can be legitimately compared to guys who played 5+ more minutes a game against top lines.

Bite me Richard wad
- VANTEL

Two opportunities to respond with some intelligent discussion and two times you've gone to personal and childish insults. If you think that'll bother me you really haven't got any clue. I read that kind of response as "I lack the intelligence to respond with anything meaningful" Yawn.

Fosco disagrees with my opinions quite frequently, but I enjoy those discussions because he can back up his opinion with examples and facts. Big step up over you.