Jamie Benn, #10 and a 2nd.

Dallas and the Avs are now Division rivals, so that is the Smallest offer I would accept.
- Meeqsb

wont happen unless stars trade obtain the 2nd or 3rd overall pick first. You dont give up the 1st unless you have a consolation prize in the 2nd or 3rd when all 3 are considered bonafide superstars in the making

In my best guess, the Avalanche are going to trade their #1 pick Seth Jones to the Buffalo Sabres for goaltender Ryan Miller+another sabre roster player.
- bbatch93

Avs are not interested in a goalie acquisition either, they will roll the dice with Varly again. Having his idol as his coach and finally having a goalie coach for the basically the first time in the franchises history. His game will improve, and Giggy is going to be a very good back up for the same reasons as well.

They for sure heck wont be trading it off for a 33 year old goalie one year removed from UFA.

No way if im dallas do I give up Benn. I wouldn't give up Benn straight up for #1. That being said if the avs can get something like what describing I do it allllll freaking day.
- allen_gamble

No Benn, no #1. There is no reason for the Avs to trade the pick at all, we are elaborating on the premise that Dallas is the one trying to get the pick and if I am the Avs GM then the deal would have to start with Benn or I just don't see it being worth it.

wont happen unless stars trade obtain the 2nd or 3rd overall pick first. You dont give up the 1st unless you have a consolation prize in the 2nd or 3rd when all 3 are considered bonafide superstars in the making
- DDM-Coga

It was more so where I would start the talks

I think if the sabres trade Vanek and or Miller at the draft they will probably get a late first rounder for each ++. I'm thinking it will be someone who made the playoffs and needs a little help. Like Pitt or Vancouver. If I'm Buffalo I don't think they should give up picks to move up unless it's reasonable, they should add picks if anything with how deep the draft is. They could possibly have 4 1sts and 4 2nds in this years draft.

I think if the sabres trade Vanek and or Miller at the draft they will probably get a late first rounder for each ++. I'm thinking it will be someone who made the playoffs and needs a little help. Like Pitt or Vancouver. If I'm Buffalo I don't think they should give up picks to move up unless it's reasonable, they should add picks if anything with how deep the draft is.
- devereau

I think they are both good players that would be a good fit on a number of contending teams, however a deal would most likely need to address some cap issues as well (more so in Vaneks situation).

Miller - NYI, CHI(although unlikely now), CBJ (if bob goes south), MIN, EDM, NJ, Philly, PIT, STL would all be possible trading partners for Miller. It will be interesting to see how it pans out and what you can get for him.

Vanek- will be a little tougher because of his salary but I could see a few teams looking for offense interested who could also send some salary back the other way, Especially Ott.

Why does every blog on this site end in Sabers fans trying to come up with the most ridiculous trade proposals? Sorry Buffalo fans, your passion is inspirational, but your team has no real chips to play for any chance of landing a franchise player until you pay your dues like every other team and hit rock bottom....Aim for failure the next few years and try and bag McDavid when he's old enough, otherwise enjoy being an average at best teams for the next decade.
- sudburyboy

Miller straight- up for package of Nuge, Yak and Eberele, plus your 1st...don't delay else we increase the price to include Schultz.

And we have been average for decades already, give us a break...show some love.

And Vanek for Chara, Tuka, and Marchant, (Marchant so I can step on his throat)

Miller straight- up for package of Nuge, Yak and Eberele, plus your 1st...don't delay else we increase the price to include Schultz.

And we have been average for decades already, give us a break...show some love.

And Vanek for Chara, Tuka, and Marchant, (Marchant so I can step on his throat)
- IonSabres

Just why

I think if the sabres trade Vanek and or Miller at the draft they will probably get a late first rounder for each ++. I'm thinking it will be someone who made the playoffs and needs a little help. Like Pitt or Vancouver. If I'm Buffalo I don't think they should give up picks to move up unless it's reasonable, they should add picks if anything with how deep the draft is. They could possibly have 4 1sts and 4 2nds in this years draft.
- devereau

What the ???? Vancouver has schnieder and Lu, both are better than miller. Not to mention no cap space I don't see how vaneks monster contract would fit either.

No Benn, no #1. There is no reason for the Avs to trade the pick at all, we are elaborating on the premise that Dallas is the one trying to get the pick and if I am the Avs GM then the deal would have to start with Benn or I just don't see it being worth it.
- Meeqsb

I don't see how anymore than benn is worth the #1 pick. Benn is 22, has a long term contract and a good cap hit, at #1 you take jones and he could turn in to Bouwmester. #1 is no lock to turn out. Like I said if Dallas was willing to move Benn plus other assets and im the Avs I take the deal and run away laughing.

I don't see how anymore than benn is worth the #1 pick. Benn is 22, has a long term contract and a good cap hit, at #1 you take jones and he could turn in to Bouwmester. #1 is no lock to turn out. Like I said if Dallas was willing to move Benn plus other assets and im the Avs I take the deal and run away laughing.
- allen_gamble

You have to assume that with the #1 pick you are getting that years Superstar. The top 3 picks every year are usually the best players of the future like Stamkos, Toews, Doughty, Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Tavares, Nash, Kovalchuk.

Benn is an amazing player, but a #1 overall is worth more.

If you are trading for a superstar player from a team within your division, it will take a major overpayment because of the type of player you are trading for.

I don't see how anymore than benn is worth the #1 pick. Benn is 22, has a long term contract and a good cap hit, at #1 you take jones and he could turn in to Bouwmester. #1 is no lock to turn out. Like I said if Dallas was willing to move Benn plus other assets and im the Avs I take the deal and run away laughing.
- allen_gamble

If you had a poll of people choosing between having Benn or Mckinnon on your team, Benn would be crushed, and Jones is a player you would consider taking before Mckinnon.

Stars would be looking at Jack Campbell, a roster player (Cody Eakin) and their first this year and next to grab the number one overall spot.

You have to assume that with the #1 pick you are getting that years Superstar. The top 3 picks every year are usually the best players of the future like Stamkos, Toews, Doughty, Ovechkin, Malkin, Crosby, Tavares, Nash, Kovalchuk.

Benn is an amazing player, but a #1 overall is worth more.

If you are trading for a superstar player from a team within your division, it will take a major overpayment because of the type of player you are trading for.
- Meeqsb

Some of those players weren't taken first is my point. Benn is better than both doughty and nash. Toews and Malkin both did not go first. You left off players like Johnson and fluery too.

No way Dallas trades Benn but like I said if they do and Avs can get him plus I laugh and take the deal.

If you had a poll of people choosing between having Benn or Mckinnon on your team, Benn would be crushed, and Jones is a player you would consider taking before Mckinnon.
- Meeqsb

A poll of who fans or GMs?

I take Benn over Mckinnon cus he is playing already and is locked up at a good price.

Mckinnon could be a bust. Will he I HIGHLY doubt it. But he could be the next Gilbert Brule.

Some of those players weren't taken first is my point. Benn is better than both doughty and nash. Toews and Malkin both did not go first. You left off players like Johnson and fluery too.

No way Dallas trades Benn but like I said if they do and Avs can get him plus I laugh and take the deal.
- allen_gamble

I agree! Benn is almost a PPG player who has not hit his prime yet! No doubt whoever is selected 1-2 this year will be great but Benn right now is a sure bet! If Colorado could obtain Benn plus Dallas First for the First overall I jump all over it! It instantly makes Colorado a Division Champ and a contender IMO

Parenteau - Duchene - Benn
Landeskog - Stastny - Hejduk
McGinn - O'Reilly - Downie
Jones - Mitchell - Kobasew/McCleod

That is a very impressive forward group!

With goligoski and chiasson along with morrow now in the system the Stars should be gunning for MacKinnon at #1, not Seth Jones. I don't know where the hype comes from for Popeye, a guy who averaged less than 8 pts a game over his career in the NBA.

Some of those players weren't taken first is my point. Benn is better than both doughty and nash. Toews and Malkin both did not go first. You left off players like Johnson and fluery too.

No way Dallas trades Benn but like I said if they do and Avs can get him plus I laugh and take the deal.
- allen_gamble

I was just listing players in the top 3 overall picks like I said, because anyone of the top 3 could have been chosen, but the holder of the #1 pick has the option to take whomever they want so it doesn't matter.

You can't say Benn is a better player than Nash (Nash has 2 40+ goal seasons and 5 30 goal seasons) while benn's career highs are 26 goals and 63 points. You also can't say he is better than doughty, apples and oranges.

I think you are over valuing him a bit.

A poll of who fans or GMs?

I take Benn over Mckinnon cus he is playing already and is locked up at a good price.

Mckinnon could be a bust. Will he I HIGHLY doubt it. But he could be the next Gilbert Brule.
- allen_gamble

Now you are just being silly

Some of those players weren't taken first is my point. Benn is better than both doughty and nash. Toews and Malkin both did not go first. You left off players like Johnson and fluery too.

No way Dallas trades Benn but like I said if they do and Avs can get him plus I laugh and take the deal.
- allen_gamble

Doughty gets a lot of crap because he adapted his game to a more defensive role than offensive, which gave him headlines, and Malkin went #2 because Ovechkin went #1...any other draft besides Ovi and Sid in the last 10+ years and Malkin goes #1.

I agree! Benn is almost a PPG player who has not hit his prime yet! No doubt whoever is selected 1-2 this year will be great but Benn right now is a sure bet! If Colorado could obtain Benn plus Dallas First for the First overall I jump all over it! It instantly makes Colorado a Division Champ and a contender IMO

Parenteau - Duchene - Benn
Landeskog - Stastny - Hejduk
McGinn - O'Reilly - Downie
Jones - Mitchell - Kobasew/McCleod

That is a very impressive forward group!
- steve362

Just some notes to throw out there:

-Avs problem is they have possibly the worst Dcore in the league
- Hejduk is going to retire
- Kobasew most likely wont be resigned

However I do think a deal of the 10th + Benn would be something to work around

I was just listing players in the top 3 overall picks like I said, because anyone of the top 3 could have been chosen, but the holder of the #1 pick has the option to take whomever they want so it doesn't matter.

You can't say Benn is a better player than Nash (Nash has 2 40+ goal seasons and 5 30 goal seasons) while benn's career highs are 26 goals and 63 points. You also can't say he is better than doughty, apples and oranges.

I think you are over valuing him a bit.
- Meeqsb

Not over valuing anyone. I take Benn over Nash all day. Nash has also been in the league 10 years or so. so you cant have 5 30 goal seasons if you haven't even palyed 5 seasons. You fail to mention the players that didn't work out in the top 3. Benn you can build your team around, Nash has proven you cant and that he cant step up in the playoffs either. Your overvaluing the #1 pick. It comes down to who is there and who is making the pick. I don't think there is a better power forward in the league right now than Benn, he also has been playing out of position.

For one I take mac over jones all day also.

Stars would be looking at Jack Campbell, a roster player (Cody Eakin) and their first this year and next to grab the number one overall spot.
- steve362

And like, five other big pieces if those are the guys included in that deal.

Just some notes to throw out there:

-Avs problem is they have possibly the worst Dcore in the league
- Hejduk is going to retire
- Kobasew most likely wont be resigned

However I do think a deal of the 10th + Benn would be something to work around
- Meeqsb

My exact point. If Avs can get that offer and they don't take it there stupid.

Just some notes to throw out there:

-Avs problem is they have possibly the worst Dcore in the league
- Hejduk is going to retire
- Kobasew most likely wont be resigned

However I do think a deal of the 10th + Benn would be something to work around
- Meeqsb

Well put! I don't follow the Avs very much but I was going by their roster from last season! Their D is a work in progross, having Downie back and Healthy will be a big boost for the forward group and you gotta think that Duncan Seimans will get a shot at the big club next season after a good junior campaign, the kid is 6'3 210 already at 19 years old! (20 by the start of the season)