Dude, c'mon.

I know PK is no Scott Stevens, but you have to admit he's much better than Franson in all-round situations.

Simply put: Franson can't be trusted with big minutes. At least not yet.
- Atomic Wedgie

um... neither could PK the last 3 years before his current contract. And he's still the 5th or 6th option for the PK.

Need to ask though - what are we arguing about here? what do you think he should get? Given the season he just had, anything under $2M is a slap in the face.

Franson and Josi aren't in the same wheelhouse. Nonis knows this... Franson knows this.

Josi was and will remain top pairing for Nashville.

Franson was very well isolated and excelled in the limited role he was given. When the role was expanded, he struggled.

2-3 yrs, $3M per is good for both sides
- Big_Lightnin

Franson has a cannon with a quick release...he will fetch much more than $3m per I believe...I could be wrong...but he got squeezed out by Wilson and the Leafs should have had him playing all of 2011-2012 and he would have been even more valuable in 2012-2013. They will sign him to 5 yearrs...and they should, I have always liked his play..sure he can get caught flat footed the odd time...but who doesn't with the speed of the league.

Franson has a cannon with a quick release...he will fetch much more than $3m per I believe...I could be wrong...but he got squeezed out by Wilson and the Leafs should have had him playing all of 2011-2012 and he would have been even more valuable in 2012-2013. They will sign him to 5 yearrs...and they should, I have always liked his play..sure he can get caught flat footed the odd time...but who doesn't with the speed of the league.
- Garnie

and now we have the other end of the spectrum

If they sign him to "much more than $3M per" for 5 years, I (frank)ing quit

Scrivens+Franson+21st overall for 7th overall+Nick Shultz

Talk to my union rep.

I don't need to answer your questions.

I won't pee in that cup.
- Atomic Wedgie

then they'll draw blood.



on a side note:
your avatar make me sad as I had to put down my golden retriever of 14 years

No, I don't trust a player that spells Tony with an I,
- LeafMan

And there are no players in the HHOF with a hyphenated name - either first or last.

So we aren't taking any of those losers.

Scrivens+Franson+21st overall for 7th overall+Nick Shultz
- Ihatebrianburke

Twice.

Or how about 3 times. Can we make this trade 3 times?

um... neither could PK the last 3 years before his current contract. And he's still the 5th or 6th option for the PK.

Need to ask though - what are we arguing about here? what do you think he should get? Given the season he just had, anything under $2M is a slap in the face.
- Big_Lightnin

He will take 2 million and a slap in the face.

You see kids back in my day we had to walk 10 miles uphill both ways to a farm to pick cherries for a dollar and god dammit we were told to and we liked it.

What the hell are we talking about again?

Gardiner?
- UsernameUnknown

Gardiner what? Better than Franson...ummmmm....NO!!!!

and now we have the other end of the spectrum

If they sign him to "much more than $3M per" for 5 years, I (frank)ing quit
- Big_Lightnin

Not sure what you are quitting..but I think he will get more than $3m.

He is a beast on the pp and any team in the league will scoop him I think...

Gardner and scrivens for 7th pick, klefbomb and a prospect.

um... neither could PK the last 3 years before his current contract. And he's still the 5th or 6th option for the PK.

Need to ask though - what are we arguing about here? what do you think he should get? Given the season he just had, anything under $2M is a slap in the face.
- Big_Lightnin

Just killing time?

$2 milly is too little.

$3 milly is too much, unless he wants to start giving up UFA years.

Can we agree on that?

then they'll draw blood.



on a side note:
your avatar make me sad as I had to put down my golden retriever of 14 years
- dmnted

That sucks...I gotta a pug that sheds all over my house...he's only 8 or 9...

You want him???

Scrivens + Liles + 21st pick to the oil
7th + 4th rounds picks to the leafs.
- dmnted

I might be wrong, but I don't think this is fair.

Gardiner?
- UsernameUnknown

Hey I like Gardiner alot, but Gardiner played some of his best hockey alongside Franson in those last 3 gp. When I was arguing with HH about Gardiner's worth, Gardiner proved to be the 2nd most effective d-man in terms of numbers in the playoffs, but Franson was awesome with whoever he played with in those 3 games. Telling you it was as if a light bulb went off for Franson in that series and he figured poop out. Sorry, last 4 games:

Mon 5/13

@
BOS

L 4-5 (OT) 2 0 2 -2 0 3 66.7 1 0 0 0 0 27:31 13:46
Sun 5/12

vs
BOS

W 2-1 0 1 1 1 0 1 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 19:55 19:55
Fri 5/10

@
BOS

W 2-1 0 0 0 1 0 1 0.0 0 0 0 0 0 22:50 0:00
Wed 5/8

vs
BOS

L 3-4 (OT) 1 0 1 3 0 2 50.0 0 0 0 0 0 28:14 28:14

then they'll draw blood.



on a side note:
your avatar make me sad as I had to put down my golden retriever of 14 years
- dmnted

Sorry, bro.

I think I'm gaining weight, as now I'm the one who finishes the kids' table scraps.

Just killing time?

$2 milly is too little.

$3 milly is too much, unless he wants to start giving up UFA years.

Can we agree on that?
- Atomic Wedgie

I was referring to the dollar amount.

Ya that's were I am. And ya, Had a feeling we were essentially on the same page.

I said eary on $3M was the MAX he should get, and that was in response to Augello suggesting the $4M Josi got was a comparable for Franson.

Anything under $3M for 2-3 years I'm quite happy with.

Not sure what you are quitting..but I think he will get more than $3m.

He is a beast on the pp and any team in the league will scoop him I think...
- Garnie

He's RFA, not UFA.

If he was UFA, heck yes, he'd get over $3 million.

Scrivens+Franson+21st overall for 7th overall+Nick Shultz
- Ihatebrianburke

Nononononononononoooooooo

I might be wrong, but I don't think this is fair.
- Big_Lightnin

for who?

Gardner and scrivens for 7th pick, klefbomb and a prospect.
- Snagglepuss

NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO!!!!!!!!

Hey I like Gardiner alot, but Gardiner played some of his best hockey alongside Franson in those last 3 gp. When I was arguing with HH about Gardiner's worth, Gardiner proved to be the 2nd most effective d-man in terms of numbers in the playoffs, but Franson was awesome with whoever he played with in those 3 games. Telling you it was as if a light bulb went off for Franson in that series and he figured poop out.
- mykokes

Fair enough. Do you think that will be are 2nd pair next season?
It makes sense to me.

And there are no players in the HHOF with a hyphenated name - either first or last.

So we aren't taking any of those losers.
- Atomic Wedgie

Rajala's name isn't hyphenated

Gardner and scrivens for 7th pick, klefbomb and a prospect.
- Snagglepuss

quit teasing, it's not nice

That sucks...I gotta a pug that sheds all over my house...he's only 8 or 9...

You want him???
- Garnie

we adopted a cat before we had to do the deed done but my son wants another dog. just can't do it right now.