hmmm...

Let's take a look at the numbers.

Kessel's first season, 29 points in 70 games, 11 goals.
Gallagher's first season, 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.
- Pecafan Fan

See guys, that's factual evidence.

Page 19, still waiting on factual evidence about Kessel's defensive play.

hmmm...

Let's take a look at the numbers.

Kessel's first season, 29 points in 70 games, 11 goals.
Gallagher's first season, 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.
- Pecafan Fan

Do you make the trade if its offered to you. yes or no. Kessel for Gallagher straight up?

hmmm...

Let's take a look at the numbers.

Kessel's first season, 29 points in 70 games, 11 goals.
Gallagher's first season, 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.
- Pecafan Fan

what were the ages of the players in year 1?

is this a leafs thread?
- senstroll

Change of pace today

Do you make the trade if its offered to you. yes or no. Kessel for Gallagher straight up?
- dragus84

No, habs don't have the cap space.

Do you make the trade if its offered to you. yes or no. Kessel for Gallagher straight up?
- dragus84

If the habs are in a position to "win now", I make the trade. If it's "win in 5 years" like it currently is, then no.

what were the ages of the players in year 1?
- senstroll

I think Gallgher was 20 this season.

Edit: I think Kessel was 18 at the time?

what were the ages of the players in year 1?
- senstroll

Gallagher was 20. how much younger could Kessel have been? 14? 15?

If the habs are in a position to "win now", I make the trade. If it's "win in 5 years" like it currently is, then no.
- Pecafan Fan

you guys are wild man. that's a joke

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you know whos numbers those are in his first season?

Datsyuk...

edit: I can't believe I'm engaged in a conversation right now where Kessel's value is being debated right up there with Gallagher

Gallagher was 20. how much younger could Kessel have been? 14? 15?
- DoubleDown

Kessel, 5th overall. Gallagher, 5th round pick.

hmmm...

Let's take a look at the numbers.

Kessel's first season, 29 points in 70 games, 11 goals.
Gallagher's first season, 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.
- Pecafan Fan

Kessel Draft year 29 points
Gallagher draft year. Still in Junior

Kessel second year. 37 points.
Gallagher...still in junior.

Kessel third year. 36 goals. 60 points.
Gallagher 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.

you guys are wild man. that's a joke

70 11 24 35 4

you know whos numbers those are in his first season?

Datsyuk...

edit: I can't believe I'm engaged in a conversation right now where Kessel's value is being debated right up there with Gallagher
- dragus84

Numbers don't lie...

you guys are wild man. that's a joke

70 11 24 35 4

you know whos numbers those are in his first season?

Datsyuk...
- dragus84

Quick, post every star player's stats in his 1st year to prove your point.

Kessel Draft year 29 points
Gallagher draft year. Still in Junior

Kessel second year. 37 points.
Gallagher...still in junior.

Kessel third year. 36 goals. 60 points.
Gallagher 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.
- yemrots

Boum

Kessel Draft year 29 points
Gallagher draft year. Still in Junior

Kessel second year. 37 points.
Gallagher...still in junior.

Kessel third year. 36 goals. 60 points.
Gallagher 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.
- yemrots

I don't know why, but you're wrong.

you guys are wild man. that's a joke

70 11 24 35 4

you know whos numbers those are in his first season?

Datsyuk...
- dragus84

I'm saying there are other factors to consider in a trade.

If you want to talk player for player swap with no implications at all, be it cap space, where the team is etc, then yes you take Kessel now over Gallagher now.

Kessel Draft year 29 points
Gallagher draft year. Still in Junior

Kessel second year. 37 points.
Gallagher...still in junior.

Kessel third year. 36 goals. 60 points.
Gallagher 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.
- yemrots

All Savard.

Kessel Draft year 29 points
Gallagher draft year. Still in Junior

Kessel second year. 37 points.
Gallagher...still in junior.

Kessel third year. 36 goals. 60 points.
Gallagher 28 points in 44 games, 15 goals.
- yemrots

those aren't real facts though, don't be silly

If the habs are in a position to "win now", I make the trade. If it's "win in 5 years" like it currently is, then no.
- Pecafan Fan

agree, although in absolutely no reality would i swap Galchenyuk for Kessel.

I think Gallgher was 20 this season.
- Pecafan Fan

so the real comparison is

Kessel year 1 NHL
Kessel year 2 NHL
Kessel year 3 NHL

Gallagher year 1 WHL
Gallagher year 2 WHL
Gallagher year 3 NHL

Kessel, 5th overall. Gallagher, 5th round pick.
- Pecafan Fan

This doesn't help your case really.

I like Gallagher a lot actually. However I don't see him as ever being a top 10 scorer in the league. Do you?

Galchenyuk...yes I could see that.

Funny how the Habs take Price with their 5th overall pick, and the Leafs get a better goalie in Reimer. .923 sv% this playoffs vs .894.

This doesn't help your case really.

I like Gallagher a lot actually. However I don't see him as ever being a top 10 scorer in the league. Do you?

Galchenyuk...yes I could see that.
- yemrots

Probably not.

Funny how the Habs take Price with their 5th overall pick, and the Leafs get a better goalie in Reimer. .923 sv% this playoffs vs .894.
- Dirte

Price sucks.

Quick, post every star player's stats in his 1st year to prove your point.
- DrRecchi

quick, post something that you think is witty but isn't, and has no bearing on the conversation.