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kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
shhh ive been a fan forever, im just expression my opinion. u hate on almost everything anyone on here says that doesn't make u a better fan. ive been reading the blogs and comments for awhile now. something to think about say I said trade hemsky 3 years ago for a person who many not get 80pts in the regular season but also wasn't invisible come playoff time u would have said screw off troll. except I would have been right. out of the young guns eberle has the lest heart followed closely behind is Shultz. hall yakupov nuge untouchables
- time2produce


The only reason Hemsky disappears in the playoffs is because the Oilers haven't been there in 7 years. Outside his rookie season Hemmer has been in the playoffs once, during the fluke cup run and was solid throughout.
Oilfan19
Edmonton Oilers
Location: "Hodgson is a future #1C" - hanleyaj, AB
Joined: 02.16.2012

Jun 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
the thing that bothers me after watching the playoffs this year is size matters and the oilers lack it big time with there young guns except maybe hall but he never hits. I think the oilers should try 2 move eberle for size or to strengthen the D. out of the young guns he is the one to trade. Edmonton needs b@lls to make big trades instead of holding on2 players cause they had one good year aka hemsky horcoff pisani. I know eberle wil b good but u got 2 give to get. ps hemsky would have got us a 1st 2years ago but now a 3rd is pushing it. he would have been better without the injury and if he had heart but then he would b a different player. letting go is hard but sometimes whats in the best interest for the team is better, lets not wait til eberles worth a 3rd rounder.
- time2produce

Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jun 11 @ 12:04 PM ET
Go back over the past 4 years and tell me how many picks outside of the 1st round are in the NHL and are of significance.

Maybe 5-6 guys total.

Doesn't mean the oil have done any better or worse than any other team drafting.

- Iggysbff


Apparently everybody's sarcasm detectors are broken
Reveen
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Who's your daddy ?, BC
Joined: 05.25.2011

Jun 11 @ 12:05 PM ET
Klefbom
Marincin
Gernat
Musil
Pitlick
Tyrvainen
Zharkov
Ewanyk
Rajala
Khaira
Moroz
Davidson

- kingbrehm


pretty much the point I was trying to make
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:07 PM ET
Nonsense, Zharkov should be pushing for RNH's job by now. Total failed drafting by the Oilers.
- kingbrehm

Seriously? RNH should he pushing for RNH's job. Standard route to nhl should he hack to junior, a year in AHL. , a year of call ups, then full time NHL. That is if you are developing well.
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 11 @ 12:14 PM ET
Seriously? RNH should he pushing for RNH's job. Standard route to nhl should he hack to junior, a year in AHL. , a year of call ups, then full time NHL. That is if you are developing well.
- Jeropotato


Sarcasm directed towards those claiming Oilers drafting has been bad over the past 4 or 5 years like they are expecting a 3rd or 4th round pick to explode onto the NHL scene the year after being drafted. Those expectations are not reasonable.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:34 PM ET
Sarcasm directed towards those claiming Oilers drafting has been bad over the past 4 or 5 years like they are expecting a 3rd or 4th round pick to explode onto the NHL scene the year after being drafted. Those expectations are not reasonable.
- kingbrehm



Ah..very good my friend. The problem with sarcasm on this thread is that it can be hard detect souurounded by the multitude of retarded comments.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 11 @ 12:34 PM ET
The only reason Hemsky disappears in the playoffs is because the Oilers haven't been there in 7 years. Outside his rookie season Hemmer has been in the playoffs once, during the fluke cup run and was solid throughout.
- kingbrehm



Hemsky was a major part of the reason the oilers have not seen playoffs in 7 years... Injuries and otherwise- which is why his timecard is about to expire...
time2produce
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:37 PM ET
Dude I've been saying yo trade Hemsky for the past 4 years.

And if someone wants an untouchable, they can have them...for a massive overpay.

- Iggysbff

agreed, I like eberle but has the least heart and easiest to replace that's why I said him out of any other young gun but if a deal is to b made im for it, sick of watching the oilers games til xmas then waiting for the draft, 7 years is enough that's why ive been saying a coach with NHL experience is key rather than someone whos adjusting to the game an finds his stride around the 35game mark and the record is 13 20 2
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:42 PM ET
Klefbom
Marincin
Gernat
Musil
Pitlick
Tyrvainen
Zharkov
Ewanyk
Rajala
Khaira
Moroz
Davidson

- kingbrehm


I bet this guy turns out to be the best forward of the bunch.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:43 PM ET
agreed, I like eberle but has the least heart and easiest to replace that's why I said him out of any other young gun but if a deal is to b made im for it, sick of watching the oilers games til xmas then waiting for the draft, 7 years is enough that's why ive been saying a coach with NHL experience is key rather than someone whos adjusting to the game an finds his stride around the 35game mark and the record is 13 20 2
- time2produce


I question that comment.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 11 @ 12:44 PM ET
agreed, I like eberle but has the least heart and easiest to replace that's why I said him out of any other young gun but if a deal is to b made im for it, sick of watching the oilers games til xmas then waiting for the draft, 7 years is enough that's why ive been saying a coach with NHL experience is key rather than someone whos adjusting to the game an finds his stride around the 35game mark and the record is 13 20 2
- time2produce



The best clutch scorer, 2nd most natural sniper that also possesses the most hockey smarts and vision on this team- is easy to replace??? 2 seasons ago he EASILY led this team in pts- this last season he played with a broken (frank)ing hand... If ur wanting to trade Eberle it better be a gross overpayment...
Snagglepuss
Joined: 08.07.2012

Jun 11 @ 12:45 PM ET
Jordan eberle, 1st round pick in 13,14, Oscar klefbomb for malkin and douglas Murray. Thoughts?
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:47 PM ET
Gardiner, Holzer, Colborne, Ashton and pick #21 for Eberle and Linus the DirtBag. is that Fair???
- Jimmy_wiener


The deal is fair but I think if the oil trade eberle they want more of a home run
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 11 @ 12:47 PM ET
1. Ranger Danger
There's this guy called Paul Ranger who played defense for the Marlies last season and put up some interesting numbers. Apparently, he's a free agent or something, and apparently, he and new Oilers Head Coach Dallas Eakins liked each other. Rumor has him being signed by the Oilers. People need to relax: This is a 6/7 defenseman, and we got lots of those. At best he'd be an upgraded Corey Potter.


Paul Ranger is better than half of the defensemen the Oilers have. He'd probably play in the top 4 with Petry, moving Smid with J. Schultz. It'd be an excellent move, honestly, as it would allow N. Schultz to anchor a bottom pairing with Belov or Potter.

And before someone says "Well then why was he in the AHL", he chose to be in the AHL. The guy had NHL offers last year to return after retiring to coach for a while. He was a beast when he was an NHL regular and honestly looked just as good for the Marlies this year. If he's not in the NHL this season, it's because he doesn't want to be, again.

3. The Offering
Don't be surprised if the Oilers give up a late draft pick or two in an effort to make a Dallas-like signing of a player about to go UFA. Tyler Bozak is an obvious one, as he's not going to re-sign with the Leafs. Bozak would be candy on the Oilers third line, and after MacT finishes clearing out the roster stink he'll have plenty of cap room to work with.


Tyler Bozak is coming nowhere near Edmonton if he's going to be a "Third line Center". Guy is a top six center without question.

4. Weber? Ummm...No
I got bored and went to CapGeek. I must be reading this wrong, because what I'm seeing makes absolutely no sense. So the Preds owe Shea Weber over the next six seasons $68mil in signing bonus and $80mil in contract? $148mil over the next six years? That's ridiculous. The entire franchise isn't worth that much. They wouldn't be able to deal him even if they wanted to. Sick jerks who signed him to that deal. No wonder there was a lockout.


I think you are reading that wrong? Hahahhaha

5. Trade for a Defenseman?
I get suggestions all the time that the Oilers should deal this off-season for a top pairing defenseman. Really? Is that even possible?

Who would be available? Maybe Marc Staal. At least the Oilers wouldn't need to give up a kidney to get him. I hear Keith Yandle's name, but that would be something like Sam Gagner plus the Oilers 7th overall (1st round) pick this summer. Yuck. And then there's options like Jack Johnson. Sorry, I know that's a swear word for many of you.


You essentially have a better version of Yandle in Schultz. Marc Staal is the kind of dman you need, but he is by no means available.

7. Goalie!
I see a few options here. Luongo to the Oilers after a buyout is not impossible. Jonas Hiller from Anaheim is possible, but they'll want a decent asset back for him. Maybe one of the goalies from Washington? Hey, look at what Columbus pulled off last season with Bobrovsky. Any way you slice it, the Oilers need to add a goalie this season, regardless if he's a starter-level or back-up.


Anton Khudobin

8. Too Much Hartikainen
Many people are acting happy and fine that Teemu Hartikainen has bolted from the Oilers and has signed in the KHL. I see it as a warning sign. The Oilers as an organization are terrible with their prospects. Many don't turn out the way they should, and some bolt in frustration. Hartikainen left most likely because he couldn't see how he fit into the team's future. That sort of cloudiness occurred because the Oilers couldn't make up their mind with him last season. Blame the prospects all you want...look at the Oilers record with prospects over the last seven seasons and ask yourself if it's a coincidence, or if maybe, perhaps, the team needs to start thinking about the way they treat prospects.


Or it could be the fact that you guys just fired ANOTHER coach, and for a young player trying to make an impression it's like starting all over again?

9. Draft Daze
Lots of talk about Sean Monahan dropping and perhaps being available at #7. Good.

People are sending notes to me suggesting the Oilers try to move up in the draft. Easier said than done. In years when there isn't clarity after the first couple of picks, maybe. This year? There's too many good prospects. Teams are all going to be offering to move up. There could be several major deals at the draft.


What talk? Him dropping is based off what? The kid hasn't been playing hockey for awhile now. What exactly has changed in the past two weeks since you've talked about him in your last 9 blogs?
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 11 @ 12:49 PM ET
Ah..very good my friend. The problem with sarcasm on this thread is that it can be hard detect souurounded by the multitude of retarded comments.
- Jeropotato


I have noticed the retardation level steadily increasing lately.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:51 PM ET
Jordan eberle, 1st round pick in 13,14, Oscar klefbomb for malkin and douglas Murray. Thoughts?
- Snagglepuss


Murray sucks. Throw in something else.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:55 PM ET
Paul Ranger is better than half of the defensemen the Oilers have. He'd probably play in the top 4 with Petry, moving Smid with J. Schultz. It'd be an excellent move, honestly, as it would allow N. Schultz to anchor a bottom pairing with Belov or Potter.

And before someone says "Well then why was he in the AHL", he chose to be in the AHL. The guy had NHL offers last year to return after retiring to coach for a while. He was a beast when he was an NHL regular and honestly looked just as good for the Marlies this year. If he's not in the NHL this season, it's because he doesn't want to be, again.



Tyler Bozak is coming nowhere near Edmonton if he's going to be a "Third line Center". Guy is a top six center without question.



I think you are reading that wrong? Hahahhaha



You essentially have a better version of Yandle in Schultz. Marc Staal is the kind of dman you need, but he is by no means available.



Anton Khudobin



Or it could be the fact that you guys just fired ANOTHER coach, and for a young player trying to make an impression it's like starting all over again?



What talk? Him dropping is based off what? The kid hasn't been playing hockey for awhile now. What exactly has changed in the past two weeks since you've talked about him in your last 9 blogs?

- mochoson


You are right on most things except Bozak being a legit top 6 C. I think he plays there for lack of a better option in TO. He has the physical attributes Gagner lacks,but not the talent.
Jeropotato
Season Ticket Holder
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 01.03.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:56 PM ET
I have noticed the retardation level steadily increasing lately.
- kingbrehm


And there is apparently no maximun capacity for it either.
saskoil21
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.09.2009

Jun 11 @ 12:57 PM ET
Jordan eberle, 1st round pick in 13,14, Oscar klefbomb for malkin and douglas Murray. Thoughts?
- Snagglepuss


Yeah we would have to do it as we do not have a 1C yet
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 11 @ 12:58 PM ET
Jordan eberle, 1st round pick in 13,14, Oscar klefbomb for malkin and douglas Murray. Thoughts?
- Snagglepuss


Oil fans might want more but this trade is exactly the kinda deal I could see MacT going for. You can still deal gagner for something to help . With Malkin as your 1C you let the nuge play easier minutes. Both first rounders would be in the 20's in weaker drafts .... Maybe swap Murray for another d man but still the deals not bad
The-O-G
Calgary Flames
Joined: 11.29.2011

Jun 11 @ 12:58 PM ET
We're all entitled to having an opinion and its sad that u think anyone who has a different opinion then u doesnt know poop. I think I know that Feaster almost gave away a few picks for nothing when trying to offer sheet O'Rielly, i know he wasted a pick on Janikowski, I know he waited too long too move Iginla and Kipper, I know he got fk all in return for Regehr, I know he blew a poop load of wasted money on Hudler and Wideman. I can go on if you like?
- coolehmon41


For arguments sake (and I'm not even a fan of Feaster):

1. The O'Reilly thing was a fiasco, but it wasn't all Feasters fault. The entire Flames management, ownership, O'Reilly's agent, the league, everyone involved didn't know about that rule. That being said, still a big mistake.

2. The "wasted" Jankowski pick. The jury is still out on this one, and we all know he was super young for the draft year. Sure it was off the board, but that being said, i'm not writing him off just yet. Take a look here: http://www.thehockeynews....erank-2012-NHL-draft.html Maybe not so bad after all? Not to mention we traded down and drafted Seiloff in the second round. Tough, hard-hitting d-man who was a member of the USA world junior gold medal team. I know a team up north that could use a guy like him.

3. Iggy & Kipper: Again, this was not purely Jay Feaster's decision. FULL NMC's and Ownership really restricted what he could do. It appears now that trading kipper was never really an option, and Jarome held all the cards with his deal. In my opinion Jarome did not want to leave last year, or even at the start of this year. Definitely ownership did not want to trade him last year.

4. Regher trade: Regher is old, slow and beat up. Feaster did what he could, not to mention he got rid of Kotalik's HORRID contract in that deal which is a miracle in itself. He probably didn't win that trade but it was pretty even IMO. Butler is a decent 4-5 dman and is extremely cheap. If the Flames were to move him I think they could get a fair amount for him given his contract. This trade wasn't that bad. Also, we all know Regher had a NMC at the time as well.

5. Hudler & Wideman: I'll take Hudler for 4 million any day of the week. Especially on the Flames. They need skill up front because they barely have any. Not to mention he helps in the shootout and on the PP which the Flames suck at. 4 million is a good contract for him in my opinion. Lots of teams would pay him that. Same with Wideman, 5.25 might be a little much. But he's a top pairing D man that logs minutes and puts up good numbers, great on the pp, and not bad defensively. If someone signed him at 4.5 it would be a bargain. 5.25 I am ok with, defensemen don't come cheap.

Anyways, it's easy to pick cherries from a far and hop aboard the "hate on Feaster bandwagon". But if you know ANYTHING about hockey, and are not just trying to troll, those moves are not that bad.

So please......go on.......
Redmile247
Calgary Flames
Joined: 03.17.2013

Jun 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
Yeah we would have to do it as we do not have a 1C yet
- saskoil21


Cuz teams with 2 top centers never do well do they
kingbrehm
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Ferguson
Joined: 01.16.2011

Jun 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
Jordan eberle, 1st round pick in 13,14, Oscar klefbomb for malkin and douglas Murray. Thoughts?
- Snagglepuss


Fills one hole but creates another, but I'd do it just to not hear RC talk about his Kelfboner anymore.
time2produce
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Red Deer
Joined: 06.10.2013

Jun 11 @ 1:00 PM ET
The only reason Hemsky disappears in the playoffs is because the Oilers haven't been there in 7 years. Outside his rookie season Hemmer has been in the playoffs once, during the fluke cup run and was solid throughout.
- kingbrehm

he was looking for the big contract and was almost hurt at the end of the year every year after that plus he had pronger passing it up to him and we haven't had a D that could pass the puck up since, hence 7years no playoffs. its not the coaches or that the draft picks that have been good/bad or even players giving up or no heart its that the oilers had to trade the best D of are era [besides lidstrom but I liked prongers chippy side] for basically nothing and has never been replaced. pronger tricked the oilers into thinking they were good then he left and we ll hes been to the finals 3times and 1 cup while the oilers have been a laughing stock ever since. the best D man now is about to win the cup, bruins in 5
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