Lol of course the oilers would have cheerleaders! FYI flames Big country crew has been around since Pre 2004 ie: they aren't cheerleaders. They clean the facking ice, idiot.
- Emcee27

Unlike the other leagues the nhl put their girls to work!

You literally proved my point. Touché.
- Emcee27

U proved nothing. Tell me what good things Feaster has done bud

much cooler than mine...

__, nuge, ebs
hall, gagner, yakupov

i think that blank will most likely be a bigger, rugged guy that can create some space and go to the net for nuge and ebs.

prv's the wildcard whether he's top 6 or 3rd line. most likely 3rd for the better part of the season. showed some flashes of finally figuring out his niche last year, but still has aways to go. think he'll probably float
- hugefemale dog77

There's some nice free agents out there that would fit the bill nicely. Guys like Clowe, Horton, Bolland. But some idiot GM *cough* Feaster *cough* will likely offer them a huge over payment.

Gaborik? I think the Rangers got a good return for him. Brassard is breaking out, Moore will only get better and any team could use a Dorsett. The Nash deal isnt horrible, i just think people expected the BJ's to get more in return but it did make them a better team. Pronger was traded for Shanahan once upon a time and I do agree with the rest. I guess you're hoping a team gives away their star for a bunch of prospects who never pan out. Every fan of every team is hoping for the same, it doesnt happen that often.
- coolehmon41

In terms of getting a trade done, what would we care if they pan out once we've traded them? If the point is to demonstrate that you can get significant return for picks, prospects and non-franchise players, I think he's done a good job. Especially since we're not looking for franchise players per se, but rather strong role players.

To play devils advocate, the Oilers offer draft picks from rounds 1-7 from the 2014 draft until the 2019 draft, for Mark Fraser. No deal?

I agree to a certain extent that GMs will open with asking for the kids. But an inability to listen to other offers actually suggests stupidity on the part of 29 NHL GMs.
- Morris

I could see the Oilers trading this year's first round pick for some immediate help.

Dont insult me for my grammar, thats a cowards way of saying "you're right, i have no response"
- coolehmon41

Hahaha, well on the Internet, my friend, the pen is mightier than the sword! Or should I say the finger is swifter than the tongue?!

To play devils advocate, the Oilers offer draft picks from rounds 1-7 from the 2014 draft until the 2019 draft, for Mark Fraser. No deal?

I agree to a certain extent that GMs will open with asking for the kids. But an inability to listen to other offers actually suggests stupidity on the part of 29 NHL GMs.
- Morris

I guess examples would help prove my point. Lets just use Weber since Clouts mentioned him in this blog. Does Nashville make a deal without getting one of the kids in return for Weber? The conversation starts with one of the kids is all I'm saying, is there other alternatives, absolutely.

Hahaha, well on the Internet, my friend, the pen is mightier than the sword! Or should I say the finger is swifter than the tongue?!
- Emcee27

Only when you're stumped. You could just say "you're right, Feaster is a pylon" rather then being a coward and insulting me for using poor grammar.

Hahaha, well on the Internet, my friend, the pen is mightier than the sword! Or should I say the finger is swifter than the tongue?!
- Emcee27

much cooler than mine...

__, nuge, ebs
hall, gagner, yakupov

i think that blank will most likely be a bigger, rugged guy that can create some space and go to the net for nuge and ebs.

prv's the wildcard whether he's top 6 or 3rd line. most likely 3rd for the better part of the season. showed some flashes of finally figuring out his niche last year, but still has aways to go. think he'll probably float
- hugefemale dog77

I agree that PRV will likely be 3rd line. I almost wonder whether there would be a better fit for Gagner on a different line, with a strong shut down prescence centering the hall-yakupov line (kinda like the Hall-Horcoff-Yakupov experiment at the end of last year).

Roll these lines evenly
Big Gritty Winger- Nuge- Eberle
Hall- Veteran shutdown centre - Yakupov
MPS - Gagner - Two-way winger

Gaborik? I think the Rangers got a good return for him. Brassard is breaking out, Moore will only get better and any team could use a Dorsett. The Nash deal isnt horrible, i just think people expected the BJ's to get more in return but it did make them a better team. Pronger was traded for Shanahan once upon a time and I do agree with the rest. I guess you're hoping a team gives away their star for a bunch of prospects who never pan out. Every fan of every team is hoping for the same, it doesnt happen that often.
- coolehmon41

i didn't say any of those deals were terrible. dorsett, anisimov etc. very solid players. but not one of em true core players or guys that couldn't be moved.
and not one of em close to the caliber of the star going the other way

so if we're moving for an impact player, why in our case does it have to be yakupov? which is exactly what you're suggesting has to happen.
which again, also isn't the norm. i don't know how you can see any other way.

ranger wants to play close to home, hence the AHL contract with the marlies in the past year to get his nhl career back on track. he'll sign with the leafs in due time.

sorry to burst your bubble cloutier and oiler fans

i think hamilton will join the oilers though. eakins has a soft spot for him.

In terms of getting a trade done, what would we care if they pan out once we've traded them? If the point is to demonstrate that you can get significant return for picks, prospects and non-franchise players, I think he's done a good job. Especially since we're not looking for franchise players per se, but rather strong role players.
- Morris

I wasn't referring to strong role players, that's a totally different scenario and yes he was referring to franchise players.

U proved nothing. Tell me what good things Feaster has done bud
- coolehmon41

All I can prove is feaster loves his burger king croissantwich's, the jury is still out on everything else. Well, thats all for me tonight. Was a pleasure schooling you fools. Peace!

I agree that PRV will likely be 3rd line. I almost wonder whether there would be a better fit for Gagner on a different line, with a strong shut down prescence centering the hall-yakupov line (kinda like the Hall-Horcoff-Yakupov experiment at the end of last year).

Roll these lines evenly
Big Gritty Winger- Nuge- Eberle
Hall- Veteran shutdown centre - Yakupov
MPS - Gagner - Two-way winger
- Morris

i liked the 3 line experiment. seemed to be a much more balanced team, stronger defensively and tougher to defend against

i didn't say any of those deals were terrible. dorsett, anisimov etc. very solid players. but not one of em true core players or players that couldn't be moved.
and not one of em close to the caliber of the star going the other way

just like a hall/yaks type star to acquire an even bigger star. which is exactly what you're suggesting has to happen.
which also isn't the norm. i don't know how you can see any other way.
- hugefemale dog77

I totally missed the solid role player part. My response was to acquiring a franchise player.

A rule in the new CBA no one knew of until after the fact.
- Emcee27

Seems to me that its 100% Feaster's fault. That's his job to know things like that. It would be like if you built a house without permits and were forced to tear it down. How is it that the rest of the GM's in the league didn't make that mistake?

I agree that PRV will likely be 3rd line. I almost wonder whether there would be a better fit for Gagner on a different line, with a strong shut down prescence centering the hall-yakupov line (kinda like the Hall-Horcoff-Yakupov experiment at the end of last year).

Roll these lines evenly
Big Gritty Winger- Nuge- Eberle
Hall- Veteran shutdown centre - Yakupov
MPS - Gagner - Two-way winger
- Morris

Any suggestions as to who the bolded positions might be? Bolland might be a good pick up as a vet shutdown centre?

I guess examples would help prove my point. Lets just use Weber since Clouts mentioned him in this blog. Does Nashville make a deal without getting one of the kids in return for Weber? The conversation starts with one of the kids is all I'm saying, is there other alternatives, absolutely.
- coolehmon41

Nope, probably not Weber without one of the kids. but he's above and beyond I think for what's necessary. I think it's a foregone conclusion at this point the Oilers are going to be a forward-centric team even if/when they come to fruition.

But I look at Dmen comparable in skill/value to Jordan Staal, Jeff Carter, Mike Richards, Mike Ribeiro, and what those guys went for, and gotta figure that picks/prospects, Gagner/Paajarvi/Smid/N. Schultz/Petry could be big parts of getting that sort of deal done.

Lol of course the oilers would have cheerleaders! FYI flames Big country crew has been around since Pre 2004 ie: they aren't cheerleaders. They clean the facking ice, idiot.
- Emcee27

Are you always such a complete waste of oxygen?

Or, on occasion do you actually have something to add to a conversation?

Frankly your behavior is immature and being a Flames fan is enough of an embarrassment I would think you would be reluctant to double down and appear like a total loser.

I wasn't referring to strong role players, that's a totally different scenario and yes he was referring to franchise players.
- coolehmon41

When I say role players, I mean Jordan Staal or Mike Richards. They aren't the franchise, but they're huge cogs who weren't traded for prices the Oilers couldn't afford.

I wasn't referring to strong role players, that's a totally different scenario and yes he was referring to franchise players.
- coolehmon41

i don't neccasarily mean franchise players, and i don't think we're gonna be going after one of that ilk per se. but naming those trades drove my point home even further.
if those guys (kovalchuk, pronger etc) can be acquired for lesser quality players than rnh, then a player a step down (but one that can still make a real impact for us) can certainly be acquired by moving other pieces that still have value.
its been proven

When I say role players, I mean Jordan Staal or Mike Richards. They aren't the franchise, but they're huge cogs who weren't traded for prices the Oilers couldn't afford.
- Morris

EXACTLY

Nope, probably not Weber without one of the kids. but he's above and beyond I think for what's necessary. I think it's a foregone conclusion at this point the Oilers are going to be a forward-centric team even if/when they come to fruition.

But I look at Dmen comparable in skill/value to Jordan Staal, Jeff Carter, Mike Richards, Mike Ribeiro, and what those guys went for, and gotta figure that picks/prospects, Gagner/Paajarvi/Smid/N. Schultz/Petry could be big parts of getting that sort of deal done.
- Morris

you lost me there with the opening line "dmen comparable". I do agree any of the forwards you mentioned can be easily acquired with picks and prospects.

When I say role players, I mean Jordan Staal or Mike Richards. They aren't the franchise, but they're huge cogs who weren't traded for prices the Oilers couldn't afford.
- Morris

Gotcha, I agree. I commented a few years back when LA acquired Richards from Philly. I thought the Oilers could've matched that offer and made a bold move to get better. I actually got bashed by Clouts and a few others.