For the future, your one night stands should by no means have access to contact you following said stand.
- kingbrehm

female dog stole my wallett after I just payed her 200$ lol

A redundant defenseman? Do you even watch this sport?
- mochoson

u took it out of context abit.
orpik is a very solid player and of course would help. but the trade doesn't make a lot of sense for the oilers in neither the short term, or especially the long term

Edmonton's area code is 780?
- Oilers4Life14

that's the point

We just gotta find away to keep rnh from to many hard minutes, hes 1 or 2 more shoulder injuries away from being (frank)ed. Kid needs time to bulk up or something.

We just gotta find away to keep rnh from to many hard minutes, hes 1 or 2 more shoulder injuries away from being (frank)ed. Kid needs time to bulk up or something.
- Snagglepuss

Yeah, cause that completely prevents a person from injuring their shoulders. Bigger heads prevent concussions as well.

Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions 6h

#Flames have real interest in Portland forward Nic Petan. 2nd interview happening in Cgy this week. 46G 74A this season as 18 yr. old

EDIT: probably for their 22nd pick but who knows what they do with Feaster at the helm

Yeah, cause that completely prevents a person from injuring their shoulders. Bigger heads prevent concussions as well.
- ruttager17

Actually a thicker skull does help prevent concussions. Look it up.

Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions 6h

#Flames have real interest in Portland forward Nic Petan. 2nd interview happening in Cgy this week. 46G 74A this season as 18 yr. old

EDIT: probably for their 22nd pick but who knows what they do with Feaster at the helm
- mmold

I wonder how many of these interviews these kids intentionally (frank) up? I mean if you don't want a certain team to draft you you just give them poopty answers.

We just gotta find away to keep rnh from to many hard minutes, hes 1 or 2 more shoulder injuries away from being (frank)ed. Kid needs time to bulk up or something.
- Snagglepuss

Maybe we should not play him at all

I wonder how many of these interviews these kids intentionally (frank) up? I mean if you don't want a certain team to draft you you just give them poopty answers.
- Iggysbff

" oh yeah, im totally a me first guy. I really care about awards and personal accolades much more than championships. how else am I gonna get all the b1tches and get paid millions of dollars if my name aint in the papers??!" "I also expect to be first line right outta the gates or im gonna demand a trade. that or you can bench me and ill be able to chill and have more time for the clubs. either way, im cool"

Roger Millions ‏@RogMillions 6h

#Flames have real interest in Portland forward Nic Petan. 2nd interview happening in Cgy this week. 46G 74A this season as 18 yr. old

EDIT: probably for their 22nd pick but who knows what they do with Feaster at the helm
- mmold

That's who I want to draft with the 37th pick.

Richard Cloutier: Ranger Danger!
- Maxbone

We can surmise and attempt to analyze the inner workings of inter-personal relationships between prospects and management but in Harti's case this ones on him. Dude had every opportunity to come in and be the big jam they needed. He wasn't.

Would have liked to see him take another shot especially under Eakins but so be it.

People have a tendency to think the Oilers are such a bad organization that they're wasting and misusing gems like Omark and Shremp, when in actual fact those guys are talented but rarely motivated non-NHLers. To a certain extent, Tambs got Lombardi to buy into a Penner that doesn't really exist more than a handful of games a year. In general though, I think the Oilers being an 'bumpkin organization that wastes talent' is a perception that exists only on the internet.

However, if GMs actually think like that, I really think MacT - especially as a first time GM - can play up the village idiot routine in pawning off guys like Omark and maybe even Belanger. "We never got a handle on how to use him, we didn't think Linus was good enough on the backcheck to earn a shootout spot", the sort of stuff that makes it look like the Oilers as an organization are fools. Then take whatever we can get for these truly putrid players and run.
- Morris

I'd do that trade over and over again from the Kings' standpoint. Teubert turned out to be a bust and Klefboom hasn't played a single game. I don't know about you guys, but I actually really like Penner. Penner contributed immensely to winning a Cup and was one of the top players during the playoffs this season. He is very physical in the playoffs, can chip in a few goals, screen the goalie. His presence is definitely felt when he's on the ice in the playoffs. I really hope Lombardi resigns him (home discount of course).

The Oilers would love to have him on their team right now...

I'd do that trade over and over again from the Kings' standpoint. Teubert turned out to be a bust and Klefboom hasn't played a single game. I don't know about you guys, but I actually really like Penner. Penner contributed immensely to winning a Cup and was one of the top players during the playoffs this season. He is very physical in the playoffs, can chip in a few goals, screen the goalie. His presence is definitely felt when he's on the ice in the playoffs. I really hope Lombardi resigns him (home discount of course).

The Oilers would love to have him on their team right now...
- RedwingsAreKHL

Not saying you didn't get some use out of him, but we absolutely would not love him on our team.

Maybe all he needed was the pressure off of him, but he was pretty inconsistent and maddening here. If he were on the Oilers, he still wouldn't have the luxury of taking a game off. In LA, even if he's not firing on all cylinders Williams and Brown can more than pick up the slack. I'd bet you guys could make Omark look good.

I was less trying to claim that the Oilers fleeced the Kings, and moreso that was one instance where the Oilers' percieved ineptitude helped sell a player.

I have no idea whether Klefbom and Zharkov will exceed what Penner did (I'll leave Tuebert out of it), but I know Oil fans are happy with our end of the deal.

Not saying you didn't get some use out of him, but we absolutely would not love him on our team.

Maybe all he needed was the pressure off of him, but he was pretty inconsistent and maddening here. If he were on the Oilers, he still wouldn't have the luxury of taking a game off. In LA, even if he's not firing on all cylinders Williams and Brown can more than pick up the slack. I'd bet you guys could make Omark look good.

I was less trying to claim that the Oilers fleeced the Kings, and moreso that was one instance where the Oilers' percieved ineptitude helped sell a player.

I have no idea whether Klefbom and Zharkov will exceed what Penner did (I'll leave Tuebert out of it), but I know Oil fans are happy with our end of the deal.
- Morris

Oiler fans seem to be in love with Bickell, i.e., Penner 2.0. I've realized that Penner cannot be counted upon to be a primary scorer. He is a role player, and he fits his role pretty well (albeit, only in the playoffs). I'm sure if the Oilers were in the playoffs and Penner was there and playing very well, you would think differently.

Oiler fans seem to be in love with Bickell, i.e., Penner 2.0. I've realized that Penner cannot be counted upon to be a primary scorer. He is a role player, and he fits his role pretty well (albeit, only in the playoffs). I'm sure if the Oilers were in the playoffs and Penner was there and playing very well, you would think differently.
- RedwingsAreKHL

I think Oilers fans were in love with the idea of nabbing Bickell from under the radar, but so much for that now. I think you're right, he's about to get overpaid. And of course, some Oilers fans are doofuses and want to sign Penner 2.0 in Bickell and Horcoff 2.0 in Bozak to big contracts, thinking things will be different this time.

I think Penner was severely miscast here, which got a lot of Oil fans frustrated, but I think we were pretty happy to get a 1st and two longshot prospects in exchange for a role player. And given the fact that that role player can on occasion make good on his man-beast skillset, I'm sure you guys were pleased as well. Can't argue with hardware.

I really have no idea what we can get for horcoff. just feels like he's untradeable. but who knows?

as far as hemsky goes, I think what u suggested is exactly what we'll get for hemmer barring a big package for a star.
I hear a lot of people throwing around what type of pick he'd be worth, but I think most gms would be hesitant to deal any pick straight up for him. that's a lot of money going their way.
- hugefemale dog77

I really hope he gets bought out. Would love the leafs sign him for a short term contract, 3 mil per or something. Eat up some tough minutes on the checking line, giving kadri and grabo an easier ride.

I really hope he gets bought out. Would love the leafs sign him for a short term contract, 3 mil per or something. Eat up some tough minutes on the checking line, giving kadri and grabo an easier ride.
- pbrsimps

he's a solid player and can absolutely contribute what u mentioned. he's very similar to bozak. u wouldn't see near the hate if he was paid closer to 3.

I still thought there was a chance he'd be with the oilers next season. Even after the recent mact interview, which I personally think was abit overblown by alot of fans. but now apparently he's selling his house etc. and it looks like I was probably wrong

I just hope we can find a suitable replacement and not just a cheaper option that actually leaves us an even worse team.

Not sure if anyone has touched on this yet, but how lame was the decision for the CHL to restrict European goalies from coming over? Not only are you taking competition out from sports, but now our Canadian players are perhaps not facing the best goaltending talent out there. What about their development. Terrible decision.

Let me get this straight...

a PPG 30-40G 23 y.o star winger, another top 6 RW, a #7 overall pick, a mid-first rounder, our best defensive prospect

For

$8.7m 1st line center for one year, an overpaid redundant defenseman, and an unpolished prospect

You're fired.
- kingbrehm

for a conn smythe winner and two time art ross winner, and hart winner. Or put it to you this way, was LA dumb to trade you Jimmy Carson for Wayne Gretzky?

THe only thing I'd agree with you on is the fact Malkin is a ufa......that is the issue.

he's a solid player and can absolutely contribute what u mentioned. he's very similar to bozak. u wouldn't see near the hate if he was paid closer to 3.

I still thought there was a chance he'd be with the oilers next season. Even after the recent mact interview, which I personally think was abit overblown by alot of fans. but now apparently he's selling his house etc. and it looks like I was probably wrong

I just hope we can find a suitable replacement and not just a cheaper option that actually leaves us an even worse team.
- hugefemale dog77

Ya bozak is probably better offensively but he is nothing special defensively. He wins faceoffs and ppl assume he is good defensively. Hes fine, average but good at faceoffs. From what ive seen of horcoff is he is a solid shutdown center than can play tough minutes.
I have no idea why edmonton is getting rid of him if the cap isnt an issue. They need someone to protect gagner and RNH from tough/d zone minutes and give them soft ones.
I would love having horcoff as a guy to do that for kadri, and also to move grabo back to a scoring center role.
Ideally i would like to see two balanced scoring lines centered by kadri and grabo, then a third checking line with horcoff, kulimen and maybe frattin.

Not sure if anyone has touched on this yet, but how lame was the decision for the CHL to restrict European goalies from coming over? Not only are you taking competition out from sports, but now our Canadian players are perhaps not facing the best goaltending talent out there. What about their development. Terrible decision.
- ystoil

Its for the development of Canadian goalies. I dont mind it to be honest. Would be pissed if they took away the euro skaters though. They add a needed diversity and skill set. The goaltending positions in junior are limited though, and its already hard to have the younger goalies get meaningful playing time.

Its for the development of Canadian goalies. I dont mind it to be honest. Would be pissed if they took away the euro skaters though. They add a needed diversity and skill set. The goaltending positions in junior are limited though, and its already hard to have the younger goalies get meaningful playing time.
- pbrsimps

See I completely disagree. If you want to develop better goalies you need to start from the roots. Basically around the 10-13 age range. In Sweden, Finland, and Switzerland, coaches have to be certified in order to be a goaltending coach. Maybe every minor hockey team should have a certified goaltending coach (assuming numbers are possible). I think that is the appropriate fix. Not kicking out euro goalies. What about American goalies?

I think they are panicking from a small window without superstar goalies. You're basically using a bandaid on a stab wound to stop the bleeding.

But the top 3 goalies this year are Canadian and last year Malcolm Subban has the potential to get there.

Ya bozak is probably better offensively but he is nothing special defensively. He wins faceoffs and ppl assume he is good defensively. Hes fine, average but good at faceoffs. From what ive seen of horcoff is he is a solid shutdown center than can play tough minutes.
I have no idea why edmonton is getting rid of him if the cap isnt an issue. They need someone to protect gagner and RNH from tough/d zone minutes and give them soft ones.
I would love having horcoff as a guy to do that for kadri, and also to move grabo back to a scoring center role.
Ideally i would like to see two balanced scoring lines centered by kadri and grabo, then a third checking line with horcoff, kulimen and maybe frattin.
- pbrsimps

hmmm. I kinda thought bozak was pretty strong both ways. sorta horcoff from a few years back, but maybe I overestimated his defensive acumen abit. probably due to getting so many defensive zone faceoff assignments. but I guess that just cause he's strong on the dot.

From 2000-2012 there have only been 10 European born CHL goalies drafted into the NHL. Only one (Peter Budaj) played more than 3 NHL games.

Levente Szuper - 2000
Jan Chovan - 2001
Peter Budaj - 2001
Peter Hamerlik - 2002
Daniel Manzato - 2002
Riku Helenius - 2006
Jaroslav Janus - 2009
Phillip Grubauer -2010
Petr Mrazek - 2010
David Honzik - 2011