Give Horton 5 million x 5 years
Use the 7th OA as trade bait to acquire Couturier
- Reveen

I wouldn't have a problem with that. I think it's very likely that it would happen. Especially since Philly is negative 1M in cap. They have to drop somebody.

yeah, I know you were just responding. That's guy is a troll though.

Omark has to be close to being a total UFA soon, no? He's 26 and playing in the Swiss league.
- Dirte

I don't really know how that works, but im fairly certain you must be right. we cant own the guys rights forever.

it's a business and teams need to manage their assets so I understood qualifying him regardless if they knew he wasn't gonna play for us.
but i think getting anything for him or him ever becoming an oiler has past its time. cut the guy loose and give him a chance elsewhere. ( where I don't think he'll succeed either. but who knows)

People have a tendency to think the Oilers are such a bad organization that they're wasting and misusing gems like Omark and Shremp, when in actual fact those guys are talented but rarely motivated non-NHLers. To a certain extent, Tambs got Lombardi to buy into a Penner that doesn't really exist more than a handful of games a year. In general though, I think the Oilers being an 'bumpkin organization that wastes talent' is a perception that exists only on the internet.

However, if GMs actually think like that, I really think MacT - especially as a first time GM - can play up the village idiot routine in pawning off guys like Omark and maybe even Belanger. "We never got a handle on how to use him, we didn't think Linus was good enough on the backcheck to earn a shootout spot", the sort of stuff that makes it look like the Oilers as an organization are fools. Then take whatever we can get for these truly putrid players and run.
- Morris

Those guys are skills competition winners, not good hockey players.

I think it wouldve been easier to get him last year. He had a good year.
- Ihatebrianburke

Who Bogo or Hartnell?

Yeah it's tough to say but I really think we could make something of a physical specimen, caveman type. Look at the way Phaneuf plays: not cerebral in the slightest, and prone to errors for sure. But he gets the puck deep, delivers some big hits and generates a lot of chances on net. I think a one-track mind who can move the puck is something our brainier, flashier players could benefit from. Not saying Phaneuf or Bogo is our guy, but I like that style.

Those guys are skills competition winners, not good hockey players.
- Dirte

and can be successful in the euro leagues. not in the show

Those guys are skills competition winners, not good hockey players.
- Dirte

I agree. They're brutal. Somehow it's taken 6 years for information to travel among Oilers fans that Omark is worthless, let alone to other team's fans. And every franchise has one or two of those guys.

Heard the leafs might target Stalberg to come back. Thoughts?

Who Bogo or Hartnell?

Yeah it's tough to say but I really think we could make something of a physical specimen, caveman type. Look at the way Phaneuf plays: not cerebral in the slightest, and prone to errors for sure. But he gets the puck deep, delivers some big hits and generates a lot of chances on net. I think a one-track mind who can move the puck is something our brainier, flashier players could benefit from. Not saying Phaneuf or Bogo is our guy, but I like that style.
- Morris

Bogosian

I agree. They're brutal. Somehow it's taken 6 years for information to travel among Oilers fans that Omark is worthless, let alone to other team's fans. And every franchise has one or two of those guys.

Heard the leafs might target Stalberg to come back. Thoughts?
- Morris

there's still oiler posters who think we didn't give omark a fair shake. I had this debate for the miilionth time not a week ago.
just like theyre was still people on the schremp train for the same reasons right up until he got cut by the isles and was forced to sign europe.

I agree. They're brutal. Somehow it's taken 6 years for information to travel among Oilers fans that Omark is worthless, let alone to other team's fans. And every franchise has one or two of those guys.

Heard the leafs might target Stalberg to come back. Thoughts?
- Morris

Both of those guys have always been skills competition winners, not good hockey players. Long before they got to the Oilers org.

I wouldn't mind Stalberg, decent winger with size and speed. But, a winger should hardly be the Leafs priority.

Who Bogo or Hartnell?

Yeah it's tough to say but I really think we could make something of a physical specimen, caveman type. Look at the way Phaneuf plays: not cerebral in the slightest, and prone to errors for sure. But he gets the puck deep, delivers some big hits and generates a lot of chances on net. I think a one-track mind who can move the puck is something our brainier, flashier players could benefit from. Not saying Phaneuf or Bogo is our guy, but I like that style.
- Morris

he must mean bogo. hartnell did struggle abit last year. whether with a valid reason or not.
while bogo did take a solid step forward last year. he was on their top pair by the end of the year and playing fairly well at both ends.

id love to have either of em

I don't really know how that works, but im fairly certain you must be right. we cant own the guys rights forever.

it's a business and teams need to manage their assets so I understood qualifying him regardless if they knew he wasn't gonna play for us.
but i think getting anything for him or him ever becoming an oiler has past its time. cut the guy loose and give him a chance elsewhere. ( where I don't think he'll succeed either. but who knows)
- hugefemale dog77

I think it's age 27 or 7 years service, whichever comes first. As far as I can tell, he's only played two years of NHL-AHL service, so he'll reach 27 and become a UFA.

IE we can qualify him one more time if we'd like, but it might not do any good because the team that acquires his rights will acquire a pending UFA. Trade him this season or release him are the options I think.

there's still oiler posters who think we didn't give omark a fair shake. I had this debate for the miilionth time not a week ago.
just like theyre was still people on the schremp train for the same reasons right up until he got cut by the isles and was forced to sign europe.

- hugefemale dog77

They're the same player for the most part.

We'd have an easier time getting Hartnell who could make a lot of good impact for a cheaper price than Couts.

Chucked around all the time, but I also like the idea of trying Bogosian in a new environment. He plays a simple game and succeeds generally at being a credible puck-moving threat from the back end.
- Morris

Now your talking... Both can be had for significantly cheaper offers!

there's still oiler posters who think we didn't give omark a fair shake. I had this debate for the miilionth time not a week ago.
just like theyre was still people on the schremp train for the same reasons right up until he got cut by the isles and was forced to sign europe.

- hugefemale dog77

I'd take Omark moreso than Shremp. At least if Omark had listened, he could have made the adjustments necessary to help the team. Shremp was physically unable due to this poor strength and atrocious skating.

But both were absolute long shots. Maybe a basement team without better options or an amazing development team like the Red Wings could have coddled a guy like Omark until he performed for them. But I don't think any team would waste anymore time on him now.

he must mean bogo. hartnell did struggle abit last year. whether with a valid reason or not.
while bogo did take a solid step forward last year. he was on their top pair by the end of the year and playing fairly well at both ends.

id love to have either of em
- hugefemale dog77

Well Hartnell was going through the big 'D' ... do you not recall the powerball comments with Giroux... That was awesome...

Both of those guys have always been skills competition winners, not good hockey players. Long before they got to the Oilers org.

I wouldn't mind Stalberg, decent winger with size and speed. But, a winger should hardly be the Leafs priority.
- Dirte

Gotcha. Yeah I agree. Frankly with JVR, Kessel, Lupul, Frattin/Kuli and possibly Kadri on the wing if you get another centre, I think you guys should be set for top 6ers, and Stalberg has been exposed as a guy with a bit to learn in terms of bottom 6 duties. To play devil's advocate, he does fit in with the uptempo MO of the leafs.

Are you in the staunch anti-Thornton camp as well? I think for the right price it could be an inspired move, but realistically you're looking at a price perhaps even higher than what Iginla got.

I agree. They're brutal. Somehow it's taken 6 years for information to travel among Oilers fans that Omark is worthless, let alone to other team's fans. And every franchise has one or two of those guys.

Heard the leafs might target Stalberg to come back. Thoughts?
- Morris

Always like Stalberg. Playing for the hawks gave him valuable experience. He should fit in better that Mac. Its always about the cost though.

Well Hartnell was going through the big 'D' ... do you not recall the powerball comments with Giroux... That was awesome...
- saskoil21

? no idea what you're talking about. no sarcasm, just not following

? no idea what you're talking about. no sarcasm, just not following
- hugefemale dog77

He basicallly called his ex wife out saying it must be nice to win the 'powerball' lotto when she got half of what he has...

Always like Stalberg. Playing for the hawks gave him valuable experience. He should fit in better that Mac. Its always about the cost though.
- mmold

He's kind of the anti-Bickell. The recent scratches in the playoffs have maybe damaged his stock a bit. I wonder if he goes for much more than 2 million?

Gotcha. Yeah I agree. Frankly with JVR, Kessel, Lupul, Frattin/Kuli and possibly Kadri on the wing if you get another centre, I think you guys should be set for top 6ers, and Stalberg has been exposed as a guy with a bit to learn in terms of bottom 6 duties. To play devil's advocate, he does fit in with the uptempo MO of the leafs.

Are you in the staunch anti-Thornton camp as well? I think for the right price it could be an inspired move, but realistically you're looking at a price perhaps even higher than what Iginla got.
- Morris

Not at all. Big fan of Big Joe. He’s one guy that I don’t think earned his playoff no-show reputation. He’s been a point per game for most years. His last year in Boston, he got a bum rap. He had broken ribs, FFS. The Sharks have also done reasonably well with him. Just not the cup.

He'd be perfect to centre Kessel and Lupul too.

He basicallly called his ex wife out saying it must be nice to win the 'powerball' lotto when she got half of what he has...
- saskoil21

he's definitely a colorful fella...
that hair is fukin legendary

It's going to take more than just the 7th to get Couturier.
- Morris

Why? The 7th this year will be a better player than Couts in 2 yrs....

Why? The 7th this year will be a better player than Couts in 2 yrs....
- Iggysbff

u should be a head scout

u should be a head scout
- hugefemale dog77