Miller, Myers and both of our 2013 1st's for Stamkos.

Discuss.
- sambarugh

I stopped reading after you said Ennis was better than Hodgson.
- sambarugh

Please indulge me as to how Hodgson is a better player than Ennis?

Sekera, Sekera's wife and both of Sekera's children for Stamkos.

Discuss.
- sambarugh

This has a better shot of happening.

- JVince11

WTF is that gif. I don't even know how to react to that.

What do you think it takes then? Throw in Ennis?

Sorry I'm just bored of the Draft speculation so I'm going off on tangents.
- sambarugh

To get Stamkos it would take a ridiculous trade offer. Hes the best offensive player in the league. I think to get him it would take many first rounders and all of our top prospects.

Please indulge me as to how Hodgson is a better player than Ennis?
- theblueandgold

We already have seen everything that Ennis is capable of doing in the NHL...

Hodgson.. we really don't know..

34 pts for Hodge and 31 for Ennis...

Hodge was -4
Ennis was -14

Hodge had a shorty and a GWG.. Hodge also had 3 PP goals to Ennis's 2.

Hodge also won 46.8% of faceoffs while Ennis only won 41.9%

Miller, Myers and both of our 2013 1st's for Stamkos.

Discuss.
- sambarugh

silly

We already have seen everything that Ennis is capable of doing in the NHL...

Hodgson.. we really don't know..

34 pts for Hodge and 31 for Ennis...

Hodge was -4
Ennis was -14

Hodge had a shorty and a GWG.. Hodge also had 3 PP goals to Ennis's 2.

Hodge also won 46.8% of faceoffs while Ennis only won 41.9%
- JVince11

HOdge also is a center...Ennis truly is not fit for that pos.

I would like to see someone like Monahan come in and be that next center in the mix. Put Ennis back at wing. If the Vanek rumors are true, we will either have another player back our way (Wilson, draft picks, Laich, or even the Ovie) and can keep our 8th pick.

WSH will not get rid of ovechkin and backstrom. let that sink in. ok now lets move onto reasonable trade targets

Miller, Myers and both of our 2013 1st's for Stamkos.

Discuss.
- sambarugh

If we are trying to rebuild, then this trade makes absolutely NO sense.

WSH will not get rid of ovechkin and backstrom. let that sink in. ok now lets move onto reasonable trade targets
- Beezer33

so i went with Laich, Wilson, and their 1st for Vanek +

I know awhile ago, we wanted Laich. How's that for trade targets pal?

If we are trying to rebuild, then this trade makes absolutely NO sense.
- Sabresfan88

well that is just not true.....Stamkos is 23. That makes very good sense.

He knows what it takes to go the distance and I think he could be very valuable. Unlike Rivet and Regehr, he would come from a background of winning.

Obviously his age is a concern but I would gamble on a 2 year deal for the right price and maybe even have him play with Myers on a 2nd pairing with the assumption that Hoff plays on the 1P with a different #1 guy.
- sambarugh

It's exactly like the Rivet/Regehr situation though. 2-3 years too late, we need a minute cruncher in the form of a Seidenberg type player, smooth skating physical defensemen. Sad to say but we miss Lydman

WSH will not get rid of ovechkin and backstrom. let that sink in. ok now lets move onto reasonable trade targets
- Beezer33

and those are?

well that is just not true.....Stamkos is 23. That makes very good sense.
- toddkac

How do you figure??
We are giving up both of our 1st round draft picks!!
How are we going to rebuild, if we don't even have draft picks to do it??

How do you figure??
We are giving up both of our 1st round draft picks!!
How are we going to rebuild, if we don't even have draft picks to do it??
- Sabresfan88

I think he is saying that there is no Stamkos in this draft, and I agree with that.
Stamkos is also 23.

well that is just not true.....Stamkos is 23. That makes very good sense.
- toddkac

Myers is also only 23, and granted, struggled. But most defensemen take longer to develop. Plus you are losing 2 first rounders in a good draft, so that's a big hit. I realize Stamkos is the real deal, but if you are rebuilding, you have the potential for losing 3 very good players + the asset of Miller, for 1. That does not meet the definition of rebuilding.

How do you figure??
We are giving up both of our 1st round draft picks!!
How are we going to rebuild, if we don't even have draft picks to do it??
- Sabresfan88

I'm purely trying to get some discussion going. Personally I would make literally any trade with any team as long as it was fair to both sides.

Stamkos is a top 3 forward in the league and two of Tampa's stars are getting old. They score a lot but their back end needs help. They need to be a better rounded team that is for sure. They may never get rid of Stammer but it's interesting to think what it would take.

I love high draft picks, but getting a legit star at 23 is a different story, that is the ultimate prize imo - so I would give up A LOT to get that guy.
Sure we lose out on some of our future but it's an interesting conundrum (sp?)

For years we have been on these boards asking for a legit #1 center for years to come and boom, this would be it. So who knows.

I think he is saying that there is no Stamkos in this draft, and I agree with that.
Stamkos is also 23.
- kingcong39

OK, so we want to have a team with ONE superstar, and a bunch of players that are not worth a bag of pucks!!
Let's examine a team that is currently going to represent the eastern conference, shall we?
Boston is a team that has 4 solid lines, and they do not have a "Superstar=Stamkos" type of player. But, they win, win and win some more.
I hate to use Boston as an example, because I can't stand that team, but if there was one team that I would try to copy and build a winner, I would use Boston's blue print.

How do you figure??
We are giving up both of our 1st round draft picks!!
How are we going to rebuild, if we don't even have draft picks to do it??
- Sabresfan88

if you put stamkos into our current line up it improves it to about 4-6 seed which im not wanting to do I want the cup.

if you put stamkos into our current line up it improves it to about 4-6 seed which im not wanting to do I want the cup.
- hubie

Stamkos has the stats, skills, and heart that we need on this team. However, I will have to agree with you...look at teams like Boston, Chicago, etc. They started from the bottom of the league and (though some got lucky with drafting superstars) I want to be good for while.

Drafts are the way to go for this team moving forward. As the team slowly progresses with its picks, players will begin to see the turn the organization is making and will want to come to Buffalo (ex. Pittsburgh....though not the bests of examples at this point)

Stamkos has the stats, skills, and heart that we need on this team. However, I will have to agree with you...look at teams like Boston, Chicago, etc. They started from the bottom of the league and (though some got lucky with drafting superstars) I want to be good for while.

Drafts are the way to go for this team moving forward. As the team slowly progresses with its picks, players will begin to see the turn the organization is making and will want to come to Buffalo (ex. Pittsburgh....though not the bests of examples at this point)
- Watchtower62

I agree, we need to have the pecies in place so that a move to get a "stamkos" is the final peice to the puzzle not the first. d prefer to have 4 solid lines like Boston but what do they do that we dont? They draft well in the mid to late rounds.

OK, so we want to have a team with ONE superstar, and a bunch of players that are not worth a bag of pucks!!
Let's examine a team that is currently going to represent the eastern conference, shall we?
Boston is a team that has 4 solid lines, and they do not have a "Superstar=Stamkos" type of player. But, they win, win and win some more.
I hate to use Boston as an example, because I can't stand that team, but if there was one team that I would try to copy and build a winner, I would use Boston's blue print.
- Sabresfan88

I think this is also a very legitimate point and kind of the other side of the coin.

It takes a great deal of tact, finesse (and luck) to put together a team like Boston - definitely not something that Darcy could ever do.
The Bruins roster is a complex one although they do have a superstar, he's just not a forward. I mean one could ask the question, do Boston win their cup and maybe another without Chara? Maybe they do but maybe they don't.

Either way Boston is a super interesting team to break down - especially come play off time.

Stamkos has the stats, skills, and heart that we need on this team. However, I will have to agree with you...look at teams like Boston, Chicago, etc. They started from the bottom of the league and (though some got lucky with drafting superstars) I want to be good for while.

Drafts are the way to go for this team moving forward. As the team slowly progresses with its picks, players will begin to see the turn the organization is making and will want to come to Buffalo (ex. Pittsburgh....though not the bests of examples at this point)
- Watchtower62

This.
However, I am not sure if Darcy is the GM that could put a Cup contender on the ice in Buffalo!
He has tried 2 time already, and has failed 2 times!
I really don't have much faith in him to try to rebuild for the third time.
We NEED a new GM!

This.
However, I am not sure if Darcy is the GM that could put a Cup contender on the ice in Buffalo!
He has tried 2 time already, and has failed 2 times!
I really don't have much faith in him to try to rebuild for the third time.
We NEED a new GM!
- Sabresfan88

There are far worse gms then darcy