If they are there then take one ..

I don't think 8 is too high for Shinkaruk at all imo it's just right
- gerbe75pts

If Monahan is gone, that is where the run on defensemen will start. Move back with say Columbus for the 14th, 27th, and a 4th rounder.


Just a thought.

Does he have 1st line potential...?

Vanek - CoHo - Shinkaruk
Armia - Grigo - Ott

kind of thing?
- JVince11

Yes he will be imo but he's not ready yet .

Would you trade, Richards, Carter, Armia, and Grigorenko for Staal?

Or

Perry, Getzlaf, Armia, and Grigorenko for Staal?

I wouldn't.

Using the 2003 draft as an example.
- dadeadhead

Hey, I see why folks wouldn't want to do it. I'm just saying I would tis all.

And 2003 was Coburn and Bernier in those spots.

Yes and we can add mark pysyk , 2nd too
- gerbe75pts

Ennis, Pysyk, 8th Overall, 16th Overall, and a 2nd rounder all for one guy????


wow... either I don't get how amazing this draft is or someone is drinking while at work... Is MacK considered to be a Stamkos/Crosby/Ovie type guy?? if not I wouldn't give all that up. We need wingers.

If Monahan is gone, that is where the run on defensemen will start. Move back with say Columbus for the 14th, 27th, and a 4th rounder.


Just a thought.
- dadeadhead

I think we need to draft a scoring forward and a defensemen with those two picks.. in what order or how... is yet to decide...

Shinkaruk/Monahan/Lindholm and Risto/Nurse/Puluck/Zadorov.

We NEED two of those guys.

Hey, I see why folks wouldn't want to do it. I'm just saying I would tis all.

And 2003 was Coburn and Bernier in those spots.
- sambarugh

Using teams that had multiple 1sts.

If you dont get Mackinnon go Monahan. (both toews like) If you cant get him then go Lindholm.

Mantha is the best scorer in this class. I would love to take him at 16 but i feel he could be a bust too soooooo...

and drouin reminds me of kane so much just with an amazing backhand
- Beezer33

As good as Hecht's...

Ennis, Pysyk, 8th Overall, 16th Overall, and a 2nd rounder all for one guy????


wow... either I don't get how amazing this draft is or someone is drinking while at work... Is MacK considered to be a Stamkos/Crosby/Ovie type guy?? if not I wouldn't give all that up. We need wingers.
- JVince11

yes .. i would say more stamkos

Ennis, Pysyk, 8th Overall, 16th Overall, and a 2nd rounder all for one guy????


wow... either I don't get how amazing this draft is or someone is drinking while at work... Is MacK considered to be a Stamkos/Crosby/Ovie type guy?? if not I wouldn't give all that up. We need wingers.
- JVince11

I see MacKinnon becoming what Tavares is now... A solid shooter and passer that can get a pt/gm at least, not incredibly quick but a good skater, and responsible on defense.

As good as Hecht's...
- leonwaldo420

yes .. i would say more stamkos
- gerbe75pts

Seriously???????

I remember mid-season when MacK got hurt and disappeared for awhile and Drouin just took over... I know that MacK had a great end season and playoffs for Halifax.

Wow... if he is that good... then that says something... but i would really rather use Miller/Vanek as the key piece rather than giving up both of our 1sts.

Vanek, Ennis, 8th overall, and a 2nd in 2014 for Florida's 2nd overall?

I think we need to draft a scoring forward and a defensemen with those two picks.. in what order or how... is yet to decide...

Shinkaruk/Monahan/Lindholm and Risto/Nurse/Puluck/Zadorov.

We NEED two of those guys.
- JVince11

Chances are you'll only get one as those are the guys slotted 6th through 12th.

I see MacKinnon becoming what Tavares is now... A solid shooter and passer that can get a pt/gm at least, not incredibly quick but a good skater, and responsible on defense.
- LetsGoBuffalo75

are you saying this about mackinnon ?

( jw no big deal)

As good as Hecht's...
- leonwaldo420

hahaqhaha you win the internet.

and thanks jvince for the vanek feed i didnt backread but it sounds like a good idea. we wont get backstrom or ovie. for some reason i keep thinking j schultz and a first at least is the start coming our way . but kuztenov would be fantastic

Seriously???????

I remember mid-season when MacK got hurt and disappeared for awhile and Drouin just took over... I know that MacK had a great end season and playoffs for Halifax.

Wow... if he is that good... then that says something... but i would really rather use Miller/Vanek as the key piece rather than giving up both of our 1sts.

Vanek, Ennis, 8th overall, and a 2nd in 2014 for Florida's 2nd overall?
- JVince11

Everyone forgot that when he took over the memorial cup and won mvp

hahaqhaha you win the internet.

and thanks jvince for the vanek feed i didnt backread but it sounds like a good idea. we wont get backstrom or ovie. for some reason i keep thinking j schultz and a first at least is the start coming our way . but kuztenov would be fantastic
- Beezer33

I really think that Pegula would get Kuztenov to come over... I think Pegula has the money.. i really do.

I am out for awhile gents.. I might poke back in and out through out the night a little...


You guys all play nice... if anyone has a solid rumor or feed PM box me it because I usually never get to back read to find a twitter feed or anything like that.

T-20 Days until the Draft.

I really think that Pegula would get Kuztenov to come over... I think Pegula has the money.. i really do.
- JVince11

Money has nothing to do with it.

Most he can make on his EL deal is 3.775 mil per. 950k is a base, the rest is performance based.

I just heard about it today.... Gerbe filled me in.. he posted teh whole Twitter feed a few pages back...


I am not agains the trade.. but obviously the 23rd overall is involved.. but what else... if we get backstrom we have all centers and no wingers AT ALL on our team.. and if we trade for Kuzentov.. who knows how much money or how long until he comes over from the K.
- JVince11

Trying to find those posts, could you help me out?

Would you trade, Richards, Carter, Armia, and Grigorenko for Staal?

Or

Perry, Getzlaf, Armia, and Grigorenko for Staal?

I wouldn't.

Using the 2003 draft as an example.
- dadeadhead

Well in 2003 the 8th pick with Coburn and the 16th was Bernier. While I get what you are saying trading away possible top prospects could be bad, I can also see what he is saying where you would get one amazing prospect in return. To each his own I guess.

are you saying this about mackinnon ?

( jw no big deal)
- gerbe75pts

yup

every single player on the sabres/amerks for the 1st and 2nd pick

yup
- LetsGoBuffalo75

I will have to just disagree with the skating part he's the best skater in the draft and will be top 3 in the nhl imo


but nice break down

Well in 2003 the 8th pick with Coburn and the 16th was Bernier. While I get what you are saying trading away possible top prospects could be bad, I can also see what he is saying where you would get one amazing prospect in return. To each his own I guess.
- Rally_Shots

You set the organization back 5 years on a trade like that. See the Lindros trade.

Trying to find those posts, could you help me out?
- rsj2588

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