Hemsky for Ballard.

That's the kind of trade you'll get for Hemsky.

5 Million off injured winger with little drive, lots of squandered talent in a system he can't even succeed in despite it's focus on offense.

Another ridiculous trade proposal

To EDM
Gunnerson
21st
Kulemin
Ashton

To TOR
7th
Fristrics rights
Gagner
- Viktory

What system? What lack of success? Yeah the last two years haven't been great but he also played hurt most of the time? So seeing as he played hurt and between injuries I guess it means he had no drive either.

hey man like i said i'd pick kessel over seguin straight up any day of the week.

but seguin would be your teams top center.

it's irrelevant though because if the trade never happened, nobody knows if you would've finished with the 2nd overall pick and 10th overall pick. you could've finished with a mid round pick or something. you just never know.
- rangerdanger94

They probably wouldve had 1st overall both years because without Kessel those wouldve been really bad teams

U did not win that deal. Or even close.

Im hearing gardiners worth based on small samples and potential. And because of this, hes apparently worth more than a young, true 2nd line center that was on pace for 65 points.

But the same fans are saying they mighta won the kessel trade because they currently have the best player in the deal. Ignoring the massive upside and potential of the two they coulda had.

So u get it both ways depending on which one suits ur argument best?
- hugefemale dog77

so *massive* upside on a better team, is somehow > than a 25 year old who has been in the top 10 scoring the last 2 seasons.

Good luck with that argument. Do you seriously think even ONE GM in the entire league would take Seguin over Kessel?
(I am more addressing the guy who would not trade *either* Seguin or Hamilton for Kessel.)


What is the price for a top-10 scorer (playing without a #1 center mind you). It is probably 2 prospects with big upside. Can you even begin to deny that?

and,

I am hearing Edmonton fans calling Gardiner an AHL Dman

You do know that Gardiner, on a worse team, as a Dman, has more points in the playoffs this year after 1 round, than Seguin, who has played 3 rounds now.

... but yeah, Gardiner is AHL and Seguin is > Kessel.

so *massive* upside on a better team, is somehow > than a 25 year old who has been in the top 10 scoring the last 2 seasons.

Good luck with that argument. Do you seriously think even ONE GM in the entire league would take Seguin over Kessel?
(I am more addressing the guy who would not trade *either* Seguin or Hamilton for Kessel.)


What is the price for a top-10 scorer (playing without a #1 center mind you). It is probably 2 prospects with big upside. Can you even begin to deny that?

and,

I am hearing Edmonton fans calling Gardiner an AHL Dman

You do know that Gardiner, on a worse team, as a Dman, has more points in the playoffs this year after 1 round, than Seguin, who has played 3 rounds now.

... but yeah, Gardiner is AHL and Seguin is > Kessel.
- Aetherial

no.
my argument was Hamilton and seguin >> kessel
and every single gm would agree.


im also not sure every gm would take kessel over seguin. potential elite first line centers are incredibly valuable. its debateable, and u may be right straight up anyway.

but the leafs lost that deal no question about it

nope
- munky123

Yup