Sadly, with term getting taken off the table by the new CBA, a full NMC will probably be a prerequisite to attracting any decent UFA moving forward.
- Tomahawk

Awesome, there goes lunch

As opposed to the clean ones.
- Flyskippy

Isn't self-flagellation supposed to be good for the soul?

SSSSSSSSSSSSSSSHHHHHHHHHHHH!
Don't ruin it.
Just go with it.
- FlyersGrace

We all have our roles to play, lady

if you had to offer sheet one available player, who would it be ?

G'damn it Toc! Thanks for pointing out real stats and my laziness. Guess I'm stuck in the 2010-2011 season
- FlyersGrace

Try to post around the same time I do today... You'll look more informed by contrast.

Isn't self-flagellation supposed to be good for the soul?
- wolfhounds

According to DEVO, yes.

if you had to offer sheet one available player, who would it be ?
- MrBigglesworth

Tuukka Rask

if you had to offer sheet one available player, who would it be ?
- MrBigglesworth

Kadri

if you had to offer sheet one available player, who would it be ?
- MrBigglesworth

I'd love to seem them Ryan Kesler a young kid who they are high about. I'd avoid any O.S. to big name guys... a team under a perpetual cap-squeeze can't afford to lose multiple 1st-rounders on anybody.

Kadri
- mayorofangrytown

My third choice, behind Rask and Voynov

I'd love to seem them Ryan Kesler a young kid who they are high about. I'd avoid any O.S. to big name guys... a team under a perpetual cap-squeeze can't afford to lose multiple 1st-rounders on anybody.
- Tomahawk

Basically what Broad Street Hockey reccommended with Bernier

According to DEVO, yes.
- Flyskippy

Especially when a problem comes along.

Especially when a problem comes along.
- johndewar

My third choice, behind Rask and Voynov
- Jsaquella

I just wanna piss of Leaf fans. I was too nice to them this season and I need to balance the scales.

I would absolutely love to have Voynov. If I was being serious, he'd be my first choice.

Basically what Broad Street Hockey reccommended with Bernier
- Jsaquella

I'd suspect that Bernier is already too established to successfully poach for the $3.3M threshold, even on a multi-year deal.

I'd be thinking about guys like Rundblad, Blum, Wiercioch, Kris Russell... would their teams be willing to match a $3.3M, 3-year deal for said players? Any one of those guys could end up like Kesler... well worth the initial perceived overpayment when all plays out. And the Flyers would only be on the hook for a 2014 2nd as compensation.

Blues: We’ll match any offer sheet to Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Stewart or Berglund
http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...wart-or-berglund/related/

we can scratch all of the blues dmen off our list

Blues: We’ll match any offer sheet to Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Stewart or Berglund
http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...wart-or-berglund/related/

we can scratch all of the blues dmen off our list
- mydoglicks

That should make for an interesting summer in St. Louis. I'd challenge that as a competing Western GM.

Gotta question not including lindros. A large portion of the younger fan base identifies with him. Take off barber IMO. I wasnt around in the 70's but lindros at a time was the premier player in the sport
- Just5

Gotta argue with you there. I am old enough to remember the 70s. Barber was the best all around left wing in the game from about 73-80 and is in the hall of fame, and was key player on a team that won 2 cups and went to the finals 3 years running.

I was a huge Lindros fan, but he was really only a dominant player from 93-99 and in his one final appearance, he came up pretty small.

Gotta argue with you there. I am old enough to remember the 70s. Barber was the best all around left wing in the game from about 73-80 and is in the hall of fame, and was key player on a team that won 2 cups and went to the finals 3 years running.

I was a huge Lindros fan, but he was really only a dominant player from 93-99 and in his one final appearance, he came up pretty small.
- BiggE

Yeah BiggE your age is showing....

Blues: We’ll match any offer sheet to Pietrangelo, Shattenkirk, Stewart or Berglund
http://prohockeytalk.nbcs...wart-or-berglund/related/

we can scratch all of the blues dmen off our list
- mydoglicks

We just need to sit tight and draft our own at 11. It won't be a cakewalk, but all things being equal, the Flyers with a normal offseason and regular season should make the playoffs, with that pick hopefully playing one more year of junior and then making the jump, like Dougie Hamilton did with the Bruins.

I doubt the Flyers were truly thinking they could get Pietrangelo, but I have to admit, I'm somewhat surprised they are so adamant about Shattenkirk -- not that he isn't a valuable player, but they haven't been a cap team in previous years.

I hope so -- I don't know if the boards have discussed it much of late, but the Flyers absolutely need another RW who can score 15-20 goals and, if Simon Gagne isn't re-signed, a LW who can do the same.

How they get them...I don't know. Maybe FA, trade, draft. Perhaps Tye McGinn's skating improves, or Michael Raffl or Petr Straka have one of those rookie seasons like Matt Read's.

But the Flyers absolutely need secondary scoring. It wasn't just the defense last season -- there were games where goals were nowhere to be found.
- AllInForFlyers

Excellent point. It is why I would be in favor of re-signing Jagr for 1 year. I believe he could be huge asset with either Schenn or Couturier and help them develop into better players.

Gotta argue with you there. I am old enough to remember the 70s. Barber was the best all around left wing in the game from about 73-80 and is in the hall of fame, and was key player on a team that won 2 cups and went to the finals 3 years running.

I was a huge Lindros fan, but he was really only a dominant player from 93-99 and in his one final appearance, he came up pretty small.
- BiggE

Random fact: Eric is still in the Top 20, all time, in NHL History in Points per game (PPG).

Everyone ahead of him is either in the HoF or will be shortly. A lot of the guys behind him (the next 30 or so) are also in the HoF.

All right, but apart from the sanitation, medicine, education, wine, public order, irrigation, roads, the fresh water system and public health, what has the Power Play ever done for us?
- Flyskippy

Yeah BiggE your age is showing....
- FlyersGrace

Now, now be nice to your elders

Not to beat the dead horse again about Sean Couturier, but here goes.

Somebody's got to stop these guys. Again, it doesn't have to be Sean Couturier. But at least we know one thing: He can do it, and is good enough at it that he is dependable at it, and even if the offense never, ever comes, we at least know he's going to get physically stronger.

That stuff matters.
- AllInForFlyers

This is a very convincing argument in favor of keeping Coots. I personally think we may end up trading him for a defensemen. Whether that is Yandle or not, I'm sure that debate will go on for a bit. But here are some factors:

1. The D absolutely needs upgrading. No one is debating this. It also seems like you're paying a premium for anything close to resembling a decent two-way or offensive minded dmen these days. So the trade route means overpaying.

2. I agree with your later point that the offense needs secondary scoring. I think last year lots of guys had down years, but the previous year many had career years. Reality is somewhere in the middle. I think G pressed this year, not because of the captaincy, but because he felt the need to put it all on this shoulders. Need a #2 line that takes the pressure off of G/Jake.

3. I don't know what Couturiers offensive upside is. On one hand his scoring was in the Q, and that doesn't always translate to NHL. His speed is a little bit of a concern. On the other hand, power forwards develop later and he hasn't been put in a position to succeed on offense either (no real wingers, d responsibility)

4. But...I'm not sold on G-Coots-Laughton as the three centers either, assuming they trade Schenn. If Couturier is going to blossom as a serious offensive threat, that won't happen overnight. Maybe 2-3 years out. Not sure of Laughton's offensive upside in NHL either. So probably not enough offense from the 2nd/3rd lines there.

5. i'd be ok with G-Schenn-Coots with a "roll three lines, balanced scoring" approach if they can upgrade the D another way and add some wingers. I'm not a big fan of making Coots a checking-line center with 10-15 goal wingers either. Not sure how Laughton fits in honestly. I still would have drafted Maata, but that's just me.

6. Assuming they keep Laughton, his role seems to be a checking center. While he doesn't appear to be have the Selke-caliber upside that Coots does, you might have two pegs for a single hole. It's not so much "redundancy" vs. numbers.

7. I think they are 2-3 years away from being a serious contender. I don't think the Flyers think this though. I'd be ok with letting the young players grow. I do feel better with Holmgren calling the shots vs. Clarkie (Couturier would have been gone at TDL!). But with the Snider effect...who knows.

So I expect some move that will likely trade one or more of Read-Simmonds-Schenn-Couturier. Maybe more than one. Couturier has the most upside and hence value, which means moving less roster players out in a single mega-trade, e.g. Coots or Schenn/Read. They'll need to replace offense if the latter move is made.

For all of these reasons, I think Couturier is more likely to get traded this off-season.