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rebel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 05.03.2007

Jun 10 @ 12:10 PM ET
Hook line and sinker to bring in some hits, just like this one. .....
- LeftCoaster


Just another parasite living off the Leafs! But if that's what it takes to get traffic to the blogs it's just further proof of how much hockey is dependent on the Leafs and Leafs' fans I guess!!
Canuckleafer
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 10 @ 12:12 PM ET
Are you kidding me, that's all MG does is procratinate! How's that Luongo trade working for you?
- rebel


That and he's already said it will be a long search.
Canuckfan2006
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 02.24.2006

Jun 10 @ 12:15 PM ET
so what! ..eakins hasnt proven at NHL level.........
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 12:15 PM ET
Just another parasite living off the Leafs! But if that's what it takes to get traffic to the blogs it's just further proof of how much hockey is dependent on the Leafs and Leafs' fans I guess!!
- rebel

Hard to argue with that, Ontario has twice the population of BC so it makes sense.
rebel
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Canada
Joined: 05.03.2007

Jun 10 @ 12:17 PM ET
That and he's already said it will be a long search.
- Canuckleafer


I think they'll find WMD's and OJ will find the real killer before MG finalizes his short list of potential trade partners!
Phratz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.02.2006

Jun 10 @ 12:18 PM ET
Vancouver fans are hilarious. On here and over at HF Boards they kept saying Gillis better hurry up and sign this guy before someone else does.

Now someone has beaten Gillis to Eakins and some fans are saying say we didn't want him anyways.



If i was Eakins, I would have chosen Edmonton too. Much better culture, a team on the upswing versus on the downswing, a new building on the way, and a history of winning that Vancouver can only dream of.

Overall, a good decision and much better fit for Eakins personally. I don't envy the next coach of the Canucks, he'll be at the helm of a sinking ship.




LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 12:22 PM ET
Vancouver fans are hilarious. On here and over at HF Boards they kept saying Gillis better hurry up and sign this guy before someone else does.

Now someone has beaten Gillis to Eakins and some fans are saying say we didn't want him anyways.



If i was Eakins, I would have chosen Edmonton too. Much better culture, a team on the upswing versus on the downswing, a new building on the way, and a history of winning that Vancouver can only dream of.

Overall, a good decision and much better fit for Eakins personally. I don't envy the next coach of the Canucks, he'll be at the helm of a sinking ship.

- Phratz

I think the Canucks brass is infinitely smarter than the average fan, if they truly wanted him they'd have made him an offer. My guess is they want someone with NHL experience? Eakins is a good young coach, but intelligent NHL brass can see past the media hype.
Phratz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.02.2006

Jun 10 @ 12:27 PM ET
I think the Canucks brass is infinitely smarter than the average fan, if they truly wanted him they'd have made him an offer. My guess is they want someone with NHL experience? Eakins is a good young coach, but intelligent NHL brass can see past the media hype.
- LeftCoaster


I don't buy that argument.

If Aquilini hired a GM who had no NHL experience, i don't think he'd have a problem hiring a coach with no NHL experience. And I don't see a difference between hiring a coach with NHL experience who was ultimately fired versus a guy who hasn't had the chance to be fired yet.

Anyway, I still think they're considering a coach who hasn't been mentioned yet. I wonder who they interviewed in Toronto during the combine?



B_A_Baracus
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Hockey Abiss that is the U
Joined: 01.12.2006

Jun 10 @ 12:28 PM ET
This has nothing to do with trying to piss off T.O. And all with the fact that Mike Gillis likes to analyze the $hit out of everything before making a decision... which is why it took a month for AV to keep his job at the beginning of Gillis' tenure and three weeks to fire him. It also explains why Luongo is still a Canuck and every trade deadline passes with all the stories of the players "they almost had". Gillis needs to learn to make decisions on the fly and just pull the Freaking trigger every now and then!
moondawg
Vancouver Canucks
Location: The Island, BC
Joined: 02.01.2007

Jun 10 @ 12:30 PM ET
Vancouver fans are hilarious. On here and over at HF Boards they kept saying Gillis better hurry up and sign this guy before someone else does.

Now someone has beaten Gillis to Eakins and some fans are saying say we didn't want him anyways.



If i was Eakins, I would have chosen Edmonton too. Much better culture, a team on the upswing versus on the downswing, a new building on the way, and a history of winning that Vancouver can only dream of.

Overall, a good decision and much better fit for Eakins personally. I don't envy the next coach of the Canucks, he'll be at the helm of a sinking ship.

- Phratz


If you're talking about my comments, I have posted numerous times about Eakins inexperience and defensive style not working in Van.
Phratz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.02.2006

Jun 10 @ 12:31 PM ET
If you're talking about my comments, I have posted numerous times about Eakins inexperience and defensive style not working in Van.
- moondawg


Nope, I wasn't pointing out anyone in particular. Just generalizing.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 12:32 PM ET
I don't buy that argument.

If Aquilini hired a GM who had no NHL experience, i don't think he'd have a problem hiring a coach with no NHL experience. And I don't see a difference between hiring a coach with NHL experience who was ultimately fired versus a guy who hasn't had the chance to be fired yet.

Anyway, I still think they're considering a coach who hasn't been mentioned yet. I wonder who they interviewed in Toronto during the combine?

- Phratz

#1. Aquilini isn't hiring the coach, Mike Gillis is.
#2. If you don't see the value in hiring someone with experience vs someone without experience, you're probably not a business owner or have never been part of a hiring committee.

I don't think they want to make a decision before they have a good cross-section of views from several different coaches.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:33 PM ET
Ian Esplen: Ticking off T.O.?
Ticking off T.O.?

- IanEsplen

If Gillis' prime concern is to try and PO the Leafs, the Canucks are going no where fast. If Gillis had a second interview with Eakins just to PO Toronto how many other good coaches will want to play for a Mickey Mouse set up like that?


Gillis was trying to land Eakins but lost out because Eakins was looking for a young rising team he could work with, not a team that's core is all on the downslope of their respective careers.
Phratz
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.02.2006

Jun 10 @ 12:38 PM ET
#1. Aquilini isn't hiring the coach, Mike Gillis is.
#2. If you don't see the value in hiring someone with experience vs someone without experience, you're probably not a business owner or have never been part of a hiring committee.

I don't think they want to make a decision before they have a good cross-section of views from several different coaches.

- LeftCoaster


1 - I see your point, but in his end of the year presser, Gillis said he doesn't make a decision without running it by the owners so....

2- If you want a good lawyer, hire a kid right out of law school, he or she has something to prove. I prefer to take the gawker.com approach to hiring...inexperience required.





LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 12:38 PM ET
If Gillis' prime concern is to try and PO the Leafs, the Canucks are going no where fast. If Gillis had a second interview with Eakins just to PO Toronto how many other good coaches will want to play for a Mickey Mouse set up like that?


Gillis was trying to land Eakins but lost out because Eakins was looking for a young rising team he could work with, not a team that's core is all on the downslope of their respective careers.

- paulr

I highly doubt Mike Gillis gives the Leafs a second of his thoughts during the day, he's the President of a 200 million dollar organization trying to do what's best for his club.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 12:39 PM ET
1 - I see your point, but in his end of the year presser, Gillis said he doesn't make a decision without running it by the owners so....

2- If you want a good lawyer, hire a kid right out of law school, he or she has something to prove. I prefer to take the gawker.com approach to hiring...inexperience required.

- Phratz

Regarding #2

not my approach but if it's workin for ya, stick with it!
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 10 @ 12:42 PM ET
I highly doubt Mike Gillis gives the Leafs a second of his thoughts during the day, he's the President of a 200 million dollar organization trying to do what's best for his club.
- LeftCoaster


Yup. He doesn't give a shyt what the Leafs think about him interviewing a coach, no matter who it is. Likewise, the Leafs don't care about the Canucks interviewing Eakins.
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:42 PM ET
Ill tell you how it went, Edmonton had no chance to get a high profile coach, they went all in on Eakins and made an offer right away. You think Edmonton had a chance with Rupp, Vigneault, Stevens, etc think again. An established coach looks at the imbalance of that roster and instability revolving door of that front office, and the 1 coach per year mantality and says "no thank you". The Canucks and other big market teams are interviewing "ALL" the candidates and didnt make there all in offer on Eakins because they go through a process. Edmonton knows that they cant compete for the big names, so they don't go through the big process, and just go for there guy. The bar is set so low in Edmonton, a coach with no experience will take it to get his shot. The Oilers have been selling hope for a long time and I dont think people are getting fooled anymore. There was no competition for the Edmonton job, Mac T made up his mind and went for it, this is how the Oilers do business. If comparing the Oilers to a prom date, they choose the fat girl that wouldn't turn them down, the Canucks, Rangers etc are getting there choice of the prom queen, aka the experienced/ established NHL coach. The Oilers also dont develop there players, they rush them and give them spots right away because there team is so bad, this is why there never good, there generally a very impatient old boys club organization. 3 GM in 5 years and 5 coaches in 6 years is the definition of bush league. Everyone except for in the Edmonton market realizes this.
- gunner2233

Sounds about right. I'm pretty sure that Eakins wasn't thinking to himself that the Oilers were the team for him because they won 5 cups 25 years ago. Or that the Canucks weren't the team for him because they have no cups.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:45 PM ET
Just another parasite living off the Leafs! But if that's what it takes to get traffic to the blogs it's just further proof of how much hockey is dependent on the Leafs and Leafs' fans I guess!!
- rebel


Well if they're going to come in here everyday...the least I can do is give them something to whine about.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:47 PM ET
My guess is Steven's or Bylsma (if available). Hopefully MG doesn't procrastinate, however I can't see that (not) happening.
- VanHockeyGuy


Perfect article backing up for point here:

http://canucksarmy.com/20...swift-management-decision

This really is one of those, "you'll have to wait and see how it ends before you can judge."
Flats
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 11.01.2006

Jun 10 @ 12:47 PM ET
I highly doubt Mike Gillis gives the Leafs a second of his thoughts during the day, he's the President of a 200 million dollar organization trying to do what's best for his club.
- LeftCoaster


$200 million dollar club? lmao. Must be nice to run a small time operation like the Canucks.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:47 PM ET
I highly doubt Mike Gillis gives the Leafs a second of his thoughts during the day, he's the President of a 200 million dollar organization trying to do what's best for his club.
- LeftCoaster

Exactly!
Flats
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 11.01.2006

Jun 10 @ 12:49 PM ET
Well if they're going to come in here everyday...the least I can do is give them something to whine about.
- IanEsplen


Canuck fans are the biggest whiners in the league hands down. We love the 4pm starts PT when the Leafs are in town.
paulr
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: YYZ
Joined: 06.26.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:49 PM ET
$200 million dollar club? lmao. Must be nice to run a small time operation like the Canucks.
- Flats

Rich! A Leaf fan mocking another organization.
IanEsplen
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 11.22.2011

Jun 10 @ 12:49 PM ET
I don't buy that argument.

If Aquilini hired a GM who had no NHL experience, i don't think he'd have a problem hiring a coach with no NHL experience. And I don't see a difference between hiring a coach with NHL experience who was ultimately fired versus a guy who hasn't had the chance to be fired yet.

Anyway, I still think they're considering a coach who hasn't been mentioned yet. I wonder who they interviewed in Toronto during the combine?

- Phratz


Owners hire GMs, GMs hire coaches...that generally how it works.

the difference is there is a different guy doing the hiring.
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