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2Real
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: IT'S GRITTIN TIME, CA
Joined: 07.14.2007

Jun 9 @ 4:04 PM ET
http://www.capgeek.com/free-agents/?year_id=2013&team_id=-1&position_id=G&fa_type_id=2

Besides those they could make a trade, or see who somebody else uses a compliance buyout on.

- Jsaquella

great lets sign nabokov
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:04 PM ET
Read and counts for Bernier voynov and a 2nd
- Philly1980


stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 9 @ 4:04 PM ET
It still a hell of a core even when you subtract one of those guys. Someone has to go to address the D. Ideally I'd say Hartnell, but I dont think they'll be shopping him.
- hereticpride


Very good young core but in order to move either I would want a stud back in return. Not sure there are many teams trading those types of defenseman.
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 9 @ 4:05 PM ET
Dont forget too guys, if they draft a forward, like say Shinkaruk, Horvat or Domi that will greatly lessen the sting of losing one of the kids.

I like B Schenn a lot but being totally honest, if they trade him for a d man and draft Horvat I don't think I'll be missing him all that long.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 9 @ 4:07 PM ET
Oilers to name Eakins as new head coach http://www.puckd.com/team/news/Edmonton-Oilers
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 9 @ 4:10 PM ET

- GirouxForTheShow

Damn iPad auto correct
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 9 @ 4:12 PM ET
Damn iPad auto correct
- Philly1980

Yeah I'd much rather have this guy.

MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 9 @ 4:28 PM ET
What's the point in keeping him one year? If he gets hurt your stuck with that contract. Why keep him for one more season as back up just to buy him out? The Flyers don't have the luxury in cap space to keep a $5M+ cap hit on the bench opening the door.
- stveshdy


I agree. At this point, if he stays, even if he plays decent, people will ask why isn't he elite? The first weird thing he does (at least in the minds of the media), will be blown out of proportion. First losing streak, some innocuous comment gets twisted in to something else.

The guy will never get a fair shake in this town. He is at war with the media, there is a vocal portion of the fan base who will be on him no matter what he does led by the morons on the radio. It is going to be a public relations fiasco, which is just going to build on the current fiasco.

And then there is the play on the ice...the inconsistency. We need a different type of goalie to play behind this system. A guy who can handle the puck well for one. It was just not a good fit on too many different levels. Amnesty both now and use that 11 million in cap space to fill other holes.....
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 9 @ 4:36 PM ET
I agree. At this point, if he stays, even if he plays decent, people will ask why isn't he elite? The first weird thing he does (at least in the minds of the media), will be blown out of proportion. First losing streak, some innocuous comment gets twisted in to something else.

The guy will never get a fair shake in this town. He is at war with the media, there is a vocal portion of the fan base who will be on him no matter what he does led by the morons on the radio. It is going to be a public relations fiasco, which is just going to build on the current fiasco.

And then there is the play on the ice...the inconsistency. We need a different type of goalie to play behind this system. A guy who can handle the puck well for one. It was just not a good fit on too many different levels. Amnesty both now and use that 11 million in cap space to fill other holes.....

- MBFlyerfan


I completely agree. Better to cut ties now.
Flyers_01
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 10.03.2006

Jun 9 @ 4:36 PM ET
We seem to be getting ready to dump ours....on the other hand

Josh Yohe ‏@JoshYohe_Trib 1m

Bylsma: "Fleury is our No. 1 goalie and will be moving forward. He is a guy who will come back to this team."

Did Bylsma watch the games?

- Jsaquella


My worst nightmare would be buying out Bryz and having him playing for peanuts for either Pittsburgh or NJ. Pittsburgh has enough offense that Bryz merely has to be average to rack up the wins and NJ has the team defense to minimize his flaws.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 9 @ 4:38 PM ET
My worst nightmare would be buying out Bryz and having him playing for peanuts for either Pittsburgh or NJ. Pittsburgh has enough offense that Bryz merely has to be average to rack up the wins and NJ has the team defense to minimize his flaws.
- Flyers_01



Yeah, I was impressed with the way Pittsburgh kept finding the back of the net against Boston... oh.. wait...
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 9 @ 4:38 PM ET
My worst nightmare would be buying out Bryz and having him playing for peanuts for either Pittsburgh or NJ. Pittsburgh has enough offense that Bryz merely has to be average to rack up the wins and NJ has the team defense to minimize his flaws.
- Flyers_01


Can't be afraid of Bryz going elsewhere and playing well. The Flyers need to do what's best for there team.
flyerfan28
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: CA
Joined: 02.06.2012

Jun 9 @ 4:45 PM ET
My worst nightmare would be buying out Bryz and having him playing for peanuts for either Pittsburgh or NJ. Pittsburgh has enough offense that Bryz merely has to be average to rack up the wins and NJ has the team defense to minimize his flaws.
- Flyers_01


Then so be it, Bob is now in Columbus whom due to realignment Flyers will play more frequently. Obviously Columbus doesn't have the firepower Pitt does but Pitt also doesn't play particularly good D either. I honestly believe if Bryz is bought out his career will continue in the KHL.
poohcrumbs
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: I think Loov is going to become another Lidstrom- matt1337
Joined: 09.12.2009

Jun 9 @ 4:53 PM ET
Sign Gustavsson the freaking Monster...
dingo8urbaby
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 9 @ 5:04 PM ET
It's not that i'm looking for away to give up Gustaffsson because he's really taken some big steps this season but it's more of a who would you rather have. Would you guys be willing to move Read and Gus for Erik Johnson?
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 9 @ 5:08 PM ET
It's not that i'm looking for away to give up Gustaffsson because he's really taken some big steps this season but it's more of a who would you rather have. Would you guys be willing to move Read and Gus for Erik Johnson?
- dingo8urbaby


Yes but the Avs wouldn't.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 5:09 PM ET
Sign Gustavsson the freaking Monster...
- poohcrumbs


No
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 9 @ 5:13 PM ET
sorry i must have missed the fact they were rotating goalies every other game cause of soft goals and inability to stop a beachball
- 2Real

Luongo played 25 playoff games and Schneider played 5 that year. Before that lupngo played 60 games in the regular season. I'm not saying he was great but I think it amounts to jack in the playoffs.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 9 @ 5:13 PM ET
Bernier for read? Deal deal deal! Again this team isn't going anywhere for a few years Having two young goalies for next two years Is great. Let them battle it out. If one of them takes off you trade the other. In two years I'm sure you could get at least a read type value back for at least a decent back up goalie
isaiah520
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: "All train compartments smell vaguely of sh*t. It gets so you don't mind it"
Joined: 12.26.2006

Jun 9 @ 5:25 PM ET
yandle?

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/phi130609.html
flyerscup2011
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Future lottery winner
Joined: 06.21.2010

Jun 9 @ 5:26 PM ET
yandle?

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/phi130609.html

- isaiah520


yea, what's not to like, a puck mover whose solid in his own zone. He's no chris pronger, but we need a matt carle type in the lineup
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 5:30 PM ET
if bryz was the goalie for CHI, they never would have moved past DET.
- isaiah520


You don't know that. Bryzgalov has proven in the past that he can play at a high level with a team that plays well defensively, in the past.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 9 @ 5:33 PM ET
yandle?

http://www.thefourthperiod.com/news/phi130609.html

- isaiah520


I think people have this notion that Yandle isn't good because of the perceived cost. The guy is an all star caliber offensive defenseman, who is capable in his own end.

I remember people shredding the rumored Jeff Carter trade prior to it happening, too.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
My thing with it is there are a lot of other really tough hockey markets. A lot of them.

Bryzgalov has really helped make his whole situation into a circus. No other teams have the kind of off-ice BS. I know the media in Philly is crazy, but its gotten to the point where its as much of a joke as when the Flyers had 3 goaltenders playing in the playoffs.

- flyer_nutter



There really is no circus. And to make it into that, and as something that no other team has, is really an over dramatization. The Flyers simply have to win, and all of the minor, really irrelevant stuff goes away.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 9 @ 5:47 PM ET
I think people have this notion that Yandle isn't good because of the perceived cost. The guy is an all star caliber offensive defenseman, who is capable in his own end.

I remember people shredding the rumored Jeff Carter trade prior to it happening, too.

- Jsaquella


I like Yandle and Shattenkirk pretty equally. No doubt Phoenix needs some forward help. Plus, Yandle will be 27 and under control for 3 seasons at a very respectable cap hit for offensive d-man.
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