I dont see us moving any prospect with the name Marincin or Klefbom UNLESS its in a package for a legit top 2 defender. Cough Shattenkirk cough Bouwmeester cough

7th and Klefbom for a Signed Shattenkirk or Klef and a 2nd for bouwmeester?
- JShack

The Oilers have are in a weird spot on defense. Ages of dmen:
Justin 23
Petry 25
Smid 27
Klefbom 19

That is 4 players on the roster that have a decade at least of good play in them. Then we have prospects:
Fedun
Marcinin
Gernat
Musil

In Theory the Oilers are going to play these 4 with some veterans like Nick and Belov this year. Then they will draft other prospects. There is a good chance that the 4 below will never get their chance at playing. Fedun might be ready this year but we have no room for him. Musil, Marcinin and Fedun could compete again next year but we need to add a top guy and there is a strong chance Belov will be good.

Then we take into account future rookies. These 4 are assets we can part with if it gets us a piece we need now. Nick can go if Fedun is amazing but other than that we would just be bumping veterans for rookies.

I would rather use one of these, Musil if possible to move up one or two spots. Along with a pick from next year (second or third round) also Acrobella could interest someone.

Nurse is consistently ranked in the top ten. In all rankings. Ristolainen is ranked everywhere from top 10 to low first round. I think there is a pretty clear consensus that Nurse is the 2nd best Dman in the draft behind Jones. Strange things happen though so you never know.
- Iggysbff

Yeah this is a prediction of mine. I think Nurse will go second. Clouts convinced me. Looking at the vids I think he might be right. However I think both will go in the top 10 with Lind being the other.

Ya prolly not.

I have an easier time seeing them trading Couturier for a Myers or Shattenkirk or MDZ.
- Iggysbff

Shattenkirk is an RFA as is Pietrangelo. The Blues will match anything for AP so if a team offers Shattenkirk a deal work say 5.5/year, the Blues will not match. They have too many RFAs including Berglund and Stewart. They have no cap space to sign both now that they have JayBo's salary on the books.

Edmonton doesn't need a Shattenkirk since Shultz fits that role but a big body like Berglund or Stewart would certainly help. Oh yeah, and Jake Allen is also an RFA. The Blues are screwed if other teams sign their players to offer sheets.

Edmonton should try to get one of Allen, Elliott or Halak. Cheaper and just as good, or better, than Bernier who will cost a fortune.

Couturier will only be packaged for a number 1 d man

I think there's a trade to be made between edm and phi but if it's involving coots Schultz is coming back in return. Not a straight up trade obviously, maybe coots and read for Schultz and rajala or marincin.
- Girouxsalem90

I really don't see a trade between Philly and Edmonton. Both are looking for Dmen.

As others have said, Couturier is only getting traded if he is NOT the best player involved in the deal. He might be the best piece Philly gives up, in addition to picks or players, but the best player in the deal will have to be heading to Philly. Otherwise, it's not upgrading the team.

We have quantity; now we want quality.

Shattenkirk is an RFA as is Pietrangelo. The Blues will match anything for AP so if a team offers Shattenkirk a deal work say 5.5/year, the Blues will not match. They have too many RFAs including Berglund and Stewart. They have no cap space to sign both now that they have JayBo's salary on the books.

Edmonton doesn't need a Shattenkirk since Shultz fits that role but a big body like Berglund or Stewart would certainly help. Oh yeah, and Jake Allen is also an RFA. The Blues are screwed if other teams sign their players to offer sheets.

Edmonton should try to get one of Allen, Elliott or Halak. Cheaper and just as good, or better, than Bernier who will cost a fortune.
- therealagent

As I mentioned on the other thread where you posted this; St Louis will likely sign all of their RFA's and let go of Perron via trade.

Just a question:

If the Hawks do indeed buyout Hossa as is being speculated (so they have cap room to keep some other guys like Bickell and Stahlberg) where do you think he goes and for how much?

While Couturier for 7th overall + Marincin is a decent deal value wise, Phily has no business making that deal. The Flyers need to make the playoffs now, not 3 years from now. Edmonton would have to include a NHL ready defenseman plus the 7th overall pick to make it work. The only problem with that is Phily is not taking Potter or Peckham and the Oilers are not moving Smid or Schultz.

I think the only chance the Oilers have of landing Couturier is to offer the Flyers an upgrade somewhere else and hope they don't find a deal for a NHL ready d-man elsewhere.

Couturier
41st overall pick
Briere

for:

7th overall pick
Marincin
Petry
Hemsky

This deal gives the Flyers an upgrade on a player they were thinking about buying out (without having to use the buyout), the 7th & 11th overall pick which they may try to package to get into the top 3 (especially if Jones doesn't get picked no.1), a young NHL d-man in Petry, and a great defensive prospect in Marincin.

The Oilers get their 2nd/3rd line big centerman, a replacement pick in the 2nd round for taking Briere's contract who they give a shot in that empty 2nd line wing. If it doesn't work they buy him out next year.

Oilers forwards:

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Yakupov - Gagner - Briere
Smyth - Couturier - Jones

or if Briere doesn't work or they buy him out:

Hall - RNH - Eberle
Yakupov - Couturier - Gagner

Just a question:

If the Hawks do indeed buyout Hossa as is being speculated (so they have cap room to keep some other guys like Bickell and Stahlberg) where do you think he goes and for how much?
- Iggysbff

Hossa's cap hit is only $5M and the Hawks are in the Stanley Cup Finals, seems like a bad move to me. Especially with the huge amount of cash they would pay out.

Not gonna happen.

Just a question:

If the Hawks do indeed buyout Hossa as is being speculated (so they have cap room to keep some other guys like Bickell and Stahlberg) where do you think he goes and for how much?
- Iggysbff

I doubt they buy him out. It will cost them a fortune and they'll be paying for it until the 2028/2029 season. It's crazy: http://www.capgeek.com/bu...3&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=15

Both Toews and Kane are UFAs in two more years and while I think Toews is a career Hawk, I can see Kane signing somewhere like Buffalo. Hossa is still one of the best two way players in the game. I don't think the Hawks have to trade him. His cap hit is only 5.2 M and for that kind of money and the fact he still produces better than anyone of one of those bad deals, he's tradeable if they want to get rid of the contract. The Devils should reunite him with Kovy.

Hossa's cap hit is only $5M and the Hawks are in the Stanley Cup Finals, seems like a bad move to me. Especially with the huge amount of cash they would pay out.

Not gonna happen.
- Steven_Dean

Chicago media is saying it will?

He has one of those stupid long deals that is untradeable. They would surely get bitten by the cap recapture if they trade him. He's worth the cap hit now. In 5 years?

I'm just going off of what others are saying.

except Staal will sign in Carolina in a year...
- ChrisMS

maybe if he was traded to edmonton. but he'll be staying a ranger for a looooong loooooong time.

Chicago media is saying it will?

He has one of those stupid long deals that is untradeable. They would surely get bitten by the cap recapture if they trade him. He's worth the cap hit now. In 5 years?

I'm just going off of what others are saying.
- Iggysbff

they are nuts lol, Buying out Hossa to free up $5M in cap is not smart at all.

I would be surprised.

they are nuts lol, Buying out Hossa to free up $5M in cap is not smart at all.

I would be surprised.
- Steven_Dean

Won't happen. Gonchar is a 5M player in this year's market. Hossa's value versus cap hit is very good. He is very tradeable if they're looking to unload his contract which I wouldn't do if I were them.

They should try to resign Bickell. Bickell should stay. He has the chance to sign long-term and ride shotgun with Toews.

Stalberg has already said he wants more ice time so if anyone looks for a bigger paycheque and opportunity, it will be Victor.

Couturier will only be packaged for a number 1 d man
- XxHarounXx

Gardiner for Couts?

Flyers trade Courtier for a more established young Dman, like Hedman, M Staal, Ekman-Larsson. Or use B Schenn to anti up to acquire a Yandle or Bfylugien. You dont gamble trading those guys on a draft pick, way too risky

Won't happen. Gonchar is a 5M player in this year's market. Hossa's value versus cap hit is very good. He is very tradeable if they're looking to unload his contract which I wouldn't do if I were them.

They should try to resign Bickell. Bickell should stay. He has the chance to sign long-term and ride shotgun with Toews.

Stalberg has already said he wants more ice time so if anyone looks for a bigger paycheque and opportunity, it will be Victor.
- therealagent

he's tradeable, but once he retires (no matter what team he's on), chicago will get hit with a cap hit between $4.6 mil and $9.2 mil, depending on how many years are left on his deal when he retires.

in addition, the blackhawks only have $2 mil in capspace to resign 6 players i believe this offseason.

they don't want to buy him out, but they may be forced to so they don't get fcked 5 years from now and so they can resign their guys.

they are nuts lol, Buying out Hossa to free up $5M in cap is not smart at all.

I would be surprised.
- Steven_Dean

Its more about getting rid of the term of the deal, not about his current cap hit.

he's tradeable, but once he retires (no matter what team he's on), chicago will get hit with a cap hit between $4.6 mil and $9.2 mil, depending on how many years are left on his deal when he retires.

in addition, the blackhawks only have $2 mil in capspace to resign 6 players i believe this offseason.

they don't want to buy him out, but they may be forced to so they don't get fcked 5 years from now and so they can resign their guys.
- rangerdanger94

I think Sharp would be trade bait, he seems like the player to move out of all the high priced forwards, he is their heart and soul, but Hossa is just so clutch in the playoffs. They will try and unload Olesz's contract or buy him out to save an extra 2 million. If they trade sharp for a cheaper 2nd line forward (3-4m man) and a dman (1-2m) they will be safe

Flyers trade Courtier for a more established young Dman, like Hedman, M Staal, Ekman-Larsson. Or use B Schenn to anti up to acquire a Yandle or Bfylugien. You dont gamble trading those guys on a draft pick, way too risky
- DDM-Coga

I could see an Oilers trade involving the 1st round pick and Couts but it wouldn't be straight up. Couts and the 11th for Klefbom and the 7th?

Gardiner for Couts?
- BoBBeR56

He said #1 Dman.

he's tradeable, but once he retires (no matter what team he's on), chicago will get hit with a cap hit between $4.6 mil and $9.2 mil, depending on how many years are left on his deal when he retires.

in addition, the blackhawks only have $2 mil in capspace to resign 6 players i believe this offseason.

they don't want to buy him out, but they may be forced to so they don't get fcked 5 years from now and so they can resign their guys.
- rangerdanger94

Ah, that makes sense. They're kinda screwed then.

I would hold onto the pick. Oilers could regret passing on a prospect like Nurse.

I would hold onto the pick. Oilers could regret passing on a prospect like Nurse.
- TheRollingPuck

Many people love his game, but I'd be weary to draft a defenseman in the top 10 because he's got good size and speed. It less likely he will become S.Weber and more likely he becomes a Coburn-esque. He doesn't have jaw dropping O skills, and his hockey sense isn't as good as say Jones or Pulock. If you have a big defenseman with good size and he has the hockey sense of Pulock or Jones, then it's a no brainer.