couturier is gonna be a star in this league for more than a decade. kid is 19, plays like a 10 year old vet, and is potentially the steal of that draft.
- rangerdanger94

His offense will come around, luckily he brings value with his defensive game.

What about Zack Smith for Paarjarvi
- AlfieisKing

I'd say no to that deal.

But would take him on my team. Just not or paajarvi.

Oilers will not trade Ebs.
- redwolf

...unless it is to improve the club presently and long term.

so let me get this straight,
you expect the flyers to trade a 19 year old player with two years of experience in the NHL who is still on a rookie contract(flyers have no cap space) for a defensive prospect who might not play in the NHL next year let alone this year?

I am not saying couturier or brayden schenn is untouchable. simply saying a player such as darnell nurse will NOT be enough to get the trade done.
Throw in Klefbom, or next years first rounder and maybe philly thinks about it.
why would philly want a d prospect like Nurse when couturier could easily be the center piece of a trade for a young dman with NHL experience such as Bogosian or shattenkirk?

so let me get this straight,
you expect the flyers to trade a 19 year old player with two years of experience in the NHL who is still on a rookie contract(flyers have no cap space) for a defensive prospect who might not play in the NHL next year let alone this year?

I am not saying couturier or brayden schenn is untouchable. simply saying a player such as darnell nurse will NOT be enough to get the trade done.
Throw in Klefbom, or next years first rounder and maybe philly thinks about it.
why would philly want a d prospect like Nurse when couturier could easily be the center piece of a trade for a young dman with NHL experience such as Bogosian or shattenkirk?
- flyguy1911

They wouldn't, unless they were to turn it over in a package for another teams D. But then,why go through all the trouble involving Edmonton?

They wouldn't, unless they were to turn it over in a package for another teams D. But then,why go through all the trouble involving Edmonton?
- Jeropotato

Bingo!

Bingo!

- flyguy1911

He would be a great Oiler,though, and I'm sure Mac T will make a phone call.It would probably be a pretty hefty price though,and like you said,there are other options. St.Louis is a team I can see them do business with.

Plus, everyone knows the East is the Junior Circuit. Hawks will skate circles around the Bruins.
- Ogilthorpe2

Red text

eberle for lucic and a 2nd
- rangerdanger94

Deal

I'd love to have "The Cooter" on our team, but I believe it would cost a touch more than that. Perhaps adding a 2nd from whatever year and swapping Briere and Hemsky with EDM retaining 1 or 2 million of his cap to free up around 3 million for Philly in the process. If not "The Cooter", then how about Schenn? He and Ebs played together at the WJC, didnt they? Maybe he can share 2C and 2LW duties?

Couturier would be a great addition but I don't think anything happens unless Petry or Smid is at least part of the equation as well.

Never in a million years.

I think the oilers would do better to overpay and move up in the draft. I'll suggest something that will make people choke. Trade Nugent-hopkins for one of the top four picks. Draft your big center and keep ganger as your number 2. Ganger was great last year, he plays with a lot of heart and i'd rather keep that RNH is great don't get me wrong but if i'm keeping ganger, i gotta get a big center somehow. Barkov's my choice over RNH. Heres an interesting idea, if you read garth's blog earlier today he's got good piece up on the oilers. Maybe a deal for Miller. That would help the oilers right away and who knows with confidence in their goalie the Oilers might play better. It doesn't look to me like they trust dubnyk much. Anyhow I agree clouts it's going to be a ride. Lets hope it's not a hurrcane. Yah those are exciting at first but end in disaster.

Never in a million years.
- mochoson

"When you will lose your virginity"

Ill take couturier. Sign a couple bottom six centres like a lapierre or Gordon. Then when rnh is back, send gagner and a 2014 first for a good young defenseman.
- ystoil

You guys might as well forget about trading Gags. Horc, and The Belanger Triangle are gone. With Nuge maybe not ready for opening night. What are they gonna do, open the season with Lander as number one Center?. I know MacT is going to have to find a C or two, but 4 might be a little too much.

As a matter of fact i believe that Gagner will be signing a significant deal with The Oilers very soon, and will be given at least the "A", and maybe even the "C", as MacT has already stated his belief in Gags as a leader and a key cog moving forward.

I'm not saying it's impossible, but it would have to be a deal where he was somehow packaged for another center who is clearly superior.

Richard Cloutier: Couturier to Oilers?
- Maxbone

This is how that trade could work. The Oilers feel like they can pick up another D-man either by trade or free agency, so they will trade one of their D. The Flyers are going to buy out Briere and Bryz, so they'll have lots of cap room and they need a D-man.
I think it will be the 7th pick plus a prospect and Nick Schultz for Couturier and a draft pick. Which draft pick will depend on the quality of the prospect.

My guess is Petry plus a 2nd for Coutourier would probably make sense for both teams. Flyers badly need to shed some cap space on their defence, and Petry is a serviceable #4 defenceman with upside, who can move the puck and comes at a very reasonable cost.

*edit* Or possibly Petry straight up for Coutourier might get it done, I think the Flyers are extremely desperate to shed some cap space on their defence.

You have to give quality to get quality. Personally I'm not 100% sold on Petry, he's too soft and now that Schultz is here he's redundant somewhat. Oilers need to get a bit bigger and tougher in the 2nd - 3rd defence position to be successful in my opinion.

My guess is Petry plus a 2nd for Coutourier would probably make sense for both teams. Flyers badly need to shed some cap space on their defence, and Petry is a serviceable #4 defenceman with upside, who can move the puck and comes at a very reasonable cost.

You have to give quality to get quality. Personally I'm not 100% sold on Petry, he's too soft and now that Schultz is here he's redundant somewhat. Oilers need to get a bit bigger and tougher in the 2nd - 3rd defence position to be successful in my opinion.
- bazmagoo

Petry is one of our top hitters and he rarely misses a game. Trading the little talent that we actually have on D is a bad -- a very bad idea for the Oilers.

Personally I wouldn't trade Couturier at all. I mean they refused to part with him for Shea Weber last summer and this whole season now he's been rumored to go in lesser deals. If they feel he is their only means to beef up there defense I at least would only move him for a young player already in the NHL. Too risky for a guy like Nurse. There will be other defensemen likely available where they pick anyway at 11.

Petry is one of our top hitters and he rarely misses a game. Trading the little talent that we actually have on D is a bad -- a very bad idea for the Oilers.
- laughs2907

You are right in that Petry does play very well positionally, but he isn't an effective body checker at all. Do you think any forwards in the league come down the ice with any hesitation because Petry is on the right side?

I doubt any forwards fear Jeff Petry in any way shape or form. Just like Ralph Petry is expendable because of circumstance alone. The Oilers were gifted Justin Schultz, and that's why Petry is expendable.

@laughs

You are 100% correct that Petry is quality to give up, but like I said in a previous post you have to give quality to get quality these days in the NHL. I think the UFA market is going to be wild with the buyout clauses being taken advantage of, so I would expect the Oilers to be doing some serious interviewing during the free agency period with an emphasis on defencemen at that time.

@laughs

You are 100% correct that Petry is quality to give up, but like I said in a previous post you have to give quality to get quality these days in the NHL. I think the UFA market is going to be wild with the buyout clauses being taken advantage of, so I would expect the Oilers to be doing some serious interviewing during the free agency period with an emphasis on defencemen at that time.
- bazmagoo

There's no doubt that you have to give up quality to get quality, but when the quality that you're giving up is from an area that is already very weak, you better make sure you have a replacement lined up. J. Schultz does not make Petry expendable... To fully utilize our offense, the Oilers need more than one puck mover. Moving Petry for a center makes absolutely zero sense to me.

You are right in that Petry does play very well positionally, but he isn't an effective body checker at all. Do you think any forwards in the league come down the ice with any hesitation because Petry is on the right side?

I doubt any forwards fear Jeff Petry in any way shape or form. Just like Ralph Petry is expendable because of circumstance alone. The Oilers were gifted Justin Schultz, and that's why Petry is expendable.
- bazmagoo

Welp, unless Justin plans on playing first pairing minutes and second( 45:00 +) We had better trade for another right side Dman that logs 21+ mins , is positionally strong with above average puck moving ability to play with smid. Good thing theres like 1000000 of them out there.

There's no doubt that you have to give up quality to get quality, but when the quality that you're giving up is from an area that is already very weak, you better make sure you have a replacement lined up. J. Schultz does not make Petry expendable... To fully utilize our offense, the Oilers need more than one puck mover. Moving Petry for a center makes absolutely zero sense to me.
- laughs2907

In terms of a trade scenario it's not great for either team as they are trading from a weak position. Anyone who looks at the Flyers cap scenario for next season can see the team is operating from a vulnerable position, especially on defence. The Oilers publicly stating they are ditching Shawn Horcoff puts them in a position of weakness as well. We need a 3rd line centre, and if this trade was to happen it would likely be Couturier next season with Lander hopefully pushing in the near future.

Would likely depend on where each player ends up. Not that risky a move for either team, in my opinion.

Personally I wouldn't trade Couturier at all. I mean they refused to part with him for Shea Weber last summer and this whole season now he's been rumored to go in lesser deals. If they feel he is their only means to beef up there defense I at least would only move him for a young player already in the NHL. Too risky for a guy like Nurse. There will be other defensemen likely available where they pick anyway at 11.
- FlyerAdam30

If im the Flyers, I dont move at all. 11 should yeild you one of Zardorov / Ristoleninen. Unless your boner for Nurse is massive, I dont move anyone for anything. Buy out Bryz and Briere. Sign Streit for too much money, pick up Miller for whatever and you'll be back to 5/6th in the east next year.