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Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:44 PM ET
What I don't understand is why the Blues would want Miller? They started the year with Halak who IMO is better than Miller and using Jake Allen as a backup who is suppose to be the next big thing. Obviously they like them as they weren't playing Elliot who just got off a season with 9 SOs. Then Elliot gets his shot and takes over. Again proving he is an elite goalie. So now they have two starters that are arguably better than Miller and Jake Allen who they really want to play. They aren't going to part with Allen. Elliot makes a 1.5 a year so he is safe and Halak gets paid less than Miller.

St. Louis has a bunch of RFA's, good ones, that need resigning. Plus they need a Center. The only way this makes sense is if St. Louis is trading Elliot and Halak. I just don't see a reason you trade a 1.5 mill goalie that is doing so well for a worse goalie that adds almost 4 mill cap space. In fact there is no team in the league that needs miller less than St. louis.

- bsteinley


A voice of reason!
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:45 PM ET
I'm thinking of becoming a season ticket holder here at hockeybuzz.com, but first I need to know how accurate this rumor chart has been in the past..
So Ticket Holders, clue me in would ya?

- oilers2k14


The rumor chart is not accurate at all. I am a ticket holder because it is cheap and I like to support the site. As an Oiler fan the chart will frustrate you to no end. The Oilers are always most likely to sign people that make no sense for them to sign like Ryan Whitney and least likely to go after guys that MacT has says he wants. Like large bottom 6 players, a top d, a replacement for Hemsky and a backup goalie. The chart is bias towards large market teams, particularly in the east. Most of them make no sense either. Such as St.Louis with their 3 NHL ready goalies going after Miller when they actually need a center and they have two goalies that are better than Miller who get paid less.

Random rumors for the teams with the most fans. Then the teams with the least get thrown in occasionally as filler with no real thought to what the GM is actually talking about. You want to know, hit the teams bloggers occasionally. Read the headlines and you are up to better off. Most years are better than this one but usually I would say the only ones that are right is the ones he predicts to stay with the team they are with (which he does with almost all players to some percentage).
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:45 PM ET
I'm thinking of becoming a season ticket holder here at hockeybuzz.com, but first I need to know how accurate this rumor chart has been in the past..
So Ticket Holders, clue me in would ya?

- oilers2k14


Blues are interested in Miller. Nuff said, save your money.
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:48 PM ET
So I guess people forgot about Gonchar stepping up when Karlsson went down and being a big reason they kept rolling. Now in Dallas he has the same role that he has filled adequately. Dallas overpaid slightly to get experience that will slot into their top 4.
- Jay Uller



It's a lot of money to spend on a 40 year old, especially over two years, for a team that has no chance of contending. It's a lot of money to spend on a 40 year old, especially over two years, for anyone.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:51 PM ET
Great for the PP brutal for even strength. Streit can still get you points on the PP but he can't be getting top pairing minutes overall. Absolute train wreck in his own zone and I like the guy and its not a typical bashing from a fan of a player who just left his team. Just the truth
- Vukota


Interesting. I have only seen him live 4 times in the last 2 years and I thought he was really good two ways. Must have been just good nights. Either way the Oilers have defensive forwards as well. Smid, Nick, Belov, Klefbom... He can rotate if it becomes a problem. Still I think overall with the age of the defensive core the Oilers have, a veteran like Streit would be a great player for them to play with. Right now the best dman these guys have played with is Smid.

Streit might not be the perfect fit but he is probably the Oilers only option.
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:51 PM ET
It's a horrible, horrible, horrible signing. Kicking off the summer (not even summer yet) with a totally retarded signing. idiots.
- Dirte


2 points behind Toronto's top point getting defenceman. 1 behind the 6.5 million dollar man.
Hall Fan
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 06.01.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:52 PM ET
Blues are interested in Miller. Nuff said, save your money.
- Jay Uller


Nicely played.
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:52 PM ET
It's a lot of money to spend on a 40 year old, especially over two years, for a team that has no chance of contending. It's a lot of money to spend on a 40 year old, especially over two years, for anyone.
- Dirte

Two years is nothing, Tim Connolololly showed us that. Gonchar has been just fine
RF_4eva
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Fosco's son, BC
Joined: 09.11.2012

Jun 8 @ 2:53 PM ET
Edler for brett conolly and their 1st round pick of this year
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:55 PM ET
2 points behind Toronto's top point getting defenceman. 1 behind the 6.5 million dollar man.
- Jay Uller



He's 40, and rarely plays a full season anymore. Calling this season a full season, it's the first he's played in 6 years. What are the chances they get a full season out of him this year? I wouldn't say they're very good.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 2:55 PM ET
Who cares about Hemsky (Oilers will probably get something decent in return maybe?) what Oiler fans want to know Ek is just who and what could MacT possibly get for Shawn Horcoff?
- Jodes


is this a joke? i sorta detect some sarcasm, but im not sure

we already know. nothing. its a buyout or he stays an oiler
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 2:56 PM ET
Two years is nothing, Tim Connolololly showed us that. Gonchar has been just fine
- Jay Uller



Yeah, Connolly was awesome.

I get the idea of filling a hole, and it not being a good deal on a short term contract, but he's 40. The chance of it working out is pretty minimal, on a two year deal.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 2:59 PM ET
Great for the PP brutal for even strength. Streit can still get you points on the PP but he can't be getting top pairing minutes overall. Absolute train wreck in his own zone and I like the guy and its not a typical bashing from a fan of a player who just left his team. Just the truth
- Vukota

good post.

he's a quality offensive dman, and we need help in all areas. but he certainly wouldn't be paired with Schultz 5v5.

second pairing with petry or smid most likely.
mact needs to make a trade too. streit cant be our only addition (along with possible rookies klefbom-prob needs a year in the A etc) to our backend.

and NOT at 5.5!!!
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 8 @ 3:00 PM ET
Interesting. I have only seen him live 4 times in the last 2 years and I thought he was really good two ways. Must have been just good nights. Either way the Oilers have defensive forwards as well. Smid, Nick, Belov, Klefbom... He can rotate if it becomes a problem. Still I think overall with the age of the defensive core the Oilers have, a veteran like Streit would be a great player for them to play with. Right now the best dman these guys have played with is Smid.

Streit might not be the perfect fit but he is probably the Oilers only option.

- bsteinley



I agree he'll help you in some areas and he'll hurt you in others. The Isles still wanted to sign him but they offered him 3 yrs at like 4.5 mil a year he knows he'll get 5 or 6 on the open market and the Isles aren't doing that
wooclaudegiroux
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 02.21.2013

Jun 8 @ 3:06 PM ET
If Gonchar got $5M, how much is Letang going to get? $7M?
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 8 @ 3:08 PM ET
He's 40, and rarely plays a full season anymore. Calling this season a full season, it's the first he's played in 6 years. What are the chances they get a full season out of him this year? I wouldn't say they're very good.
- Dirte


If you knew anything about the Stars, you'd know he's a huge upgrade and that his age and price are irrelevant.

He's a stop-gap defender. He will play a ton of top 4 minutes for us until guys like Oleksiak, Morrow, Nemeth, Gaunce, Connauton, etc are ready.
Jay Uller
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 09.27.2009

Jun 8 @ 3:09 PM ET
Yeah, Connolly was awesome.

I get the idea of filling a hole, and it not being a good deal on a short term contract, but he's 40. The chance of it working out is pretty minimal, on a two year deal.

- Dirte


age can't be seen as such a major sticking point when guys like Nabby, Jags, Lidstrom have all recently proven that age isn't everything. He wont be faced with much defensive minutes. If they use him as he should be he will be resonsible for putting pucks on net and generating rebounds. He won't be a guy that carries the team, but will be effective in areas Dallas needs to improve on, mainly the pp and generating offense from the backend which is thin after Gologoski (sp?)
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 8 @ 3:09 PM ET
If Gonchar got $5M, how much is Letang going to get? $7M?
- wooclaudegiroux


The way he played in the playoffs? I wouldnt
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 3:15 PM ET
If you knew anything about the Stars, you'd know he's a huge upgrade and that his age and price are irrelevant.

He's a stop-gap defender. He will play a ton of top 4 minutes for us until guys like Oleksiak, Morrow, Nemeth, Gaunce, Connauton, etc are ready.

- mochoson

well since your the self proclaimed expert on the stars; 'stop gaps' don't need to be paid 5 million a year.

and buddy didn't say he was terrible, he said chances are he wont be playing 82 games a year or close. seems like a lot to pay an oft injured 39 year old
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 3:15 PM ET
well since your the self proclaimed expert on the stars; 'stop gaps' don't need to be paid 5 million a year.

and buddy didn't say he was terrible, he said chances are he wont be playing 82 games a year or close. seems like a lot to pay an oft injured 39 year old

- hugefemale dog77



Nor do they need to be signed for 2 years.
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 8 @ 3:16 PM ET
The way he played in the playoffs? I wouldnt
- mochoson

well then you'd lose him, and he'd go be an elite defender on someone elses team
Jodes
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Canada
Joined: 07.04.2007

Jun 8 @ 3:16 PM ET
is this a joke? i sorta detect some sarcasm, but im not sure

we already know. nothing. its a buyout or he stays an oiler

- hugefemale dog77


Yes I was being sarcastic.. but do you actually think he's going to stay an Oiler after MacT threw him under the bus? I can't see it.
Dirte
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto, ON
Joined: 09.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 3:17 PM ET
The way he played in the playoffs? I wouldnt
- mochoson



So, you wouldn't pay a 26 year old Norris finalist $7m, but you'll pay a 39 year old broken down dman $5M?

If you knew anything about.... well, anything.... you would know that's pretty stupid.
Tuner
Vancouver Canucks
Location: coquitlam, BC
Joined: 12.02.2009

Jun 8 @ 3:17 PM ET



I will bet you one billion dollars, or any amount you want, that no one, and I mean absolutely no team will sign him for more than 8 years.
- Dirte



Yes we all get your new cba joke but careful, legally you said anyone and I wouldn't put anything past khl and malkin
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 8 @ 3:18 PM ET
The way he played in the playoffs? I wouldnt
- mochoson

Small sample size. Not even close to indicative of his overall game.
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