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VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:49 PM ET
Canuck fans have been talking about trading him for 3 years. Leaf fans are the same.
- djamon


Most fan bases do overvalue their players.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:50 PM ET
He just turned 32 in April. Meaning he'll be 32 all of next season.
- LeftCoaster

That contract scares me
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 8 @ 7:50 PM ET
No poop eh?

LA did get Gretzky for a song basically.....

- chompsey


Yah, I kind of figured you were being facetious. You never know, though, on this site
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 7:52 PM ET
I think Burrows true trade value wont be for 3 or 4 years. Could get a 1st or very good prospect from a team on a cup run.
- A_SteamingLombardi


I don't think any team will offer a 1st or even a prospect good enough to make it worth trading Burrows.
chompsey
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Cody Hodgson can walk on water
Joined: 10.04.2005

Jun 8 @ 7:53 PM ET
Hockey Rumours‏@NHL_Trade7m
#Flyers interested in Edler. #Canucks B. Schenn and Couturier

- VANTEL



Look who reads Hockeybuzz......
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 7:54 PM ET
Canuck fans have been talking about trading him for 3 years. Leaf fans are the same.
- djamon


Burrows?

Haven't heard too many people talking about trading him until recently.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 7:54 PM ET
That contract scares me
- VANTEL

He does it all, if he was allowed (under AV) to play on the PP he'd have even better stats. Kills penalties, great defensively, good team guy...I'm happy to have him. I could use less of his BS antics, but he's seemed to have cut that part of his game out.

He'll be 35 in the final year of his deal with a 3 million dollar salary, no big deal.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:55 PM ET
I think Burrows is the perfect 3rd liner down the road........hell knows he wont get traded at his price tag when he's 35....
- chompsey



Scooby said it best Burrows was great at 2 mil not so great at 4.5 Mil. He has earned it but it will hurt the Canucks going forward. I don't like having a 4.5 mil guy on the third line unless you have a great draft pick on the second line playing for 2 mil for the next few years.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 7:55 PM ET
That contract scares me
- VANTEL


You scare easily

Burrows is still very good at 4.5 million.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:56 PM ET
He does it all, if he was allowed (under AV) to play on the PP he'd have even better stats. Kills penalties, great defensively, good team guy...I'm happy to have him. I could use less of his BS antics, but he's seemed to have cut that part of his game out.

He'll be 35 in the final year of his deal with a 3 million dollar salary, no big deal.

- LeftCoaster



I love Burrows but the contract still scares me after next year. I am waiting for the bottom to fall (being the optomist that I am )
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 7:57 PM ET
You scare easily

Burrows is still very good at 4.5 million.

- Fosco



We will see after next year when it will be too late if it does fail.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 7:58 PM ET
Scooby said it best Burrows was great at 2 mil not so great at 4.5 Mil. He has earned it but it will hurt the Canucks going forward. I don't like having a 4.5 mil guy on the third line unless you have a great draft pick on the second line playing for 2 mil for the next few years.
- VANTEL


Burrows is still great at 4.5.

I question the judgement of anyone that watches him regularly and disagrees.

Might not be in four years, but you cross that bridge when you come to it.

I have a feeling he'll still be contributing enough at the end of his contract to earn his salary—plus the cap will likely go up.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 8 @ 8:00 PM ET
We will see after next year when it will be too late if it does fail.
- VANTEL


The thing is, there are always at least a few signs that a player is trending down. I have yet to see any with respect to Burrows' play. I think he'll be fine for the next few years, minimum.
djamon
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Victoria, BC
Joined: 05.27.2013

Jun 8 @ 8:02 PM ET
Burrows?

Haven't heard too many people talking about trading him until recently.

- Fosco


No, sorry. Raymond.
Zogg
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 09.16.2005

Jun 8 @ 8:02 PM ET
Burrows is still great at 4.5.

I question the judgement of anyone that watches him regularly and disagrees.

Might not be in four years, but you cross that bridge when you come to it.

I have a feeling he'll still be contributing enough at the end of his contract to earn his salary—plus the cap will likely go up.

- Fosco


And like you noted earlier, there is no way we would get a decent enough return for him to justify trading him.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:03 PM ET
The thing is, there are always at least a few signs that a player is trending down. I have yet to see any with respect to Burrows' play. I think he'll be fine for the next few years, minimum.
- Zogg



I thought he looked slower this year.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
We will see after next year when it will be too late if it does fail.
- VANTEL


Why will it be too late?

Players waive their NTCs all the time. You're making too big of an issue out of this.

And it's not like it will be a rebuilding team that will try to trade for him in the future.

It'll be a good team looking for veteran help to make a push for the cup—why would he not waive.

Any scenario where the Canucks entertain trading him will likely mean their not contenders.

I personally hope he retires a Canuck.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
I thought he looked slower this year.
- VANTEL

Your eyes just don't move as fast as they used to?
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:04 PM ET
Burrows is still great at 4.5.

I question the judgement of anyone that watches him regularly and disagrees.

Might not be in four years, but you cross that bridge when you come to it.

I have a feeling he'll still be contributing enough at the end of his contract to earn his salary—plus the cap will likely go up.

- Fosco



We often disagree. I think half his contract will be ok and half we will regret like we have done in the past with Naslunds Bemitras Samuelssons and many of the older players that we reward with late contracts.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:05 PM ET
No, sorry. Raymond.
- djamon


Oh. Agreed.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:05 PM ET
We often disagree. I think half his contract will be ok and half we will regret like we have done in the past with Naslunds Bemitras Samuelssons and many of the older players that we reward with late contracts.
- VANTEL


I don't think the Canucks regretted any of the contracts you listed.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:06 PM ET
Your eyes just don't move as fast as they used to?
- LeftCoaster



My eyes are fine . I watch all the young ass on Robson and never miss
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

Jun 8 @ 8:07 PM ET
I don't think the Canucks regretted any of the contracts you listed.
- Fosco


I do. The final year of all those contracts most people were here saying those players come off the books next year. That is why none of them were extended past .
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

Jun 8 @ 8:08 PM ET
The thing is, there are always at least a few signs that a player is trending down. I have yet to see any with respect to Burrows' play. I think he'll be fine for the next few years, minimum.
- Zogg


Agreed.
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 8 @ 8:08 PM ET
My eyes are fine . I watch all the young ass on Robson and never miss
- VANTEL

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