If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.
- mochoson

?
Is is your contention that players haven ever been overpaid ?
What one signs for is the absolute minimum he could been had for? Or more to the point worth?
Yeah no.

I dont believe dallas is as good as ottawa, i dont dallas is better than very many teams in the nhl at all. take it for what its worth. How is it a fallacy? Ur entitled to your opinion, but the results dont agreewith said opinion.

If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.
- mochoson

is it your contention that players haven ever been overpaid ?
What one signs for is the absolute minimum he could been had for?
Yeah no.

I dont believe dallas is as good as ottawa, and i dont dallas is better than very many teams in the nhl at all. take it for what its worth. How is it a fallacy? Ur entitled to your opinion, but the results dont agree with said opinion

If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.
- laughs2907

is it your contention that players haven ever been overpaid ?
What one signs for is the absolute minimum he could been had for? Or more to the point worth
Yeah no.

I dont believe dallas is as good as ottawa, and dont think dallas is better than very many teams in the nhl at all. take it for what its worth. How is it a fallacy? Ur entitled to your opinion, but the results dont agree with said opinion

is it your contention that players haven ever been overpaid ?
What one signs for is the absolute minimum he could been had for? Or more to the point worth
Yeah no.

I dont believe dallas is as good as ottawa, and dont think dallas is better than very many teams in the nhl at all. take it for what its worth. How is it a fallacy? Ur entitled to your opinion, but the results dont agree with said opinion
- hugefemale dog77

If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.

I think you have to be very careful when it comes to acquiring draft picks. Look at Larson for New Jersey, look at the hype that came with this player. Look at Jersey's defense and he can barely make the team.
Every year its the same, if you pick this player all your troubles are over. Experts say you wont get a 1st round pick for Hemsky, ask yourself this how many players taken in the 20-30 pick in the last 5 years have more PPG than Hemsky , there will be a few, most of those players will have less. When you get to the second round that numbers dwindles even more. When you look at the top d men in the league only 1 or 2 of these players were picked in the top ten at the draft.
I would like to see the Oilers trade down. Send Hemsky to another team along with your 7th pick for 2 1st round picks. Probably Columbus would be a good bet.
- vanlee

larsson's only 20. Only great D men flourish in the NHL at 20. Dougie Hamilton and Brodin have the benefit of playing with Chara and Suter

I didn't say single handedly. I said biggest reason and most valuable player to his team. and again, this is the definition of a hart trophy candidate.

if you're going to accuse me of not being able to come up with my own opinion without the media telling me whats what, that's fine. but at least learn to read the post.
and on the flip side, if you don't agree Tavares was by far and away the best player on the isles, ill wager you haven seen much of NYI
- hugefemale dog77

Never said he wasn't the best player on NYI. He is by a mile. But the reason NYI made the playoffs was because of great team efforts. Tavares didn't produce more than Hall and his value is on offence.

I'd also wager you don't watch NYI often seeing as we're EDM fans

I thought you were dead
- Lahey

Funny thing i was close 3 times. I got really sick and found out I had lukemia. I went thru 3 rounds of chemo. He'll the. U of A had no fricken wifi. So I had to miss you boys until yesterday when I was released, I went in march 9th

Funny thing i was close 3 times. I got really sick and found out I had lukemia. I went thru 3 rounds of chemo. He'll the. U of A had no fricken wifi. So I had to miss you boys until yesterday when I was released, I went in march 9th
- longbottom

Woooaahhh... Hope you're feeling better, LB!

Woooaahhh... Hope you're feeling better, LB!
- laughs2907

Yes other than being bald.......lol

Yes other than being bald.......lol
- longbottom

I'm sure you'll get that back (if you want) -- John Locke looked 10x cooler bald.

I'm sure you'll get that back (if you want) -- John Locke looked 10x cooler bald.
- laughs2907

Ya I miss my hair, but this bald look is sort of cool

Ya I miss my hair, but this bald look is sort of cool
- longbottom

It worked for Jordan as well. I'm sure you'll get it back though.

If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.
- laughs2907

is it your contention that players haven ever been overpaid ?
What one signs for is the absolute minimum he could been had for? Or more to the point worth?
Yeah no.

I dont believe dallas is as good as ottawa, and dont think dallas is better than very many teams in the nhl at all. take it for what its worth. How is it a fallacy? Ur entitled to your opinion, but the results dont agree with said opinion

Never said he wasn't the best player on NYI. He is by a mile. But the reason NYI made the playoffs was because of great team efforts. Tavares didn't produce more than Hall and his value is on offence.

I'd also wager you don't watch NYI often seeing as we're EDM fans
- TheNugeIsHuge

you're still missing the point. do I think Pittsburgh only wins cause of Crosby? of course not. nor do I think the isles don't have 20 other players that contributed. but one player contributed the most to their success.

comparing player to player and who's better or had more points still isn't the bottom line when it comes to the hart trophy.

but what does matter is ones contribution to his team. and generally speaking that team needed to have some success.
which is why hall wouldn't get consideration.
i'm not saying he's way better than hall, or is better than Crosby. these things don't matter. hall isn't even worth mentioning in this debate.

is it your contention that players haven ever been overpaid ?
What one signs for is the absolute minimum he could been had for? Or more to the point worth?
Yeah no.

I dont believe dallas is as good as ottawa, and dont think dallas is better than very many teams in the nhl at all. take it for what its worth. How is it a fallacy? Ur entitled to your opinion, but the results dont agree with said opinion
- hugefemale dog77

you're still missing the point. do I think Pittsburgh only wins cause of Crosby? of course not. nor do I think the isles don't have 20 other players that contributed. but one player contributed the most to their success.

comparing player to player and who's better or had more points still isn't the bottom line when it comes to the hart trophy.

but what does matter is ones contribution to his team. and generally speaking that team needed to have some success.
which is why hall wouldn't get consideration.
i'm not saying he's way better than hall, or is better than Crosby. these things don't matter. hall isn't even worth mentioning in this debate.

you're still missing the point. do I think Pittsburgh only wins cause of Crosby? of course not. nor do I think the isles don't have 20 other players that contributed. but one player contributed the most to their success.

comparing player to player and who's better or had more points still isn't the bottom line when it comes to the hart trophy.

but what does matter is ones contribution to his team. and generally speaking that team needed to have some success.
which is why hall wouldn't get consideration.
i'm not saying he's way better than hall, or is better than Crosby. these things don't matter. hall isn't even worth mentioning in this debate.
- laughs2907

you're still missing the point. do I think Pittsburgh only wins cause of Crosby? of course not. nor do I think the isles don't have 20 other players that contributed. but one player contributed the most to their success.

comparing player to player and who's better or had more points still isn't the bottom line when it comes to the hart trophy.

but what does matter is ones contribution to his team. and generally speaking that team needed to have some success.
which is why hall wouldn't get consideration.
i'm not saying he's way better than hall, or is better than Crosby. these things don't matter. hall isn't even worth mentioning in this debate.

- A number of bloggers from Hockeybuzz got together yesterday and did a mock draft. It will be interesting to see how readers react to the results. I picked last, and was thrilled with the six players I came away with

Yeah right

you're still missing the point. do I think Pittsburgh only wins cause of Crosby? of course not. nor do I think the isles don't have 20 other players that contributed. but one player contributed the most to their success.

comparing player to player and who's better or had more points still isn't the bottom line when it comes to the hart trophy.

but what does matter is ones contribution to his team. and generally speaking that team needed to have some success.
which is why hall wouldn't get consideration.
i'm not saying he's way better than hall, or is better than Crosby. these things don't matter. hall isn't even worth mentioning in this debate.
- hugefemale dog77

larsson's only 20. Only great D men flourish in the NHL at 20. Dougie Hamilton and Brodin have the benefit of playing with Chara and Suter

larsson's only 20. Only great D men flourish in the NHL at 20. Dougie Hamilton and Brodin have the benefit of playing with Chara and Suter
- laughs2907

but they won a cup in 2001

but they won a cup in 2001
- hugefemale dog77

Okay, so the Oilers are going to try to deal Ales Hemsky and Shawn Horcoff. Shall I try to predict what the Oilers can acquire for each?

Shawn Horcoff
I'll start with the harder one to analyze. I think he has no trade value and the Oilers will need to use a compliance buyout on him. Some people are saying, "he could still play for the Oilers if there's no deal for him." Give your head a shake. Do you think Shawn is going to want to play for the Oilers after the GM publicly said it's time for him to go? He's never coming back.

But what's he worth in a deal? That's the bigger and uglier question.

He's a "negative value"' trade. Meaning, the Oilers would need to take back a bad contract to move him. Or, they'd need to swallow some of his contract (the new CBA allows this, I believe...but don't ask me to explain how it works).

The one thing working in Horcoff's favor is, his actual contract amount is lower than his cap hit. A poorer team could deal for him as a way of keeping themselves above the cap floor without actually spending that much.

Nashville Predators, New Jersey Devils, Florida Panthers, Phoenix Coyotes...are all possible destinations as a cap bumper-upper. My gut tells me Florida could be possible, as they have a few ugly contracts they might want to clear. Scottie Upshall, perhaps? Can that guy even play anymore?

If the there's any deal to be had for Horcoff, it's going to suck and help the Oilers in no measurable way. Maybe the only deal to be made here is for Roberto Luongo, and just by writing that, I've broken out it hives.

Just buy him out. Who cares.

Ales Hemsky
This is perhaps the more interesting discussion because there might, somewhere, be interest in him. The Oilers could approach this one of two ways. I'm not sure there is a right answer here. Judge for yourselves.

First idea could be to move Hemsky at the draft for the best pick possible. This likely means a 2nd rounder, but now that Hemsky has officially been fire saled, his value could drop further. Sad, I know. We all know Hemsky is a better player than a 2nd round pick, but his injury history and lack of production in recent years, plus healthy contract, make him tough to move.

More realistically, Hemsky will be part of a bigger trade that will see the Oilers pick up a Top 9 forward or a backup goaltender...or both. My guess is, the Oilers could pick up a decent player in the process, but they'll need to eat a contract too. I used the example of Rene Bourque from Montreal the other day. He still has three years left at a $3.33mil cap hit, which is healthy for a guy who had only 13pts last season. Upside with Bourque is, he has size, and could fit into a Top 9 wingers role better than Hemsky would.

Pick any team at random that has an oversized contract they'd like to dump. Add to that a high draft pick or decent prospect. Move those two assets for Hemsky. An example? Ville Leino and Mark Pysyk from Buffalo. The Oilers can play Leino for a season, then buy him out next summer. Pysyk is the defensive prospect of quality they get for being willing to eat Leino's cap hit with a compliance buyout. Genius!

No matter who or what the Oilers acquire from moving Hemsky and Horcoff, fans aren't going to be thrilled by the return.

Randoms

- Rumor is, a bunch of teams are willing to trade down. This opens the door for the Oilers to trade up. Don't believe the hype; GM's are just fishing. This year's draft has a very clearly defined Top 6 group. Actually, there's a Top 3 (MacKinnon, Drouin and Jones) and a second top tier (Barkov, Monahan and Nichushkin). The only way a team in the Top 6 trades down is if they either have a "vision" regarding one of the other prospects, or if the team moving up offers a ridiculous return.

Some people say to me, "the Oilers could deal Hemsky to move up". That's not going to work. Hemsky + the Oilers 1st round pick (7th overall) doesn't equal, let's say, Carolina's 1st round pick (5th overall). Maybe put Gagner in there instead of Hemsky and you could have something...but that would be an overpayment, would it not?

- I think the Oilers are going to take their chances that one of Carolina or Calgary does something crazy. With respect to the Hurricanes, they need defense. Seth Jones will be gone already, so the question is, would they use their 1st round pick on someone named Nurse, Ristolainen or Zadorov? And what about the Flames...Will they be tempted to take the perhaps more offensively-skilled Elias Lindholm over big Sean Monahan?

It's extremely obvious that the Oilers are wanting to draft a big center more than anything else. If fate smiles upon them, they'll gladly take winger Valeri Nishushkin if he's still available. Everyone seems convinced that the Oilers are going to take a defenseman...Darnell Nurse in particular...but the people suggesting it seem oblivious to the Oilers prospect situation. The future on D is okay for the Oilers. The future up front, especially at center, is questionable. With Horcoff on the way out, the Oilers would be best served by finding his replacement at the draft.

- A number of bloggers from Hockeybuzz got together yesterday and did a mock draft. It will be interesting to see how readers react to the results. I picked last, and was thrilled with the six players I came away with.

- I think it's completely possible the Oilers could move their two 2nd round picks in an effort to acquire a second 1st round pick. As the mock draft we completed will show, a number of quality players were still around at spots 25-30.

- Lots of talk about the Oilers going UFA hunting this summer. Bryan "Fernando Pisani 2.0" Bickell keeps being mentioned. Yes, he's a big winger who is having an amazing playoffs. He also has a career-high in the regular season of 17g. Didn't Ryan Jones do that before? Jones would cost the Oilers $1.5mil to keep. Bickell is going to go at $3.5mil per thanks to his playoff performance this season. Pass.

- UFA's the Oilers would look at? Tyler Bozak has to be the top of the list. Perfect 2/3 center as this team moves forward. Nathan Horton has to be on the list, too. Yes, he's a RW. Fine. Nail Yakupov can play the left side. Situation solved. Relax people.

- David Clarkson, Ryan Clowe, and Mark Streit are possible additions. The Oilers, especially once they jettison Hemsky and Horcoff, will have cap room to spare. The UFA crop is very weak this season, so it's possible competition is going to be huge, and contracts for the decent players will be oversized. As much as the Oilers need to add some talent, it's not in their best interests to overpay people.

- Backup goalie talk: Apparently, MacT still thinks the Oilers can find a decent guy from a European league. So you can forget about the Oilers dealing for Bernier or signing a UFA like Mike Smith. The Oilers are prepared to give Devan Dubnyk one more season to show he can be their starter.

Okay, so the Oilers are going to try to deal Ales Hemsky and Shawn Horcoff. Shall I try to predict what the Oilers can acquire for each?

Shawn Horcoff
I'll start with the harder one to analyze. I think he has no trade value and the Oilers will need to use a compliance buyout on him. Some people are saying, "he could still play for the Oilers if there's no deal for him." Give your head a shake. Do you think Shawn is going to want to play for the Oilers after the GM publicly said it's time for him to go? He's never coming back.

But what's he worth in a deal? That's the bigger and uglier question.

He's a "negative value"' trade. Meaning, the Oilers would need to take back a bad contract to move him. Or, they'd need to swallow some of his contract (the new CBA allows this, I believe...but don't ask me to explain how it works).

The one thing working in Horcoff's favor is, his actual contract amount is lower than his cap hit. A poorer team could deal for him as a way of keeping themselves above the cap floor without actually spending that much.

Nashville Predators, New Jersey Devils, Florida Panthers, Phoenix Coyotes...are all possible destinations as a cap bumper-upper. My gut tells me Florida could be possible, as they have a few ugly contracts they might want to clear. Scottie Upshall, perhaps? Can that guy even play anymore?

If the there's any deal to be had for Horcoff, it's going to suck and help the Oilers in no measurable way. Maybe the only deal to be made here is for Roberto Luongo, and just by writing that, I've broken out it hives.

Just buy him out. Who cares.

Ales Hemsky
This is perhaps the more interesting discussion because there might, somewhere, be interest in him. The Oilers could approach this one of two ways. I'm not sure there is a right answer here. Judge for yourselves.

First idea could be to move Hemsky at the draft for the best pick possible. This likely means a 2nd rounder, but now that Hemsky has officially been fire saled, his value could drop further. Sad, I know. We all know Hemsky is a better player than a 2nd round pick, but his injury history and lack of production in recent years, plus healthy contract, make him tough to move.

More realistically, Hemsky will be part of a bigger trade that will see the Oilers pick up a Top 9 forward or a backup goaltender...or both. My guess is, the Oilers could pick up a decent player in the process, but they'll need to eat a contract too. I used the example of Rene Bourque from Montreal the other day. He still has three years left at a $3.33mil cap hit, which is healthy for a guy who had only 13pts last season. Upside with Bourque is, he has size, and could fit into a Top 9 wingers role better than Hemsky would.

Pick any team at random that has an oversized contract they'd like to dump. Add to that a high draft pick or decent prospect. Move those two assets for Hemsky. An example? Ville Leino and Mark Pysyk from Buffalo. The Oilers can play Leino for a season, then buy him out next summer. Pysyk is the defensive prospect of quality they get for being willing to eat Leino's cap hit with a compliance buyout. Genius!

No matter who or what the Oilers acquire from moving Hemsky and Horcoff, fans aren't going to be thrilled by the return.

Randoms

- Rumor is, a bunch of teams are willing to trade down. This opens the door for the Oilers to trade up. Don't believe the hype; GM's are just fishing. This year's draft has a very clearly defined Top 6 group. Actually, there's a Top 3 (MacKinnon, Drouin and Jones) and a second top tier (Barkov, Monahan and Nichushkin). The only way a team in the Top 6 trades down is if they either have a "vision" regarding one of the other prospects, or if the team moving up offers a ridiculous return.

Some people say to me, "the Oilers could deal Hemsky to move up". That's not going to work. Hemsky + the Oilers 1st round pick (7th overall) doesn't equal, let's say, Carolina's 1st round pick (5th overall). Maybe put Gagner in there instead of Hemsky and you could have something...but that would be an overpayment, would it not?

- I think the Oilers are going to take their chances that one of Carolina or Calgary does something crazy. With respect to the Hurricanes, they need defense. Seth Jones will be gone already, so the question is, would they use their 1st round pick on someone named Nurse, Ristolainen or Zadorov? And what about the Flames...Will they be tempted to take the perhaps more offensively-skilled Elias Lindholm over big Sean Monahan?

It's extremely obvious that the Oilers are wanting to draft a big center more than anything else. If fate smiles upon them, they'll gladly take winger Valeri Nishushkin if he's still available. Everyone seems convinced that the Oilers are going to take a defenseman...Darnell Nurse in particular...but the people suggesting it seem oblivious to the Oilers prospect situation. The future on D is okay for the Oilers. The future up front, especially at center, is questionable. With Horcoff on the way out, the Oilers would be best served by finding his replacement at the draft.

- A number of bloggers from Hockeybuzz got together yesterday and did a mock draft. It will be interesting to see how readers react to the results. I picked last, and was thrilled with the six players I came away with.

- I think it's completely possible the Oilers could move their two 2nd round picks in an effort to acquire a second 1st round pick. As the mock draft we completed will show, a number of quality players were still around at spots 25-30.

- Lots of talk about the Oilers going UFA hunting this summer. Bryan "Fernando Pisani 2.0" Bickell keeps being mentioned. Yes, he's a big winger who is having an amazing playoffs. He also has a career-high in the regular season of 17g. Didn't Ryan Jones do that before? Jones would cost the Oilers $1.5mil to keep. Bickell is going to go at $3.5mil per thanks to his playoff performance this season. Pass.

- UFA's the Oilers would look at? Tyler Bozak has to be the top of the list. Perfect 2/3 center as this team moves forward. Nathan Horton has to be on the list, too. Yes, he's a RW. Fine. Nail Yakupov can play the left side. Situation solved. Relax people.

- David Clarkson, Ryan Clowe, and Mark Streit are possible additions. The Oilers, especially once they jettison Hemsky and Horcoff, will have cap room to spare. The UFA crop is very weak this season, so it's possible competition is going to be huge, and contracts for the decent players will be oversized. As much as the Oilers need to add some talent, it's not in their best interests to overpay people.

- Backup goalie talk: Apparently, MacT still thinks the Oilers can find a decent guy from a European league. So you can forget about the Oilers dealing for Bernier or signing a UFA like Mike Smith. The Oilers are prepared to give Devan Dubnyk one more season to show he can be their starter.
- laughs2907

Craig MacTavish said to Mark Spector on Team 1260 today that it's time for Shawn Horcoff and Ales Hemsky to boo boo away.

The Oilers new GM said the team is going to try to trade both this summer. They'll find a deal for Hemsky, but not for Horcoff. Both deals either way will result in the Oilers getting pennies on the dollar for the players, which is bad. As I've been saying for months, Horcoff will be gone via compliance buyout because the Oilers won't have any other option.

Of course, people are annoyingly oppositional. I explained what is going to happen on Twitter, and immediately, I got arguments from everyone. "MacT said "trade", not buyout!" There is no trade to be made. Sorry friends.

Some goof tried to tell me the Oilers will play Horcoff if they can't trade him. Do you really think he's gonna want to play in Edmonton after MacT has went public to say the team wants to unload him? It's the point of no return, people. One way or another, Ales Hemsky and Shawn Horcoff will never play in Edmonton again.

With respect to my earlier blog, I think I need to draw people a picture, as some are extremely confused as to what I was trying to explain. Here goes:

Oilers Line-Up - Ideal

L1: Hall - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
L2: Big Top 6 Winger (Horton perhaps) - Gagner - Yakupov
L3: Paajarvi - Big 3rd Line two-way Center - Hartikainen or a better option (if possible)
L4: Who cares

D1: Star (maybe Klefbom eventually) - Justin Schultz
D2: Ladislav Smid - Jeff Petry
D3: Belov - Nick Schultz

G1: A proven starter (Dubnyk, if he can develop correctly and soon)
G2: Some random decent backup. Who cares

See what I am saying?

Up front, this is more about the 3rd line than anything else. The Oilers need to get bigger, more hungry, more dirty, and meaner.

On D, the hole exists for a true #1 defenseman, but Klefbom might be the solution in time. And who knows where Anton Belov fits? He is suppose to be the best defenseman in the KHL. Maybe he comes here and is amazing. Stranger things have happened.

In goal, the Oilers can only afford to wait on Dubey greatness for one more season. If he doesn't put it together by the end of 2013/2014, it's time to bring in a true starter

Craig MacTavish said to Mark Spector on Team 1260 today that it's time for Shawn Horcoff and Ales Hemsky to boo boo away.

The Oilers new GM said the team is going to try to trade both this summer. They'll find a deal for Hemsky, but not for Horcoff. Both deals either way will result in the Oilers getting pennies on the dollar for the players, which is bad. As I've been saying for months, Horcoff will be gone via compliance buyout because the Oilers won't have any other option.

Of course, people are annoyingly oppositional. I explained what is going to happen on Twitter, and immediately, I got arguments from everyone. "MacT said "trade", not buyout!" There is no trade to be made. Sorry friends.

Some goof tried to tell me the Oilers will play Horcoff if they can't trade him. Do you really think he's gonna want to play in Edmonton after MacT has went public to say the team wants to unload him? It's the point of no return, people. One way or another, Ales Hemsky and Shawn Horcoff will never play in Edmonton again.

With respect to my earlier blog, I think I need to draw people a picture, as some are extremely confused as to what I was trying to explain. Here goes:

Oilers Line-Up - Ideal

L1: Hall - Nugent-Hopkins - Eberle
L2: Big Top 6 Winger (Horton perhaps) - Gagner - Yakupov
L3: Paajarvi - Big 3rd Line two-way Center - Hartikainen or a better option (if possible)
L4: Who cares

D1: Star (maybe Klefbom eventually) - Justin Schultz
D2: Ladislav Smid - Jeff Petry
D3: Belov - Nick Schultz

G1: A proven starter (Dubnyk, if he can develop correctly and soon)
G2: Some random decent backup. Who cares

See what I am saying?

Up front, this is more about the 3rd line than anything else. The Oilers need to get bigger, more hungry, more dirty, and meaner.

On D, the hole exists for a true #1 defenseman, but Klefbom might be the solution in time. And who knows where Anton Belov fits? He is suppose to be the best defenseman in the KHL. Maybe he comes here and is amazing. Stranger things have happened.

In goal, the Oilers can only afford to wait on Dubey greatness for one more season. If he doesn't put it together by the end of 2013/2014, it's time to bring in a true starter
- hugefemale dog77

You fail to mention that the year prior the the Flyers being in last place they were 5th in the conference. Flyers had Forsberg, Knuble, Hatcher, Carter miss significant time with injury in 06-07. The stars just aren't that talented IMO.

You fail to mention that the year prior the the Flyers being in last place they were 5th in the conference. Flyers had Forsberg, Knuble, Hatcher, Carter miss significant time with injury in 06-07. The stars just aren't that talented IMO.
- laughs2907

ignorance.
Jamie benn was drafted in the 5th round and was born in Victoria. not only that, but he actually struggled to to make the whl and was forced to play in the bcjhl as 15 year old.
he then graduated to the Kelowna rockets the following season

ignorance.
Jamie benn was drafted in the 5th round and was born in Victoria. not only that, but he actually struggled to to make the whl and was forced to play in the bcjhl as 15 year old.
he then graduated to the Kelowna rockets the following season
- hugefemale dog77

I am not sure why people thought the Flames were going to get a lot for Iggy. His NTC basically destroyed his value in terms of return. The teams that knew they were in the hunt weren't going to offer their best knowing he would choose where he wanted to go.

I am just glad we got something! Now Feaster can use that extra first rounder on some high school kid from Argentina that he saw play when he was on some holiday.

I am not sure why people thought the Flames were going to get a lot for Iggy. His NTC basically destroyed his value in terms of return. The teams that knew they were in the hunt weren't going to offer their best knowing he would choose where he wanted to go.

I am just glad we got something! Now Feaster can use that extra first rounder on some high school kid from Argentina that he saw play when he was on some holiday.
- laughs2907

you win. this was a far too sound and logical argument for me to retort.. I have no rebuttal