gonchar 2 yrs@ 10

jesus fuk. streits gonna be asking 5.5.

i was interested in signing streit, but not at that price for anything more than a year.
mact doesn't have a lot of options in the free agent pool, but he should walk away from this one if that's the price
- hugefemale dog77

Not sure why it's so bad to be honest. Tied for 12th in points by a d-man this year. 21st last year. Played a big role in getting OTT into the playoffs this year.

Worse part in my book is he is coming to the west. But the contract itself is far from horrible.

I think you have to be very careful when it comes to acquiring draft picks. Look at Larson for New Jersey, look at the hype that came with this player. Look at Jersey's defense and he can barely make the team.
Every year its the same, if you pick this player all your troubles are over. Experts say you wont get a 1st round pick for Hemsky, ask yourself this how many players taken in the 20-30 pick in the last 5 years have more PPG than Hemsky , there will be a few, most of those players will have less. When you get to the second round that numbers dwindles even more. When you look at the top d men in the league only 1 or 2 of these players were picked in the top ten at the draft.
I would like to see the Oilers trade down. Send Hemsky to another team along with your 7th pick for 2 1st round picks. Probably Columbus would be a good bet.
- vanlee

i keep hearing this about Larsson. is he that bad? id love to take a run at him. and i bet nj is far less willing to give up on him than it seems many fans are.

look, lets keep it honest. Oilers are my 2nd favorite team. What do you realisty think Hemsky is getting? I love horcoff but I doubt teams are touching the $5.5 cap hit unless a contract is coming back.

I always love ales' stick work but this isn't 2006 and if he couldn't get it done with edmonton's cast, how will he say with Turris or Spezza?
- AlfieisKing

I realisty think Hemsky will bring in a mid-range 2nd rounder... He has talent, but he's a wussy, and will continue to miss a lot of time.

i keep hearing this about Larsson. is he that bad? id love to take a run at him. and i bet nj is far less willing to give up on him than it seems many fans are.
- hugefemale dog77

If you look at his age (compared to their other top d-men), the amount of minutes he plays (compared to their other top d-men) and his stats (compared to their other top d-men) you'll see that the Devils think pretty highly of Larsson... I read a couple of Devil's fans suggest our 7th for him... If that opportunity presented itself, I'd take it and run.

it's getting there, but who knows, vanek is type cast as a scorer, who's not clutch, at 7mil, he's not an elite player overall. so easy on his value
- DrinkOil

"Not clutch"? Where's the proof of that? He's a top notch scorer.

Not sure why it's so bad to be honest. Tied for 12th in points by a d-man this year. 21st last year. Played a big role in getting OTT into the playoffs this year.

Worse part in my book is he is coming to the west. But the contract itself is far from horrible.
- Lahey

Spot on

I realisty think Hemsky will bring in a mid-range 2nd rounder... He has talent, but he's a wussy, and will continue to miss a lot of time.
- laughs2907

Ek is just reporting there are teams interested in Hemsky. Not the ones I would have thought but plausible. He also said Miller was going to St. Louis so it might not have and basis in reality.

Still if there are rumors of teams asking and their is a bidding war, we could easily get a second round pick for him. If you look past the injuries like NYR did with Gonchar, he is a top 6 player and there aren't many of them on the market. I would want the Oilers to keep him if we didn't have such tiny guys all around him.

He also finally reported what I have been suggesting. The Oilers trading for the rights for Streit. We still haven't made the rumor chart for any dman other than Whitney so again it might be fake but at least the thought is out there now.

Anybody who can put up 49 points at 18 years old shouldn't be so expendable. He might have value, but when he's scoring 75 points a year in a few years, it's going to look quite bad for EDM.

It's as if having other more talented forwards on the roster somehow makes Gagner less talented. That is not true. He might have value, but that's because he's 23 years old and teams know he's only going to start putting up more points as he gets into his mid-to-late 20's (aka prime years).
- isles10289

not if you get a good player that fills a hole better than Gagner. this is the exact reason the team is not progressing and why Tambo got fired. Too afraid to look bad later. would you trade Gagner for a Bickel-type or a 2nd pairing D? Gagner may turn out to be better, but both is much more needed on this team. so many of the Oilers, by themselves, are pretty good. but as a whole, the team is terrible, so why are we so in love with the players? Tambo couldn't get passed the attributes of his players as individuals, and this was his downfall.

Not sure why it's so bad to be honest. Tied for 12th in points by a d-man this year. 21st last year. Played a big role in getting OTT into the playoffs this year.

Worse part in my book is he is coming to the west. But the contract itself is far from horrible.
- Lahey

well i didn't neccasarily say it was terrible. i said streit's worth more imo, and this will drive his price up. and i don't want to throw a ton of money at streit. he'll help, but he aint worth 5.5 imo.

but if your looking to debate the subject.

gonchar's gonna be 41 when his contract is up.
dallas isn't as strong a team as Ottawa, look for those numbers to go down (possibly drastically) for both reasons.
dallas almost looks like it was a team attempting a mini rebuild by selling jagr, morrow etc. not making moves towards the playoffs.
seems like a sideways move. move for 39 year old jagr - fail and trade him - then move for 39 year old gonchar.

plus, i certainly believe gonchar coulda been had for less than 5 million

Ek is just reporting there are teams interested in Hemsky. Not the ones I would have thought but plausible. He also said Miller was going to St. Louis so it might not have and basis in reality.

Still if there are rumors of teams asking and their is a bidding war, we could easily get a second round pick for him. If you look past the injuries like NYR did with Gonchar, he is a top 6 player and there aren't many of them on the market. I would want the Oilers to keep him if we didn't have such tiny guys all around him.

He also finally reported what I have been suggesting. The Oilers trading for the rights for Streit. We still haven't made the rumor chart for any dman other than Whitney so again it might be fake but at least the thought is out there now.
- bsteinley

well i didn't neccasarily say it was terrible. i said streit's worth more imo, and this will drive his price up. and i don't want to throw a ton of money at streit. he'll help, but he aint worth 5.5 imo.

but if your looking to debate the subject.

gonchar's gonna be 41 when his contract is up.
dallas isn't as strong a team as Ottawa, look for those numbers to go down (possibly drastically) for both reasons.
dallas almost looks like it was a team attempting a mini rebuild by selling jagr, morrow etc. not making moves towards the playoffs.
seems like a sideways move. move for 39 year old jagr - fail and trade him - then move for 39 year old gonchar.

plus, i certainly believe gonchar coulda been had for less than 5 million
- hugefemale dog77

You said "jesus fuk" though...

well i didn't neccasarily say it was terrible. i said streit's worth more imo, and this will drive his price up. and i don't want to throw a ton of money at streit. he'll help, but he aint worth 5.5 imo.

but if your looking to debate the subject.

gonchar's gonna be 41 when his contract is up.
dallas isn't as strong a team as Ottawa, look for those numbers to go down (possibly drastically) for both reasons.
dallas almost looks like it was a team attempting a mini rebuild by selling jagr, morrow etc. not making moves towards the playoffs.
seems like a sideways move. move for 39 year old jagr - fail and trade him - then move for 39 year old gonchar.

plus, i certainly believe gonchar coulda been had for less than 5 million
- hugefemale dog77

I don't know Benn and Eriksson is probably better than what Gonchar had to work with this year. That and it's obvious Dallas isn't done.

You believe what you want, but it's more than likely doubtful. Especially if someone is willing to give that money a month before free agency. Even if it was less it wouldn't have been that much less. What 4.5mil?

And what the (frank) is with gay pride today?

I had to turn the radio off as it's (frank)ing annoying already.

You said "jesus fuk" though...
- laughs2907

i did

i did
- hugefemale dog77

i think it's suppose to be lurd thanduring jesus

I guess this is a red black.

Ottawa really falls into that whole East of WPG theory.

I guess this is a red black.

Ottawa really falls into that whole East of WPG theory.
- Lahey

Whoever designed that piece of sh1t probably got a million bucks.

well i didn't neccasarily say it was terrible. i said streit's worth more imo, and this will drive his price up. and i don't want to throw a ton of money at streit. he'll help, but he aint worth 5.5 imo.

but if your looking to debate the subject.

gonchar's gonna be 41 when his contract is up.
dallas isn't as strong a team as Ottawa, look for those numbers to go down (possibly drastically) for both reasons.
dallas almost looks like it was a team attempting a mini rebuild by selling jagr, morrow etc. not making moves towards the playoffs.
seems like a sideways move. move for 39 year old jagr - fail and trade him - then move for 39 year old gonchar.

plus, i certainly believe gonchar coulda been had for less than 5 million
- hugefemale dog77

If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.

well i didn't neccasarily say it was terrible. i said streit's worth more imo, and this will drive his price up. and i don't want to throw a ton of money at streit. he'll help, but he aint worth 5.5 imo.

but if your looking to debate the subject.

gonchar's gonna be 41 when his contract is up.
dallas isn't as strong a team as Ottawa, look for those numbers to go down (possibly drastically) for both reasons.
dallas almost looks like it was a team attempting a mini rebuild by selling jagr, morrow etc. not making moves towards the playoffs.
seems like a sideways move. move for 39 year old jagr - fail and trade him - then move for 39 year old gonchar.

plus, i certainly believe gonchar coulda been had for less than 5 million
- hugefemale dog77

If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.

well i didn't neccasarily say it was terrible. i said streit's worth more imo, and this will drive his price up. and i don't want to throw a ton of money at streit. he'll help, but he aint worth 5.5 imo.

but if your looking to debate the subject.

gonchar's gonna be 41 when his contract is up.
dallas isn't as strong a team as Ottawa, look for those numbers to go down (possibly drastically) for both reasons.
dallas almost looks like it was a team attempting a mini rebuild by selling jagr, morrow etc. not making moves towards the playoffs.
seems like a sideways move. move for 39 year old jagr - fail and trade him - then move for 39 year old gonchar.

plus, i certainly believe gonchar coulda been had for less than 5 million
- hugefemale dog77

If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.

If he coulda been had for less than 5 mill than he would have been signed for that.

Saying Dallas isn't as good as Ottawa is a fallacy. Ottawa dominated at times this year with a severely depleted line-up. If Dallas finds a coach that can get players to buy in the same way Paul Maclean did, Gonchar will be fine.
- laughs2907

Dustin Nielson ‏@nielson1260 2m
Oilers announce that Craig MacTavish will be speaking to the media at 4:00 PM on a Saturday...hmmmm

Dustin Nielson ‏@nielson1260 2m
Oilers announce that Craig MacTavish will be speaking to the media at 4:00 PM on a Saturday...hmmmm
- Lahey

Wonder what it's about?

Wonder what it's about?
- HouseArrest187

He's going to be like "Lolz jk, Hemmer and horcoff staying"

So he can raise their value back up from negative to zero

Dustin Nielson ‏@nielson1260 2m
Oilers announce that Craig MacTavish will be speaking to the media at 4:00 PM on a Saturday...hmmmm
- Lahey

Holding a conference to announce RC being hired