Hmm. What do you think it would take for the Isles to deal Dipietro. Just to give a comparable.
- Dirte

It would have to be crazy...

DP, Strome and 3 picks for Horcoff, Hemsky and Belanger...

Any team taking on the terrible contract is going to need lots of entry level contracts to make up for buying DP out/ burying him.

It was stated (by someone else) that he was likely the closest comparable due to contract. DP is by far, the worst contract in the league. Luongo is, as said, likely number 2. It's not really a good comparable, but likely the closest one out there.
- Dirte

On what planet is DP comparable to Luongo? Number 2 no chance. I can think of one off the top of my head thats worse. Bryzgalov.

I talk to people around Calgary who know people "around" the Flames. There are people in that front office who really like Vanek, so that trade would not shock me.
- IanEsplen

They do need to swing for the fences right now... funny how they're going after a player the Oil tried to steal 5-6 years ago (i think).

What would it cost to get Edler? Kesler?

What I am saying is that they have options. I have layed out an option they could explore if they were interested.

I would hardly consider giving up Edler for Coutourier gifting Coutourier. Frankly I wouldn't take anything less.

$1.75M for Tanev was just a guess at what he'll make. Whatever the number, it'll be within $500k of that number. Alberts is NOT better value. He's a poor skater and brutal with the puck.

The Kings only have 7 forwards with a cap hit over $1.35M this season. So yeah, getting two 4th line forwards at around $1M seems pretty reasonable. Also, league minimum is not $1M.

Do your homework.
- KB3Point0

Too funny, sorry, I can't continue I have too much homework to do.

What would it cost to get Edler? Kesler?
- AlfieisKing

Depends who you talk to. Anywhere from a top five pick to a future franchise player plus...

The thing is that unlike the Canucks, the Hawks can actually win in the playoffs without relying on Toews and Kane to provide all of the scoring(like the Canucks with the Sedins). This is why I laugh at those who think the Sedins are the problem, their PPG pace in the playoffs since becoming first line players has been just fine, but the rest of the this team's offense has always tanked in the playoffs.

Tyler Seguin has 1 goals in 15 playoff games for the Bruins. Lucic has 3. Jagr has zero.

Having more than 1 or 2 lines capable of scoring is what wins in the playoffs IMO since every individual player and lines will always have their ups and downs, so having more lines capable of scoring can allow a team to get away with having a couple of slumping top 6 forwards. The idea that the third and 4th lines should just be satisfied by dumping the puck and getting off of the ice quickly without doing something stupid is good enough to win a cup is ridiculous.
- Nucker101

You sir are correct!!

Schneider isn;t going anywhere.
- Boinker

You can tell out of market fans.... they are the only ones who ever even attempt to suggest Schneider. Canucks fans shut that poop down early.

You sir are correct!!
- HawkfaninBC

100% agree. There was no better team than the Canucks when Malholtra and Torres skated the third line.

100% agree. There was no better team than the Canucks when Malholtra and Torres skated the third line.
- Beatle_john

Actually, that team peaked when Malhotra was out with his eye injury & Torres was playing with Lapierre & Hansen.

Kesler edler and our first for ellis and preds 4th overall pick
Cory and ellis and next years pick for third overall
Thoughts?

Kesler edler and our first for ellis and preds 4th overall pick
Cory and ellis and next years pick for third overall
Thoughts?
- RF_4eva

Too much.

Too much.
- Fosco

Yup... Waaay too much.

Yup... Waaay too much.
- DrChristianTroy

Your offer?

Your offer?
- RF_4eva

Rather trade Edler for a young forward with top6 upside already in the NHL or close to it.

Or Edler plus a mid-tier prospect for the 5th overall. Wouldn't give up much more than that unless something else was coming back.

EDIT: Just because teams with top 10 picks are overvaluing them at this time of year doesn't mean the Canucks should be foolish enough to pay the asking price.

Rather trade Edler for a young forward with top6 upside already in the NHL or close to it.

Or Edler plus a mid-tier prospect for the 5th overall. Wouldn't give up much more than that unless something else was coming back.
- Fosco

Pretty much how I feel. Not sure how an all-star calibre d-man in his prime (27yrs old) who's under contract for a VERY reasonable cap hit isn't worth a 4th overall pick straight up or more. Barkov & Nichushkin could both flop. Edler could get even better... He's done what he's done under Rick (frank)ing Bowness's watch. That's impressive in itself.

Rather trade Edler for a young forward with top6 upside already in the NHL or close to it.

Or Edler plus a mid-tier prospect for the 5th overall. Wouldn't give up much more than that unless something else was coming back.

EDIT: Just because teams with top 10 picks are overvaluing them at this time of year doesn't mean the Canucks should be foolish enough to pay the asking price.
- Fosco

I threw that offer out there so we could get barkov and drouin
Barkov is a big center and drouin would get some goals with the twins

Pretty much how I feel. Not sure how an all-star calibre d-man in his prime (27yrs old) who's under contract for a VERY reasonable cap hit isn't worth a 4th overall pick straight up or more. Barkov & Nichushkin could both flop. Edler could get even better... He's done what he's done under Rick (frank)ing Bowness's watch. That's impressive in itself.
- DrChristianTroy

Agreed. Picks are just ridiculously overvalued leading up to the draft, and this year even more so because of the strong top 5.

I threw that offer out there so we could get barkov and drouin
Barkov is a big center and drouin would get some goals with the twins
- RF_4eva

That's fine. Everybody is throwing offers around, and some are better than others.

I don't like giving up that many proven commodities for picks. Also don't think now is the right time to trade Kesler or Schneider.

I also have a slightly different opinion than many on here about the current state of the Canucks and their need for a re-tool/overhaul.

There will be quite a few players like Ballard available from teams looking to clear cap space though, including some good players that will be bought out. I'd rather take a shot at a player that's just been bought out, much cheaper, and also has a similar story as Ballard(not a good fit with his previous team).
- Nucker101

The majority of D-men available this summer will be 35+ and they'll still get big money.

Gillis RESET Button still on Hold ....

The lowest current cap hit is the Isles, at $35M. That’s $8M away from the floor, I believe. But they have 8 guys to sign to hit their payroll roster. Only 5 teams are currently below, and they range from having 7 to 11 guys to sign. There isn’t a single team struggling to hit the floor, realistically.

Additionally, while this has been brought up many many times, it’s never happened. If a GM has money to spend, he’s not gonna take on a bad contract for no reason. He’ll spend it the best way he can.
- Dirte

Yes, and there will be AT LEAST 1 team who could benefit from Ballard. As they won't be using all of their cap space it is not a big risk for them to assume only 2 years of his contract. The only reason Vancouver needs to get rid of him, which you already pointed out, is that they can't fit him within the salary cap.

Hey hold up....not if you don't count Lou's bad games.
- stormey

Team's bad games.

Oh....ok.

Well then they shouldn't count. You're right.
- stormey

Nobody said they shouldn't count. The point is that with such a small sample size his seasonal numbers took an unfair hit due to 2 games where the team didn't show up in front of him. If you watched those games you would know that neither was his fault, but it was his numbers that suffered.

I would feel confident if he had some size on his wings who were also competent defensively.

I don't think Schroeder is ready for the 2nd line yet, but I feel quite comfortable with him as a 3C, provided he improves his faceoff ability.

I've followed him quite closely the last 4 years, and he's still developing, which is a promising sign, considering he did quite well in his time in the NHL this season...at least in my opinion.
- Fosco

You jumped in during the middle of an argument with someone else. The point I was arguing was that he is not an upgrade over Kesler as the 2nd line center. Which he clearly is not. I don't think he has the size to be a 3rd line center either, but that is not what we were arguing.