Feaster would be on some high poop if he wants vanek on his team
Eklund makes me want to find another hockey site

And it was turned down.
- Dirte

It was, allegedly, but there was a lot reported about the interactions between Gillis and Nonis at the TDL.

Two 2nd rounders and Scrivens isn't nothing, far from it considering the price of picks these days.

And there's no proof this is even true.

Actually, there is. Luongo is a better goalie. There is no debate about that. You can say what you want about Luongo's contract, but it isn't half as bad as most people think it is. How much revenue is a playoff round worth in Edmonton? $10M? If Luongo were to enable the Oilers to make the playoffs twice then financially it makes sense to acquire him. It would also enable all your young stars to get a taste of winning. How long will they go on losing with shoddy defence and goaltending before they remember how winning teams are actually built?
- KB3Point0

Oh, I think you can definitely debate that. What you can’t debate is that he WAS a better goalie.

You know, I'm really not too concerned if you don't pay up when the time comes, but you're going to be wrong.

Mackenzie already stated there were teams interested at the deadline, but the price was still too high.

When the price becomes zero, he'll be gone. There's no way he'd pass through waivers.
- Fosco

Agreed. And the stupid idiotic people out there that actually believe that most Canucks fans are expecting a king's ransom for Luongo are (frank)ed in the head. Most of us aren't expecting a first rounder or a good prospect in return. In fact, just getting rid of his contract would be pretty good at this point.

Oh, I think you can definitely debate that. What you can’t debate is that he WAS a better goalie.
- Dirte

Sorry, but now you're just being (frank)ing stupid.

Seriously. Dipietro was a backup in the AHL last year with a 9-9 record.

No point in responding to your posts if you seriously believe this, because it's absolutely laughable...

It was, allegedly, but there was a lot reported about the interactions between Gillis and Nonis at the TDL.

Two 2nd rounders and Scrivens isn't nothing, far from it considering the price of picks these days.

And there's no proof this is even true.
- Fosco

Exactly. Since when is asking for two second rounders and Scrivens considered asking for nothing? Dreger even stated that day, that Nonis would have taken him for free or been willing to give up assets if the Canucks ate some of his salary.

When Nonis' cousin says that he would have taken him for free then I'm guessing that he doesn't have negative trade value like some Leafs trolls try to convince themselves and others to believe.

Oh, I think you can definitely debate that. What you can’t debate is that he WAS a better goalie.
- Dirte

(frank) off.

It was, allegedly, but there was a lot reported about the interactions between Gillis and Nonis at the TDL.

Two 2nd rounders and Scrivens isn't nothing, far from it considering the price of picks these days.

And there's no proof this is even true.
- Fosco

I see, so you’re totally willing to agree that there were teams interested, as reported, but the price was too high, but when the report is something you don’t like, it’s not quite as agreeable?

Trading Luongo is one thing. You’re on drugs if you think you’ll get a taker for Keith Ballard. A $4M dman who’s spent the better part of the last few years either injured or in the press box? That’s a step down from Mike Komisarek.
- Dirte

Someone will take Ballard. They'll basically give up nothing to do so, but it will happen. Komisarek sucks because he can't skate. Ballard is a great skater who got screwed over by a horrible coach. As you just shed yourself of Ron Wilson you should be well aware of how a coach can negatively affect certain players. Also, there will be a couple of teams with holes on D next year who have plenty of cap space who will be willing to toss a crappy draft pick for Ballard. Picking up Ballard if you have the cap space and don't have anyone else to spend it on is a win / win if you don't have to give anything up.

As much as they’ll try to convince other fans that they should want to, no in the league is interested. I thought became painfully clear, but they seem to be convinced he’ll get a nice return again.

No one wants Luongo, and even worse, Ballard or Booth. I’m curious to see how they’ll handle having three guys as compliance buyout material, when they can only buy out two of them.
- Dirte

Don't be so sure about that. Fans of other teams ask me all the time if they think Vancouver would take a mid round pick for Booth or Ballard.

And there are a small group of people who would take Louie for the right price.

The market on these three isn't great and it likely isn't fair from a Canucks point of view, But I bet Gillis could off load all three of these guys if he really wanted to make the deal.

Sorry, but now you're just being (frank)ing stupid.

Seriously. Dipietro was a backup in the AHL last year with a 9-9 record.

No point in responding to your posts if you seriously believe this, because it's absolutely laughable...
- Fosco

My master, I believe he was talking about dubnyk

Feaster would be on some high poop if he wants vanek on his team
Eklund makes me want to find another hockey site
- RF_4eva

Wouldn't put anything past Feaster and Calgary's stupid ownership these days.

i get banned for saying kevin lowe is an idiot yet leaf posters are allowed on this site?? not to sure i get it...

Sorry, but now you're just being (frank)ing stupid.

Seriously. Dipietro was a backup in the AHL last year with a 9-9 record.

No point in responding to your posts if you seriously believe this, because it's absolutely laughable...
- Fosco

Trade him to Florida. He'll be their goalie of the future

Those are Markstrom like numbers from the AHL

(frank) off.
- Nucker101

Who performed better this year? Which one of them is 27, which is 34?

You get that the majority of players are retired by 34, right?

Wouldn't put anything past Feaster and Calgary's stupid ownership these days.
- Nucker101

i actually feel bad for flames fans.

I see, so you’re totally willing to agree that there were teams interested, as reported, but the price was too high, but when the report is something you don’t like, it’s not quite as agreeable?
- Dirte

The difference is that Mackenzie doesn't have an agenda when he says that there are teams interested, and nothing more.

Dreger has a personal relationship with Nonis...

Even if what Dreger said was true, which it could very well be, the point still stands that two 2nd rounders and Scrivens is far from nothing.

Someone will take Ballard. They'll basically give up nothing to do so, but it will happen. Komisarek sucks because he can't skate. Ballard is a great skater who got screwed over by a horrible coach. As you just shed yourself of Ron Wilson you should be well aware of how a coach can negatively affect certain players. Also, there will be a couple of teams with holes on D next year who have plenty of cap space who will be willing to toss a crappy draft pick for Ballard. Picking up Ballard if you have the cap space and don't have anyone else to spend it on is a win / win if you don't have to give anything up.
- KB3Point0

Ballard sucks. No one wants a $4M guy that sits in the pressbox.

Hmm. What do you think it would take for the Isles to deal Dipietro. Just to give a comparable.
- Dirte

Yeah, cause an AHL goalie is comparable to one of the most consistent goalies in the past decade. A gold medal winning goalie who took his team to within one win of the Stanley Cup just 2 seasons ago.

Someone will take Ballard. They'll basically give up nothing to do so, but it will happen. Komisarek sucks because he can't skate. Ballard is a great skater who got screwed over by a horrible coach. As you just shed yourself of Ron Wilson you should be well aware of how a coach can negatively affect certain players. Also, there will be a couple of teams with holes on D next year who have plenty of cap space who will be willing to toss a crappy draft pick for Ballard. Picking up Ballard if you have the cap space and don't have anyone else to spend it on is a win / win if you don't have to give anything up.
- KB3Point0

I highly doubt that any GM takes on Ballard at his full, current salary. Yes he got (frank)ed over by AV/Bowness, but that's an expensive risk to take. If I'm a GM I'd rather wait for him to be bought out or a sign a cheaper UFA d-man.

The difference is that Mackenzie doesn't have an agenda when he says that there are teams interested, and nothing more.

Dreger has a personal relationship with Nonis...

Even if what Dreger said was true, which it could very well be, the point still stands that two 2nd rounders and Scrivens is far from nothing.
- Fosco

Which, even if true, was turned down.

Now we're another year along, on a 34 year old, coming off a bad season. With a declining cap.

Who performed better this year? Which one of them is 27, which is 34?

You get that the majority of players are retired by 34, right?
- Dirte

My bad, I thought you were comparing him to DP. No response to my other replies, eh?

Feaster would be on some high poop if he wants vanek on his team
Eklund makes me want to find another hockey site
- RF_4eva

I talk to people around Calgary who know people "around" the Flames. There are people in that front office who really like Vanek, so that trade would not shock me.

My bad, I thought you were comparing him to DP. No response to my other replies, eh?
- Nucker101

It was stated (by someone else) that he was likely the closest comparable due to contract. DP is by far, the worst contract in the league. Luongo is, as said, likely number 2. It's not really a good comparable, but likely the closest one out there.

I highly doubt that any GM takes on Ballard at his full, current salary. Yes he got (frank)ed over by AV/Bowness, but that's an expensive risk to take. If I'm a GM I'd rather wait for him to be bought out or a sign a cheaper UFA d-man.
- Nucker101

Not a chance. There will be better dmen go through compliance buyout, I would imagine. Just sign one for $1M if that’s what you want.