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Xnightwish
New Jersey Devils
Location: St. Louis, MO
Joined: 12.12.2011

Jun 8 @ 5:38 PM ET
Streit is not worth it, after his injuries he has not been the same D-man, plus he's looking for his last payday of around $5.5m, which some dumb team will give him.....

I'm all about the youth bc this game is about speed and kids, so the Devils would be better off with an injection of kids to bring out the energy n hunger you guys lost with Parise.

Devil fans have nothing to worry about, bc you have the best GM in sports...

In Lou we trust...

- Ur Not Me

I get that Lou is/was a great GM but I dunno about him still being relevant...I was so glad last year that we made it to the finals but it just didn't feel like the last finals appearances...it almost felt like we didn't belong back there yet, that being said I will reserve my opinions on Lou after this upcoming season...he gets a pass this year due to losing parise and the market being too dry to realistically replace him without mortgaging the team, but we need to get back to our winning ways...SCF appearance bookended by 2 missed playoffs is just weird for us.
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 8 @ 5:53 PM ET
What about hainsey?
MartysBetter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: 94Nevermore, NJ
Joined: 07.01.2010

Jun 8 @ 6:05 PM ET
I get that Lou is/was a great GM but I dunno about him still being relevant...I was so glad last year that we made it to the finals but it just didn't feel like the last finals appearances...it almost felt like we didn't belong back there yet, that being said I will reserve my opinions on Lou after this upcoming season...he gets a pass this year due to losing parise and the market being too dry to realistically replace him without mortgaging the team, but we need to get back to our winning ways...SCF appearance bookended by 2 missed playoffs is just weird for us.
- Xnightwish



Remember the season before we went to the cup final what we had.. We barely missed after losing so many games under Maclean. This year was the lockout, and compressed, so if your most important players (starting goalie and best player) are out or extended periods of time... They not only miss more games in the same amount of time as normal... But there's less total games to make up for it once they're healthy!!! Lou rolled the dice with Matteau and butler, but we got Loktionov for nothing, and we did lose Marty and kovy. Without one of those long injuries I'd guess we get a bottom 4 seed. The goal scoring drought was unreal, and almost all of those games were 1 goal or overtime/shootout losses.. A crazy bounce, a dumb call, a zidlicky penalty. Lou isn't to blame for either of the years we missed the playoffs. I guess you could blame him for not firin Maclean 2 months sooner.
blizzzard
New Jersey Devils
Location: Orillia, ON
Joined: 07.02.2011

Jun 8 @ 6:15 PM ET
I am just praying he doesn't go for the bargain deals unless its a fifth for a lokti type prospect those cant really hurt you as you are getting a better prospect then you likely ever could with the fifth round pick. But what I am mostly worried about is a Horcoff or Hemskey cause they both will likely be dirt cheap. I am not against giving a bought out guy a shot especially if its someone who can still play but not for 6-7 mill anymore I would even take a 1 year flyer on Healtey but that would be the most for him I wouldn't mind trying Havlat either, he is injury prone but he has been playing big physical teams in the west for the last few years being in the east might keep him healthier but again this are 3 million dollar signings and for short term 1-2 years max. We don't want to rush any F prospects we have or might get. We don't want to really take it as slow as Larsson but be reasonable with them. I think the last thing we want is to get a high potential scorer with our first and burn him out by rushing him or putting to high of expectations on him especially since we don't have a first next year. That would destroy us.
MrToast
New Jersey Devils
Location: Space, YT
Joined: 06.27.2012

Jun 8 @ 9:47 PM ET
What about hainsey?
- MartysBetter88

old and bad

perfect for this team
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:37 PM ET
I read a something that said Horcoff is now asking for a trade. Also, the article said that if thy trade either him or Hemsky they will take salary back and they need veterans. They are also willing to deal their 7th pick. I was thinking of something that involved A-Train. Not sure what it could be.

To Nj:
Horcoff (5.5 mil)
7th overall
Paajarvi (RFA)/Teubert

To Ed:
A-Train (4 mil)
Henrique (RFA)/Zajac (5.7mil)
Later pick either this or next year.

Would have to trade either Henriuqe or Zajac to fit Horcoff in or Put Henrique on wing. FYI: Henrique centered Hall in Windsor.

Or trade for the 7th by trading Zajac/Henrique and picking Monahan at 7th and Shinkaruk at 9th if available.
dmarsden2988
New Jersey Devils
Location: stafford is about equal to rya, NJ
Joined: 03.07.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:44 PM ET
I read a something that said Horcoff is now asking for a trade. Also, the article said that if thy trade either him or Hemsky they will take salary back and they need veterans. They are also willing to deal their 7th pick. I was thinking of something that involved A-Train. Not sure what it could be.

To Nj:
Horcoff (5.5 mil)
7th overall
Paajarvi (RFA)/Teubert

To Ed:
A-Train (4 mil)
Henrique (RFA)/Zajac (5.7mil)
Later pick either this or next year.

Would have to trade either Henriuqe or Zajac to fit Horcoff in or Put Henrique on wing. FYI: Henrique centered Hall in Windsor.

Or trade for the 7th by trading Zajac/Henrique and picking Monahan at 7th and Shinkaruk at 9th if available.

- Devils9503




no horcoff
devfan30
New Jersey Devils
Location: totowa, NJ
Joined: 12.18.2007

Jun 8 @ 10:49 PM ET
trade Larsson for the 7th pick. problem solved for both teams. Edmonton gets the defenseman they want, devils get a second pick to makeup for the lost one next season.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jun 8 @ 10:55 PM ET
no horcoff
- dmarsden2988


I only say Horcoff because if we want to get rid of A-Train, we'll probably gonna have to take some guy we don't want, but if we can get a serviceable centerman, Paajarvi and the 7th I feel we get younger with the latter two and a good centerman who is capable of scoring. He has scored 20 goals before, maybe just a change of scenery. Plus he has two years left where A-train has three. And Horcoff would actually help our top 9. Also, I wouldnt want Hemsky because of his history, so to get younger with the 7th and Paajarvi we may have to get someone who others may not want, but he's not as bad as Volchenkov.
Devils9503
New Jersey Devils
Location: NJ
Joined: 07.25.2011

Jun 8 @ 11:05 PM ET
trade Larsson for the 7th pick. problem solved for both teams. Edmonton gets the defenseman they want, devils get a second pick to makeup for the lost one next season.
- devfan30


Yeah, but trading Larsson really doesn't help us because your trading a kid who is only 20 and hasn't been in the lineup consistently because Deboer takes him out. It doesn't help us on defense, just hurts us more. We have some d-propects, but I think Larsson just needs more time and responsibility as time goes on. Merrill, Urbom, and Gelinas, have been given the time to develop before they make the team whereas Larsson is developing his game every game he plays. I think he'll become the player he is supposed to be, just with time and patience. Plus he hasn't been used as a #1 guy. Zid has been qbing the powerplay. I think the points will come if he is given the spot next to Kovy on the pp. And if we were to pick Monahan we would either have to trade Zajac, Henrique, or Lokti unless he can be moved to the wing.
K-dizzle
New Jersey Devils
Joined: 07.28.2011

Jun 9 @ 12:12 AM ET
Once again i get on and read about how Larsson is a bust. Sophomore slump? Henrique didnt exactly have a lights out year either. But their busts apparently. So trade them to Edm problem solved..

So you trade Larsson to Edm for a draft pick? Then we're just 2 steps backwards then, pick up lets say Monahan or Lindholm and maybe a guy like Nurse or Rostalinenn, Zadorov (Im just guessing their a highly rated prospects). And then they are about NHL ready maybe not. That doesn't help at all there "Prospects" why trade for prospects?

I read an article awhile ago on PHT Larsson's old coach was confused why he wasnt getting much PP time this past year he says he has some of the best vision he has ever seen, so gifted in the O zone. but he's been in Zid and Harrold's shaddow. They origionally tried putting him on pp1 his rookie year remember he just wasnt ready for it. but also a typical Jersey pp.

You build defenders from your backend first, then you get them involved more into offense. I honestly feel like he knows he has a short leash, he messes up and he's going to be ridding the pine.

Dougie Hamilton has played like one game this post season you think we should have picked him instead?

end rant
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 9 @ 5:17 AM ET
Once again i get on and read about how Larsson is a bust. Sophomore slump? Henrique didnt exactly have a lights out year either. But their busts apparently. So trade them to Edm problem solved..

So you trade Larsson to Edm for a draft pick? Then we're just 2 steps backwards then, pick up lets say Monahan or Lindholm and maybe a guy like Nurse or Rostalinenn, Zadorov (Im just guessing their a highly rated prospects). And then they are about NHL ready maybe not. That doesn't help at all there "Prospects" why trade for prospects?

I read an article awhile ago on PHT Larsson's old coach was confused why he wasnt getting much PP time this past year he says he has some of the best vision he has ever seen, so gifted in the O zone. but he's been in Zid and Harrold's shaddow. They origionally tried putting him on pp1 his rookie year remember he just wasnt ready for it. but also a typical Jersey pp.

You build defenders from your backend first, then you get them involved more into offense. I honestly feel like he knows he has a short leash, he messes up and he's going to be ridding the pine.

Dougie Hamilton has played like one game this post season you think we should have picked him instead?

end rant

- K-dizzle


It's the same guy that does it (Devsfan30). You just sort of learn to tune it out.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 9 @ 5:22 AM ET
A-train isn't as bad as people say he is. Slow skater but he's a good PK defenseman and pretty good positionally. Just can't handle a rush. Ie, he's a good 3rd pairing guy, because all 3rd pairing guys make mistakes anyway.

Just overpaid 3rd pairing.

However, HORCOFF... if we get that (let's just call him not-a-winner), we are SKREWED. He is one of the worst players in the NHL and doesn't belong here. He's not bad because he played for the Oilers, he's part of the reason the Oilers were so bad. There's a reason MacT is getting rid of him. If I had a list of the ten worst guys in the NHL, he'd definitely be on it.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 9 @ 11:16 AM ET
Once again i get on and read about how Larsson is a bust. Sophomore slump? Henrique didnt exactly have a lights out year either. But their busts apparently. So trade them to Edm problem solved..

So you trade Larsson to Edm for a draft pick? Then we're just 2 steps backwards then, pick up lets say Monahan or Lindholm and maybe a guy like Nurse or Rostalinenn, Zadorov (Im just guessing their a highly rated prospects). And then they are about NHL ready maybe not. That doesn't help at all there "Prospects" why trade for prospects?

I read an article awhile ago on PHT Larsson's old coach was confused why he wasnt getting much PP time this past year he says he has some of the best vision he has ever seen, so gifted in the O zone. but he's been in Zid and Harrold's shaddow. They origionally tried putting him on pp1 his rookie year remember he just wasnt ready for it. but also a typical Jersey pp.

You build defenders from your backend first, then you get them involved more into offense. I honestly feel like he knows he has a short leash, he messes up and he's going to be ridding the pine.

Dougie Hamilton has played like one game this post season you think we should have picked him instead?

end rant

- K-dizzle


If anyone watched Hamilton, you could see he was more like Larsson in his rookie season. A good amount of defensive lapses and turnovers. He still has great potential, but it just proves that defense is not an easy position to learn and you cannot expect defenders to light the league on fire when they are young.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 9 @ 11:18 AM ET
A-train isn't as bad as people say he is. Slow skater but he's a good PK defenseman and pretty good positionally. Just can't handle a rush. Ie, he's a good 3rd pairing guy, because all 3rd pairing guys make mistakes anyway.

Just overpaid 3rd pairing.

However, HORCOFF... if we get that (let's just call him not-a-winner), we are SKREWED. He is one of the worst players in the NHL and doesn't belong here. He's not bad because he played for the Oilers, he's part of the reason the Oilers were so bad. There's a reason MacT is getting rid of him. If I had a list of the ten worst guys in the NHL, he'd definitely be on it.

- archromat

It doesn't help when Atrain, Sal, and Zid are all slow as molasses and Fayne isn't too quick either. Hopefully some of the young guys and Larsson getting more minutes will provide a little more speed from the back end.

Also, Larry Brooks says the Rangers are in on Zid. Let's hope its a multi-year deal.
archromat
Location: Moncton, NB
Joined: 01.16.2012

Jun 9 @ 11:22 AM ET
It doesn't help when Atrain, Sal, and Zid are all slow as molasses and Fayne isn't too quick either. Hopefully some of the young guys and Larsson getting more minutes will provide a little more speed from the back end.

Also, Larry Brooks says the Rangers are in on Zid. Let's hope its a multi-year deal.

- rmdevil313


Sal can go back to the 2nd pair and Atrain and Fayne can be our 3rd pairing pk warriors.
rmdevil313
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Your a (frank)ing fag and I hope you get crippled- Cranny, MN
Joined: 01.05.2009

Jun 9 @ 11:32 AM ET
Sal can go back to the 2nd pair and Atrain and Fayne can be our 3rd pairing pk warriors.
- archromat


It would help a lot if Fayne could regain his form from 2012. Maybe Merril will slot in with Sal and let Larsson and Greene take the top pairing.
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 9 @ 11:37 AM ET
I read a something that said Horcoff is now asking for a trade. Also, the article said that if thy trade either him or Hemsky they will take salary back and they need veterans. They are also willing to deal their 7th pick. I was thinking of something that involved A-Train. Not sure what it could be.

To Nj:
Horcoff (5.5 mil)
7th overall
Paajarvi (RFA)/Teubert

To Ed:
A-Train (4 mil)
Henrique (RFA)/Zajac (5.7mil)
Later pick either this or next year.

Would have to trade either Henriuqe or Zajac to fit Horcoff in or Put Henrique on wing. FYI: Henrique centered Hall in Windsor.

Or trade for the 7th by trading Zajac/Henrique and picking Monahan at 7th and Shinkaruk at 9th if available.

- Devils9503

this is a joke right?
shvingter88
New Jersey Devils
Location: Puljujarvi makes draisitil and mcdavid better, CT
Joined: 10.12.2009

Jun 9 @ 11:38 AM ET
trade Larsson for the 7th pick. problem solved for both teams. Edmonton gets the defenseman they want, devils get a second pick to makeup for the lost one next season.
- devfan30

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