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SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:26 PM ET
I'd still take Doughty, because he's closer to what they are missing in Pronger. He can do it all. I wouldn't say no to Voynov, either, but Doughty's the more well rounded of the two, despite Voynov's outstanding playoff production.
- Jsaquella

For now... In a few years I sees a changing in the guard.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:28 PM ET
Trade coots for subban?
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:29 PM ET
Pit getting bounced tonight... Just makes me in an extremely good mood
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 7 @ 5:47 PM ET
Does anyone have the .jpg of the orca in the process of eating a penguin.. and the orca has a flyers logo on it?


yes, i'm an evil person. you dont need to tell me that.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:50 PM ET
For now... In a few years I sees a changing in the guard.
- SMS4016


Considering both are 23 years of age, it's not reasonable to expect Voynov to suddenly surpass a declining Doughty
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:54 PM ET
Considering both are 23 years of age, it's not reasonable to expect Voynov to suddenly surpass a declining Doughty
- Jsaquella

Kings brought doughty up early. Let voynov mature longer ( there's a concept right) doughty has more NHL experience. For now anyways.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:55 PM ET
Stars trade for Gonchar's rights. Hoping to sign him before he hits UFA, per Mike Heika on twitter.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:56 PM ET
Kings brought doughty up early. Let voynov mature longer ( there's a concept right) doughty has more NHL experience. For now anyways.
- SMS4016


Doughty was more ready than Voynov. Doesn't mean that Doughty will decline sooner. He's also just as likely as Voynov to become an even better player over the next few years, my point was they're the same age and both likely to get better than they are now.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 7 @ 5:57 PM ET
I hope not. You end up over-paying in either salary or assets for a player if the tea doesn't match and then you have to waste 7 days in the summer's busy season waiting and can't do much to address needs.
- Jsaquella


A worthwhile risk IMO

You obviously offer sheet him after FA has started and have been able to adress any other needs that would otherwise be hindered by a week long offer sheet.
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 7 @ 5:58 PM ET
Stars trade for Gonchar's rights. Hoping to sign him before he hits UFA, per Mike Heika on twitter.
- Jsaquella




As a stars fan?......god I hope not
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:59 PM ET
A worthwhile risk IMO

You obviously offer sheet him after FA has started and have been able to adress any other needs that would otherwise be hindered by a week long offer sheet.

- mochoson


I'd still look for another route...not eager to trade multiple 1xst rounders for Bogosian-and then pay him so much money that Winnipeg walked away from all the time and effort they spent developing him.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 7 @ 6:15 PM ET
I think Skip might find it easier to talk hockey prospects than to talk market saturation, opportunity cost, revenue streams, and profit margins.

I know I started tuning out shortly after I made my post about sport being different from other industries.

- Doc_Sarcasm

Thank you
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 7 @ 6:16 PM ET
Counterpoint: Several pages discussing 18 year old kids most of us know from YouTube clips and subjective scouting reports isn't much more compelling.
- johndewar

Meh. At least I read that, even if I don't join in.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 7 @ 6:16 PM ET
hi skip
- GirouxForTheShow


Hey, man! How are you?

I SAID HI SKIP
- GirouxForTheShow


aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

Jun 7 @ 6:17 PM ET
Stars trade for Gonchar's rights. Hoping to sign him before he hits UFA, per Mike Heika on twitter.
- Jsaquella

Is there a 7 day window where teams can talk to pending ufas this year or does that start next summer?
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 7 @ 6:20 PM ET
Stars trade for Gonchar's rights. Hoping to sign him before he hits UFA, per Mike Heika on twitter.
- Jsaquella

How much mileage is left in *that* tank?
GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 7 @ 6:21 PM ET
Hey, man! How are you?




- Flyskippy


You take too long...
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 6:27 PM ET
How much mileage is left in *that* tank?
- Flyskippy


Averaged 24 minutes a night for a playoff team this year
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 6:28 PM ET
Is there a 7 day window where teams can talk to pending ufas this year or does that start next summer?
- aightwebang17


Not 100% sure, but it's definitely in next summer.
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

Jun 7 @ 6:49 PM ET
Stars trade for Gonchar's rights. Hoping to sign him before he hits UFA, per Mike Heika on twitter.
- Jsaquella


Now that's something I want Homer to get away from, using an asset to speak with an UFA before the free agency period. I think you are just giving more leverage to the agent in negotiating a deal. I'm just not a big fan of the tactic.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 6:58 PM ET
I'd still look for another route...not eager to trade multiple 1xst rounders for Bogosian-and then pay him so much money that Winnipeg walked away from all the time and effort they spent developing him.
- Jsaquella


I'm against it simply because I don't think it's going to work.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 6:59 PM ET
Is there a 7 day window where teams can talk to pending ufas this year or does that start next summer?
- aightwebang17


It starts this off Season. FA starts July 5th this year.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 7 @ 7:00 PM ET
ethics should have no place in business.
- Philly1980


errr, welcome to the reason for the current state of the American economy.

Ethics, aka Right and Wrong, should be (and is, whether you realize it or not) part of every interaction. The only problem is, most American corporations have no problem doing what would universally be considered 'wrong' so long as they make a profit or save money doing it.

/steps off soapbox.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 7 @ 7:08 PM ET
Now that's something I want Homer to get away from, using an asset to speak with an UFA before the free agency period. I think you are just giving more leverage to the agent in negotiating a deal. I'm just not a big fan of the tactic.
- ravishingone


Agreed. That's not a good use or limited resources.
Flyskippy
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ignoreland, GA
Joined: 11.04.2005

Jun 7 @ 7:26 PM ET
You take too long...
- GirouxForTheShow

Oh, thanks. One of my best secrets!
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