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GirouxForTheShow
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Fuck you raff
Joined: 01.04.2009

Jun 7 @ 3:39 PM ET
Okay, I'll try to make it appropriate with my terminology.

The sister of my friend was dating Jason Michaels when he was a Phillie. The 3 of them were out at a restaurant, and Pat Burrell decided to join them. My friend was a HS senior, and when they're getting ready to go, she said, "Would you go to my prom with me?" Without a moment's hesitation, Burrell looks her dead in the eye and says, "Get under the table and S my C." She looks at him and said, "WHAT!?" He repeats, "Get under the table and S my C." She said no and, like a flash, Burrell throws down cash to cover the bill for all 4 people and the tip and strolls away into the night.

In 2008, the Phillies were on the road. One night, Utley's roomed next to Burrell. He hears Burrell going to town next door, and hears Burrell scream, "TELL ME YOUR P IS JEALOUS!" So the girl screams, "OH GOD, MY P IS JEALOUS!" And that's when Burrell, in my favorite line of all time, says, "THAT'S RIGHT, CAUSE PAT BURRELL'S IN YOUR A!"

- jmatchett383


That last night is golden.
77rams
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: There's a kind of freedom in being completely screwed...
Joined: 09.12.2006

Jun 7 @ 3:40 PM ET
Think there is any truth Carolina is looking for a top 4 d-man for the 5th overall pick... Goodbye Coburn, hello Barkov or Nichushkin?
- youarewrong


Yea. That is if Rutherford would like to be job hunting shortly thereafter.
twotoekenn
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: perkasie, PA
Joined: 12.16.2009

Jun 7 @ 3:41 PM ET
Okay, I'll try to make it appropriate with my terminology.

The sister of my friend was dating Jason Michaels when he was a Phillie. The 3 of them were out at a restaurant, and Pat Burrell decided to join them. My friend was a HS senior, and when they're getting ready to go, she said, "Would you go to my prom with me?" Without a moment's hesitation, Burrell looks her dead in the eye and says, "Get under the table and S my C." She looks at him and said, "WHAT!?" He repeats, "Get under the table and S my C." She said no and, like a flash, Burrell throws down cash to cover the bill for all 4 people and the tip and strolls away into the night.

In 2008, the Phillies were on the road. One night, Utley's roomed next to Burrell. He hears Burrell going to town next door, and hears Burrell scream, "TELL ME YOUR P IS JEALOUS!" So the girl screams, "OH GOD, MY P IS JEALOUS!" And that's when Burrell, in my favorite line of all time, says, "THAT'S RIGHT, CAUSE PAT BURRELL'S IN YOUR A!"

- jmatchett383


Far more entertaining than capbuzz.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:42 PM ET
Far more entertaining than capbuzz.
- twotoekenn

Now this is non-debatable
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 7 @ 3:44 PM ET
Yea. That is if Rutherford would like to be job hunting shortly thereafter.
- 77rams

Not gonna lie, I hung in there until he said coburn. I just can't help staring at train wrecks I guess.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 3:54 PM ET
Think there is any truth Carolina is looking for a top 4 d-man for the 5th overall pick... Goodbye Coburn, hello Barkov or Nichushkin?
- youarewrong



No, I don't think Carolina would trade the 5th pick for Coburn.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 7 @ 4:02 PM ET
No, I don't think Carolina would trade the 5th pick for Coburn.
- MJL



maybe he meant 5th round pick?
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:05 PM ET
No, I don't think Carolina would trade the 5th pick for Coburn.
- MJL


i think coburns nose would disagree with you lol
sarmen25
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 7 @ 4:09 PM ET
No, I don't think Carolina would trade the 5th pick for Coburn.
- MJL



why is it that every flyers fan wants coburn out of here since having one bad year (a shortened year, that is...)
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
Is there any doubt that voynov is kings best dman?
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 7 @ 4:19 PM ET
why is it that every flyers fan wants coburn out of here since having one bad year (a shortened year, that is...)
- sarmen25



because we dont have matt carle to pick on anymore. duh.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:37 PM ET
why is it that every flyers fan wants coburn out of here since having one bad year (a shortened year, that is...)
- sarmen25


I wish I knew. There always has to be a scapegoat.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:37 PM ET
Is there any doubt that voynov is kings best dman?
- SMS4016


if he shoots 20% (like he has in the playoffs) for the rest of his career, he'll go down as the best offensive defenseman of all time.

so, yes. there's a lot of doubt about that. doughty is light years better.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 4:38 PM ET
Is there any doubt that voynov is kings best dman?
- SMS4016


Yes there is. That's not to say that he's not very good, because he is. But he is not Drew Doughty. Doughty is the Kings best defenseman.
MBFlyerfan
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Be nice from now on, NJ
Joined: 03.17.2006

Jun 7 @ 4:44 PM ET
Okay, I'll try to make it appropriate with my terminology.

The sister of my friend was dating Jason Michaels when he was a Phillie. The 3 of them were out at a restaurant, and Pat Burrell decided to join them. My friend was a HS senior, and when they're getting ready to go, she said, "Would you go to my prom with me?" Without a moment's hesitation, Burrell looks her dead in the eye and says, "Get under the table and S my C." She looks at him and said, "WHAT!?" He repeats, "Get under the table and S my C." She said no and, like a flash, Burrell throws down cash to cover the bill for all 4 people and the tip and strolls away into the night.

In 2008, the Phillies were on the road. One night, Utley's roomed next to Burrell. He hears Burrell going to town next door, and hears Burrell scream, "TELL ME YOUR P IS JEALOUS!" So the girl screams, "OH GOD, MY P IS JEALOUS!" And that's when Burrell, in my favorite line of all time, says, "THAT'S RIGHT, CAUSE PAT BURRELL'S IN YOUR A!"

- jmatchett383


Comedy Gold. He could have been watching Sesame Street.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 7 @ 4:44 PM ET
Elliotte Friedman wrote a nice piece about Jagr's late-night workouts... a lot of Flyers-related tidbits included in there, including a vow from Hartnell:

http://www.cbc.ca/sports/...edication-in-the-gym.html
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 4:52 PM ET
Okay, I'll try to make it appropriate with my terminology.

The sister of my friend was dating Jason Michaels when he was a Phillie. The 3 of them were out at a restaurant, and Pat Burrell decided to join them. My friend was a HS senior, and when they're getting ready to go, she said, "Would you go to my prom with me?" Without a moment's hesitation, Burrell looks her dead in the eye and says, "Get under the table and S my C." She looks at him and said, "WHAT!?" He repeats, "Get under the table and S my C." She said no and, like a flash, Burrell throws down cash to cover the bill for all 4 people and the tip and strolls away into the night.

In 2008, the Phillies were on the road. One night, Utley's roomed next to Burrell. He hears Burrell going to town next door, and hears Burrell scream, "TELL ME YOUR P IS JEALOUS!" So the girl screams, "OH GOD, MY P IS JEALOUS!" And that's when Burrell, in my favorite line of all time, says, "THAT'S RIGHT, CAUSE PAT BURRELL'S IN YOUR A!"

- jmatchett383


I am ordering a Pat Burrell jersey right now.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 4:56 PM ET
Yes there is. That's not to say that he's not very good, because he is. But he is not Drew Doughty. Doughty is the Kings best defenseman.
- MJL

Why? Because he hits? Slava's got better stats.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 5:00 PM ET
Why? Because he hits? Slava's got better stats.
- SMS4016


Because he's a better all around defenseman then Voynov is. Want to look at a stat, that shows who's better? Look at time on ice.
Tomahawk
Location: Driver's Seat: Mitch Marner bandwagon. Grab 'em by the Corsi.
Joined: 02.04.2009

Jun 7 @ 5:15 PM ET
if he shoots 20% (like he has in the playoffs) for the rest of his career, he'll go down as the best offensive defenseman of all time.

so, yes. there's a lot of doubt about that. doughty is light years better.

- bradleyc4



Yeah, that 20% is super-high for a forward, much less a defenseman. Chalk it up as small sample size plus inordinate amounts of good luck.

The gap between them is definitely starting to close, though. Voynov's starting handle tougher minutes and doing pretty well, but yeah, his time on the ice is still a cakewalk compared to what Doughty has to handle.

Give it another season or two, and I wouldn't be surprised to see them pretty much on par with each other.
SMS4016
Joined: 01.27.2011

Jun 7 @ 5:15 PM ET
Because he's a better all around defenseman then Voynov is. Want to look at a stat, that shows who's better? Look at time on ice.
- MJL

Calm down tiger I'm just playing. Doughty is a beast. I'd rather have voynov on flyers because we have scheen. Just random daydreaming
mochoson
Atlanta Thrashers
Location: Josi is the most overrated player in the nhl. He isnt even close to a top ten. - James_Tanner, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2009

Jun 7 @ 5:16 PM ET
If we're gonna offer sheet anyone? I think it's gotta be Bogosian.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 7 @ 5:18 PM ET
Calm down tiger I'm just playing. Doughty is a beast. I'd rather have voynov on flyers because we have scheen. Just random daydreaming
- SMS4016


You've mentioned Voynov as being better then Doughty numerous times. I'd also love to have Voynov on the Flyers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:18 PM ET
Calm down tiger I'm just playing. Doughty is a beast. I'd rather have voynov on flyers because we have scheen. Just random daydreaming
- SMS4016


I'd still take Doughty, because he's closer to what they are missing in Pronger. He can do it all. I wouldn't say no to Voynov, either, but Doughty's the more well rounded of the two, despite Voynov's outstanding playoff production.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 7 @ 5:21 PM ET
If we're gonna offer sheet anyone? I think it's gotta be Bogosian.
- mochoson


I hope not. You end up over-paying in either salary or assets for a player if the tea doesn't match and then you have to waste 7 days in the summer's busy season waiting and can't do much to address needs.
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