Also, is Jonas Hiller on the block too? What about a package deal for Ryan and Hiller? I can only imagine what it would take to get that done...
- Jethro09

there not looking to move Ryan, actually there are looking into resigning him at almost the same price as Getz n Perry, they want to try and keep the 3 headed monster together.

Hiller might be moved at draft or deadline, plus there looking to move Souray as well, to clear up cap space.

I would only take a shot at Souray if I get seats next to Kelly Kelly his GF...

Ducks are actually in good salary cap space going forward, its teams like Van, Minn, Chi, Bost, and a few others that have cap issues....

BTW, Dallas unveiled their new uniforms. Pretty cool.

BTW, Dallas unveiled their new uniforms. Pretty cool.
- Jethro09

when Isles get to Brooklyn, they should unveil there 3rd jersey of the Brooklyn Bridge on it.....

I think they take Erne for three simple reasons - amazing skating, crashes the net, size.Often times, there isn't someone crashing the net hard (ex. Lucic) to distract the opposing team and open up some space when our offense is on the rush. If we had the 6'3" Erne crashing the net at a fast speed, that would open up a lot of room for Tavares or whoever Erne is centered by.
- kcNYI

I've also said I'd like them to pick Erne but he's not 6'3", more like 6' to 6'1".

"The 6' 1" 195 pound forward from New Haven, CT. "

I think they take Erne for three simple reasons - amazing skating, crashes the net, size.

Whether you like it or not, Capuano will probably coach for at least 2 more seasons. His system revolves around quick transitions and speed.

Often times, there isn't someone crashing the net hard (ex. Lucic) to distract the opposing team and open up some space when our offense is on the rush. If we had the 6'3" Erne crashing the net at a fast speed, that would open up a lot of room for Tavares or whoever Erne is centered by.Although the kid is quite raw, most are at the #16 pick (see Nelson, Brock at #30). It may take 2-3 years for Erne to make it to the NHL but he will fit into the speed and transition system we have in place.


- kcNYI

This is the theory behind having Nino on JT's wing. I'm interested in seeing if they follow that plan and then how it pans out.
Zzkeaner17zZ

We need some size on the blue line. Hoping for a blue line that other teams don't want to play against in the not too distant future.
- Cptmjl

we got some in the system although maybe a few years away...mayfield 6'4, Reinhard 6'4, pedan 6'4 and pelech 6'2...the days of the islanders being a bunch of pushovers on the blueline seem to be coming to an end

Well you know Snow is the master of that, and for some strange reason I can see him dong that....
- Ur Not Me

if it works out the way it did the only other time hes done it (IE getting bailey AND hamonic) i have faith that itll be a good deal.

I really want to see Nino play this year. I hope all the negativity surrounding him fades. I'm more inclined to stay put unless.it's for a big bruising type of dman. If even one of our fwd prospects can make a decent showing and maybe one or two minor signings we might be good. We've been waiting for these kids let's see what they got.
- Cptmjl

i agree...if we are trading nino (and by "we" i mean us losers on HB cuz i dont think garth is) it better be for a dman or a goalie. no need to waste a prospect on a top 6 guy. we arent in NEED of a superstar, we already have one. we need a top 6 forward and there are plenty of those available in UFA or strome/nino

Its going to take more. More like Nino, the first rounder and probably a top six forward or another elite prospect.
- Jethro09

i dont think thats true...thats big time overpayment!!!

...yep...im talking to myself.....

i agree...if we are trading nino (and by "we" i mean us losers on HB cuz i dont think garth is) it better be for a dman or a goalie. no need to waste a prospect on a top 6 guy. we arent in NEED of a superstar, we already have one. we need a top 6 forward and there are plenty of those available in UFA or strome/nino
- LetsGoIsles

I want to see Nino on the Isles. He's made a lot of progress as a player over the past season...it'd suck to have spent that time developing him for someone else.

I disagree about what he should be moved for if he is moved though. Since we took the time to try to develop a true top-line power forward, we should only trade him as part of a package (with the first rounder and maybe something else) for an established top-line power forward, imo. If that's dramatically overstating Nino's value, than I just don't think he should be on the trading block at all. If he has diminished value, then the potential of what he can be is worth more to the club than what they'd get in a trade for him.

((UIF))

I want to see Nino on the Isles. He's made a lot of progress as a player over the past season...it'd suck to have spent that time developing him for someone else.

I disagree about what he should be moved for if he is moved though. Since we took the time to try to develop a true top-line power forward, we should only trade him as part of a package (with the first rounder and maybe something else) for an established top-line power forward, imo. If that's dramatically overstating Nino's value, than I just don't think he should be on the trading block at all. If he has diminished value, then the potential of what he can be is worth more to the club than what they'd get in a trade for him.

((UIF))
- UIF

i hear what your thinking...we "lose" a top 6 guy, so we should get one back.

im thinking more in a "supply & demand" point of view- 1) we have potential top 6 guys 2) top 6 guys are much easier to come by, via trading/drafting/signing than established top dmen 3) (i believe) we are in greater need of a top 4 dman than a top 6 forward.

but i understand the other stance.

I want to see Nino on the Isles. He's made a lot of progress as a player over the past season...it'd suck to have spent that time developing him for someone else.

I disagree about what he should be moved for if he is moved though. Since we took the time to try to develop a true top-line power forward, we should only trade him as part of a package (with the first rounder and maybe something else) for an established top-line power forward, imo. If that's dramatically overstating Nino's value, than I just don't think he should be on the trading block at all. If he has diminished value, then the potential of what he can be is worth more to the club than what they'd get in a trade for him.

((UIF))
- UIF

I would also like to see what Nino can do on a line with JT. You never say never and if Nino is moved it has to be for a big piece the Isles do not have. It's going to be interesting to see who goes and who stays.

I would also like to see what Nino can do on a line with JT. You never say never and if Nino is moved it has to be for a big piece the Isles do not have. It's going to be interesting to see who goes and who stays.


- ses111

I just think the truth regarding the Isles relationship with Nino is completely distorted at this point. Any trade talk regarding Nino bases itself on a report released at the end of the year, referring to a conversation that took part in October of last year. The only info that came out of it was, Nino was upset he wasn't invited to camp and apparently was never even talked to by management about it, his agent promptly asked for a trade, Garth travelled to speak with Nino..explained why he wasn't invited, Nino proclaimed everything was fine and to "not believe everything you read" and then had a strong season in Bridgeport. He requests to play in the Worlds and is granted that request and performs strongly.

Naturally everyone will discount the quiet events after the trade request and consider that one instance like that has forever damanged the relations and suddenly we're dealing Nino away for another player.

To me the facts are this:
Nino is a very talented big kid who should fit the mold of a top line prototypical power forward. He should be ready to challenge for a top six spot now. He is a member of the Isles and there has been no mention of him being offered in packages. That's it....


Zzkeaner17zZ

I just think the truth regarding the Isles relationship with Nino is completely distorted at this point. Any trade talk regarding Nino bases itself on a report released at the end of the year, referring to a conversation that took part in October of last year. The only info that came out of it was, Nino was upset he wasn't invited to camp and apparently was never even talked to by management about it, his agent promptly asked for a trade, Garth travelled to speak with Nino..explained why he wasn't invited, Nino proclaimed everything was fine and to "not believe everything you read" and then had a strong season in Bridgeport. He requests to play in the Worlds and is granted that request and performs strongly.

Naturally everyone will discount the quiet events after the trade request and consider that one instance like that has forever damanged the relations and suddenly we're dealing Nino away for another player.

To me the facts are this:
Nino is a very talented big kid who should fit the mold of a top line prototypical power forward. He should be ready to challenge for a top six spot now. He is a member of the Isles and there has been no mention of him being offered in packages. That's it....


Zzkeaner17zZ
- keaner17

Nino said in interviews with foreign outlets during the Worlds that he was focused on training as hard as he can in the offseason and making the Islanders out of camp next season. His comments on the Isles' website after the Worlds were similar. Haven't seen those comments mentioned anywhere within the hockey media when these ridiculous proposals come up about who we're giving Nino away to in a given week.

The only controversy that will arise, imo, is if he comes to camp and is grossly outplayed there by Strome, Nelson and Lee. The way for him to avoid that controversy is to do exactly what he said...train hard in the offseason and look even better in camp than he did at the Worlds.

((UIF))

i hear what your thinking...we "lose" a top 6 guy, so we should get one back.

im thinking more in a "supply & demand" point of view- 1) we have potential top 6 guys 2) top 6 guys are much easier to come by, via trading/drafting/signing than established top dmen 3) (i believe) we are in greater need of a top 4 dman than a top 6 forward.

but i understand the other stance.
- LetsGoIsles

Top-6 guys, sure. Potential top-line power forwards...I think we've been after one of those for a long, long time. We traded Bertuzzi before he became that player for us, and held onto Isbister far too long hoping he'd develop into it. After that...I can't really think of anyone who approached that description for the Isles. And those kinds of players don't seem to be available all too often.

((UIF))

I just think the truth regarding the Isles relationship with Nino is completely distorted at this point. Any trade talk regarding Nino bases itself on a report released at the end of the year, referring to a conversation that took part in October of last year. The only info that came out of it was, Nino was upset he wasn't invited to camp and apparently was never even talked to by management about it, his agent promptly asked for a trade, Garth travelled to speak with Nino..explained why he wasn't invited, Nino proclaimed everything was fine and to "not believe everything you read" and then had a strong season in Bridgeport. He requests to play in the Worlds and is granted that request and performs strongly.

Naturally everyone will discount the quiet events after the trade request and consider that one instance like that has forever damanged the relations and suddenly we're dealing Nino away for another player.

To me the facts are this:
Nino is a very talented big kid who should fit the mold of a top line prototypical power forward. He should be ready to challenge for a top six spot now. He is a member of the Isles and there has been no mention of him being offered in packages. That's it....


Zzkeaner17zZ
- keaner17

I agree keaner. Nino should fit the bill nicely. Isles have taken the time to draft and develop these kids so it would be nice to see what they can do as Islanders. I'm fine if there are no big trades this offseason. Just stay away from the Rolston type moves or Boyes type of moves.

I agree keaner. Nino should fit the bill nicely. Isles have taken the time to draft and develop these kids so it would be nice to see what they can do as Islanders. I'm fine if there are no big trades this offseason. Just stay away from the Rolston type moves or Boyes type of moves.
- ses111

I would like to sign on as a sponsor of this post. Sums up my view exactly.

((UIF))

I agree keaner. Nino should fit the bill nicely. Isles have taken the time to draft and develop these kids so it would be nice to see what they can do as Islanders. I'm fine if there are no big trades this offseason. Just stay away from the Rolston type moves or Boyes type of moves.
- ses111

We "should" be past those types of moves, though I can't dismiss the idea of one Boyes like signing as insurance in case Strome and Nino disappoint in camp. I consider that highly unlikely though, given their level of talent and focus. I'd like one or two signings with the main emphesis on finding a legit top pairing dman or at least top 4. From there, we can let the talent we've build take over. I think this is the necessary progression of this teams overall development.

Zzkeaner17zZ

We "should" be past those types of moves, though I can't dismiss the idea of one Boyes like signing as insurance in case Strome and Nino disappoint in camp. I consider that highly unlikely though, given their level of talent and focus. I'd like one or two signings with the main emphesis on finding a legit top pairing dman or at least top 4. From there, we can let the talent we've build take over. I think this is the necessary progression of this teams overall development.

Zzkeaner17zZ
- keaner17

Yes one signing of a top 4 dman would be nice otherwise we let the talent like Nino and Strome take over. I have high hopes for Strome especially. Will be interesting if Reinhart makes the team.

Top-6 guys, sure. Potential top-line power forwards...I think we've been after one of those for a long, long time. We traded Bertuzzi before he became that player for us, and held onto Isbister far too long hoping he'd develop into it. After that...I can't really think of anyone who approached that description for the Isles. And those kinds of players don't seem to be available all too often.

((UIF))
- UIF

Good point. I'm excited to see what he can do this year

Nino said in interviews with foreign outlets during the Worlds that he was focused on training as hard as he can in the offseason and making the Islanders out of camp next season. His comments on the Isles' website after the Worlds were similar. Haven't seen those comments mentioned anywhere within the hockey media when these ridiculous proposals come up about who we're giving Nino away to in a given week.

The only controversy that will arise, imo, is if he comes to camp and is grossly outplayed there by Strome, Nelson and Lee. The way for him to avoid that controversy is to do exactly what he said...train hard in the offseason and look even better in camp than he did at the Worlds.

((UIF))
- UIF

It's the typical Dirty Laundry effect. The public only knows what it's fed. I use the Duke Lacrosse team as the perfect example. Accused of rape..huge media uproar...Jesse Jackson and Sharpton march in protest...media brands the Lacrosse kids rapists, teams season is canceled....quietly after, it turns out the girl admits to lying and she was never touched by a single person on the team. Yet to this day, most people associate Duke Lacrosse with that initial story. All because the story of their innocence wasn't nearly as jaw dropping as their supposed guilt.

Zzkeaner17zZ

Yes one signing of a top 4 dman would be nice otherwise we let the talent like Nino and Strome take over. I have high hopes for Strome especially. Will be interesting if Reinhart makes the team.
- ses111

Personally I don't think Reinhart has a shot in hell at making the team this year. He didn't have a bad year in Edmonton but he didn't exactly dominate either. For the type of role we're going to expect him to play, I don't think he'll be ready for a few years.

I want to see Nino on the Isles. He's made a lot of progress as a player over the past season...it'd suck to have spent that time developing him for someone else.

I disagree about what he should be moved for if he is moved though. Since we took the time to try to develop a true top-line power forward, we should only trade him as part of a package (with the first rounder and maybe something else) for an established top-line power forward, imo. If that's dramatically overstating Nino's value, than I just don't think he should be on the trading block at all. If he has diminished value, then the potential of what he can be is worth more to the club than what they'd get in a trade for him.

((UIF))
- UIF

Agreed, don't want him traded.

Personally I don't think Reinhart has a shot in hell at making the team this year. He didn't have a bad year in Edmonton but he didn't exactly dominate either. For the type of role we're going to expect him to play, I don't think he'll be ready for a few years.
- eichiefs9

I also think Reinhart will not be ready. I'm hoping by next year he will make the team.