Then pray for the wee beasties, or as Booth says it "prey on the wee beasties"
- A_SteamingLombardi

that's something I hope Gillis' nips in the bud. I'm cool with him killing things as long as he's ready to go at camp.

Last year he wasn't even close to being ready to play and it cost him the whole year.

He better damn well be raedy to play in October or it will be Booth hunting season in Vancouver.

You guys are overvaluing your own players like Oiler fans do.

Let me give you some facts. I'll take one Regehr over two Edlers. Regehr is a physical, bruising, tough, sound, playoff d-man. Edler makes mistakes, is a wuss, and is not built of the playoffs.

Jack Johnson is a whole different story. For whatever reason, the guy was always hyped up to be something that he'll never be. He was probably the most overrated player for a few seasons leading up the trade.
- RedwingsAreKHL

Is this an expression now?? Y'ALL DON'T KNOW ME

Fractured ankle with surgery....
- Nucker101

Still at 4 months you'd hope he's close to healed depending on how bad it was.

I wonder if AV figured he'd have him back for the playoffs? He seemed to always be the last to know when guys were injuried.

You guys are overvaluing your own players like Oiler fans do.

Let me give you some facts. I'll take one Regehr over two Edlers. Regehr is a physical, bruising, tough, sound, playoff d-man. Edler makes mistakes, is a wuss, and is not built of the playoffs.

Jack Johnson is a whole different story. For whatever reason, the guy was always hyped up to be something that he'll never be. He was probably the most overrated player for a few seasons leading up the trade.
- RedwingsAreKHL

I think the arguement is more half a year of Reggie or 6 yeras of Eddy.

pretty sure that one isn't even close.

You guys are overvaluing your own players like Oiler fans do.

Let me give you some facts. I'll take one Regehr over two Edlers. Regehr is a physical, bruising, tough, sound, playoff d-man. Edler makes mistakes, is a wuss, and is not built of the playoffs.

Jack Johnson is a whole different story. For whatever reason, the guy was always hyped up to be something that he'll never be. He was probably the most overrated player for a few seasons leading up the trade.
- RedwingsAreKHL

Dude, I think you're hate for Euros and hard-on for North Americans is clouding your view of reality. There's tons of soft North American players, and tons of "gritty" North American players that haven't done poop in the playoffs, while some Euro's play a really gritty game or some "soft" ones have had great playoffs before.

Edler isn't as soft as you think, he lays out some big hits and blocks shot as much as most d-men do. Of course he's never going to be an after the whistle tough guy like your boys Doughty, Brown, etc. The game is played between the whistles.

Still at 4 months you'd hope he's close to healed depending on how bad it was.

I wonder if AV figured he'd have him back for the playoffs? He seemed to always be the last to know when guys were injuried.
- IanEsplen

Well it's only been 2 and a half months since the surgery. I'm guessing he should be back skating soon though.

I think the arguement is more half a year of Reggie or 6 yeras of Eddy.

pretty sure that one isn't even close.
- IanEsplen

I wouldn't want six years of Edler, with the money, cap hit, mistakes, and backing down from confrontations... Sorry. I'd rather play a prospect with a decent cap hit then him.

Dude, I think you're hate for Euros and hard-on for North Americans is clouding your view of reality. There's tons of soft North American players, and tons of "gritty" North American players that haven't done poop in the playoffs, while some Euro's play a really gritty game or some "soft" ones have had great playoffs before.
- Nucker101

I don't have a hatred for Euros. IMO, Chara is the best D-man in the league and I would love to have him on my team. Malkin is pretty darn good as well. I can't stand the wimpy North American just as much as the Euro. Hence, Doughty is often on my pooplist for being the biggest puss in the game. I was only talking about Edler here. Not other Euros. Edler is a puss. Yes, he'll throw a big hit here and there, but when the going gets tough, he won't go to war for his teammates. And, to me, thats what matters most in the playoffs and in the long-term.

Edler isn't as soft as you think, he lays out some big hits and blocks shot as much as most d-men do. Of course he's never going to be an after the whistle tough guy like your boys Doughty, Brown, etc. The game is played between the whistles.
- Nucker101

Heh. Doughty, I can't disagree. Brown did pay his dues with a few fights early in his career. Would i like him to back up his hits with fists occasionally? YES.

2 years left at $4.65m, I'd rather keep Kesler.
- 1970vintage

Move Kesler out to the wing. If he keeps playing center he won't have much of a career left anyway.

How about at looking at center

sedin (3ish more years hopefully)
Mackinnon (Proabably franchise center for the next 12 years)
Bjustad (Perfect third line center for now and 2nd line center in a couple years)
Lappy/Gaunce (split duties on 4th gaunce eventually becomes third line center

You have to give to get florida would be stupid to turn that down
- The_Kuze

Yeah, the same way Vancouver would be stupid to offer it.

You guys are overvaluing your own players like Oiler fans do.

Let me give you some facts. I'll take one Regehr over two Edlers. Regehr is a physical, bruising, tough, sound, playoff d-man. Edler makes mistakes, is a wuss, and is not built of the playoffs.

Jack Johnson is a whole different story. For whatever reason, the guy was always hyped up to be something that he'll never be. He was probably the most overrated player for a few seasons leading up the trade.
- RedwingsAreKHL

You are just wrong. IF the Canucks made Edler available, which they are unlikely to do, they would have teams lining up with offers for them. This is not my assumption, this is fact. The offers would be at least as good, likely better, than what was offered for either J Johnson, E Johnson, Golioski, etc.

Move Kesler out to the wing. If he keeps playing center he won't have much of a career left anyway.
- AlexF

Can't afford to add another $4.6m player without subtracting two...

I wouldn't want six years of Edler, with the money, cap hit, mistakes, and backing down from confrontations... Sorry. I'd rather play a prospect with a decent cap hit then him.
- RedwingsAreKHL

You just have no idea what you're talking about.

Move Kesler out to the wing. If he keeps playing center he won't have much of a career left anyway.
- AlexF

So you'd move him to the wing where the play tends to be even more physical???

I'm thinking he's fine now. there were rumours of him being ready at some point in the playoffs.

And I would imagine that you can be moved off of IR somehow in the offseason.

And if not,

"Booth you healthy yet?"

"I don't know Mike, I'm still sore."

"Okay, looks like you'll be spending the next two years on IR, we need the cap room."

"What? Yah I feel much better now"
- IanEsplen

I'm sure Booth could be taken off IR in order to be bought out. I'm sure he wouldn't mind one bit getting 2 paychecks this year. And with the lack of good free agents this year, he'd likely get $3.5-$4.5 a year on his next contract anyways, with more term.

There's no way he gets bought out though. Even if Vancouver wanted to get rid of him, which they don't, they could trade him.

You are just wrong. IF the Canucks made Edler available, which they are unlikely to do, they would have teams lining up with offers for them. This is not my assumption, this is fact. The offers would be at least as good, likely better, than what was offered for either J Johnson, E Johnson, Golioski, etc.
- KB3Point0

Edler won't even fetch a 1st round pick. Jack Johnson was extremely over-hyped and fetched Jeff Carter. It won't be the same for Edler.

Do you guys think Edler would fetch a guy like B. Schenn? I doubt the Flyers would even make that trade.

Jack Johnson AND a 1st for Carter.
Erik Johnson and McClement to a desperate and stupid GM for Stewart and Shattenkirk.

The latter is the exception, not the rule. You're likely looking at a return similar to the former as Edler and J. Johnson have similar value.
- MaximumBone

Edler has more value than either Johnson did. He has more value than Goligoski did (traded for some guy named Neal).

The Canucks aren't trading Edler unless they are forced to by the quality of the offer. They don't want to trade him. They don't need to trade him. If they get blown away by the offer, which they could, then they will be forced to consider it.

He has many gold stars. Who gave Lou that contract? Who traded Hodjson for 4th liner Kassian? Who trade Grabner and a 1st for Ballard? Most overrated gm in the league. He just inherited a burke and nonis built team and couldn't make them better. Jason Garrsion 5 year contract after 1 good season?
- Allstarzz

Hodgson ended the season on a crappy team in Buffalo on the 4th line because he's so bad defensively and his skating sucks. Kassian wasn't on the 2nd line in Vancouver because AV was awful.

Grabner was so good he got waived by Florida.

Garrison was the team's best overall defenceman last year, even without PP time.

Luongo's contract was urged by ownership. The only reason they want to trade him now is because Schneider has been so good, not because Lui has been bad.

Get your facts straight.

I think the arguement is more half a year of Reggie or 6 yeras of Eddy.

pretty sure that one isn't even close.
- IanEsplen

Straight up, with the same contract length, I'd still take Edler in a heartbeat over Regehr.

So you'd move him to the wing where the play tends to be even more physical???
- KB3Point0

Yes. (and I disagree with the play being more physical on the wing... )

Edler won't even fetch a 1st round pick. Jack Johnson was extremely over-hyped and fetched Jeff Carter. It won't be the same for Edler.

Do you guys think Edler would fetch a guy like B. Schenn? I doubt the Flyers would even make that trade.
- RedwingsAreKHL

Not even a 1st round pick? You're clueless. Just no concept of reality.

Yes. (and I disagree with the play being more physical on the wing... )
- DrChristianTroy

I can understand wanting to move him to wing based on his style of play, but wingers are the ones responsible for going into the corners. They typically do more banging and crashing than centers do. They also spend more time in front of the net taking abuse from defencemen. Centers spend a little more time in their own zone.

I can understand wanting to move him to wing based on his style of play, but wingers are the ones responsible for going into the corners. They typically do more banging and crashing than centers do. They also spend more time in front of the net taking abuse from defencemen. Centers spend a little more time in their own zone.
- KB3Point0

Forecheck banging/crashing/corner digging is less physically taxing than defensive zone shadowing/corner digging/net clearing IMO.

Only in Vancouver is Burrows a top 6 forward. 4th liner on any other team. Trade him for Horcoff. There's your 3rd line center.
- Allstarzz

Look, it's pretty clear you have no real talent for trolling, why not just move along and let the grownups talk huh?

Only in Vancouver is Burrows a top 6 forward. 4th liner on any other team. Trade him for Horcoff. There's your 3rd line center.
- Allstarzz

Weak. Come on man!