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DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 6 @ 7:23 PM ET
Sorry, Roy was brutal in Vancouver - and it was his own doing. I agree AV needed to go but he did not deserve all the blame. A player who is apparently seeking 6 mil a season should be able to perform in the role he was given. He was terrible.

I'd be happy with a buyout on Booth. Not worth the money. Downward trending for a while now and he seems more interested in hunting than playing hockey.

- Canuckleafer


Sorry, but that's bullsh!t. You can't expect a guy with a playmaking top 6 skillset to perform & produce in an unstable role with incompatible line mates just because he's capable of doing so if used properly.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 7:25 PM ET
How is John Stevens getting all this favorable pub?

Hate it when the local media's flavor of the week becomes everyone's dream hire.

- DrChristianTroy



DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 6 @ 7:33 PM ET

- Nucker101


What... is John Stevens your boy?
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 7:36 PM ET
How is John Stevens getting all this favorable pub?

Hate it when the local media's flavor of the week becomes everyone's dream hire.

- DrChristianTroy

Botchford's boner. Can't see it happening!
docmorgan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: stall, Crosby, perry Giroux, T, BC
Joined: 01.06.2011

Jun 6 @ 7:51 PM ET
You guys are overvaluing your own players like Oiler fans do.

Let me give you some facts. I'll take one Regehr over two Edlers. Regehr is a physical, bruising, tough, sound, playoff d-man. Edler makes mistakes, is a wuss, and is not built of the playoffs.

Jack Johnson is a whole different story. For whatever reason, the guy was always hyped up to be something that he'll never be. He was probably the most overrated player for a few seasons leading up the trade.

- RedwingsAreKHL

Where exactly are the facts in this post?
DrChristianTroy
Location: 2028 Stanley Cup Champions
Joined: 11.10.2006

Jun 6 @ 7:55 PM ET
Gulutzan meeting with management on Friday.
1970vintage
Seattle Kraken
Location: BC
Joined: 11.11.2010

Jun 6 @ 8:10 PM ET
Where exactly are the facts in this post?
- docmorgan


Troll - check
Opinionated - check
Ignorant - check
Asinine - check

Plenty of facts to go around
DariusKnight
Vancouver Canucks
Location: "The Alien has landed in Vancouver!"
Joined: 03.09.2006

Jun 6 @ 8:44 PM ET
Troll - check
Opinionated - check
Ignorant - check
Asinine - check

Plenty of facts to go around

- 1970vintage


Don't you mean (frank)s?
bloatedmosquito
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I’m a dose of reality in this cesspool of glee
Joined: 10.22.2011

Jun 6 @ 8:45 PM ET
It's quite obvious the Oil are loaded at every position. They simply miss the playoffs each year because they can't wait to get the (frank) out of Edmonton.
- golfingsince


LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 9:01 PM ET
You think St Louis might be a good trading partner with Andy McDonald retiring?
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:50 PM ET
You think St Louis might be a good trading partner with Andy McDonald retiring?
- LeftCoaster

Maybe. Do you think we will see an offer sheet on Shattenkirk or Peitrangelo.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:51 PM ET
You think St Louis might be a good trading partner with Andy McDonald retiring?
- LeftCoaster


Probably, just not with us. There is no way they give us any of the players I would want.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 6 @ 9:54 PM ET
Probably, just not with us. There is no way they give us any of the players I would want.
- golfingsince

Gillis has been after Backes for years. Hasn't work yet. They aren't giving up what we need.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 9:55 PM ET
micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 6 @ 9:58 PM ET
Maybe. Do you think we will see an offer sheet on Shattenkirk or Peitrangelo.
- thundachunk


Our cap situation isn't conducive to stealing talent. And our prospect pool is too shallow to pay for it in picks. We're stuck trying to make a trade. Plenty of dummies out there if you can get to them first.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:05 PM ET
Our cap situation isn't conducive to stealing talent. And our prospect pool is too shallow to pay for it in picks. We're stuck trying to make a trade. Plenty of dummies out there if you can get to them first.
- micah555

I agree and I'm not impressed with the aged free agent pool this year. Going to be a strange summer. I don't know who I would want. Yikes.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 10:06 PM ET
What... is John Stevens your boy?
- DrChristianTroy


(frank) no! I'm on your side on this one.
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:13 PM ET
I agree and I'm not impressed with the aged free agent pool this year. Going to be a strange summer. I don't know who I would want. Yikes.
- thundachunk


Gillis has made a splash pretty much every year on July 1. The key this year IMO is to wait a week or two after the teams that have cap space have used most of it and see who is left that has some value to our team that can be had for a year or 2 at a bargain.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 10:13 PM ET
Maybe. Do you think we will see an offer sheet on Shattenkirk or Peitrangelo.
- thundachunk

Good thing I'm not the GM because I'd really (frank) with the lineup!!



micah555
Vancouver Canucks
Location: I look forward to the heartache and tears. - Marwood, BC
Joined: 10.03.2007

Jun 6 @ 10:20 PM ET
Gillis has made a splash pretty much every year on July 1. The key this year IMO is to wait a week or two after the teams that have cap space have used most of it and see who is left that has some value to our team that can be had for a year or 2 at a bargain.
- golfingsince


Agreed. There are bound to be some good steals, especially with the buyouts that are bound to happen. A lot of guys who look like crap at their current pay scale will look great at half the price.

I think the college scouts have also been pretty helpful, so there is that too.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

Jun 6 @ 10:21 PM ET
Good thing I'm not the GM because I'd really (frank) with the lineup!!
- LeftCoaster

I only have 6 or 7 players on my team for next season. If that.
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 10:22 PM ET
Agreed. There are bound to be some good steals, especially with the buyouts that are bound to happen. A lot of guys who look like crap at their current pay scale will look great at half the price.

I think the college scouts have also been pretty helpful, so there is that too.

- micah555

We'll have no money for any UFA's, Gillis will just be fortunate to get under the cap and ice a full roster. Unless he does what I want, which is trade a few core players!
LeftCoaster
Location: Valley Of The Sun
Joined: 07.03.2009

Jun 6 @ 10:25 PM ET
I only have 6 or 7 players on my team for next season. If that.
- thundachunk

In all honesty I'd trade Kesler, Edler, Schneider & Bieksa to change the culture of this team...IF...I could get positional value for each of them.

Luongo as well, but he won't get much of a return.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 10:28 PM ET
Gulutzan meeting with management on Friday.
- DrChristianTroy


Meh, he had a crappy team in Dallas but didn't overachieve at all either. He was a "hot" AHL coach like Eakins though.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

Jun 6 @ 10:33 PM ET
In all honesty I'd trade Kesler, Edler, Schneider & Bieksa to change the culture of this team...IF...I could get positional value for each of them.

Luongo as well, but he won't get much of a return.

- LeftCoaster


It's way too hard to pull that many trades off over a short period of time, it's just never going to happen. Trading both goalies would be stupid, I'd keep Schneider for sure and rather move Luongo for nothing. Not to mention that Bieksa and Kesler have NTC's, which again makes it difficult to get full trade value since Gillis would lose leverage.
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