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JVince11
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Alright Sigfreid, Lets Go Roy... Eye of the freaking Tiger!!!, AK
Joined: 07.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 12:21 AM ET
I can care less if you are or not
- SABRES 89


I thought retirement was supposed to be happy.... not more useless thsn Stephan Hawkings P90X videos
aaglass
Edmonton Oilers
Location: coldlake, AB
Joined: 01.18.2013

Jun 6 @ 12:24 AM ET
This isn't the Canes blog. It's the Sabres blog. Just so you know.
- HonkFortheGoose

Hemsky & 7th for the 5th
sabrewolf301
Buffalo Sabres
Location: NY
Joined: 06.02.2013

Jun 6 @ 12:26 AM ET
Over pay much new guy?
- JVince11

I was Gonna say the 16th instead of 8th But then people would say it wouldn't be enough.
Ihatebrianburke
Edmonton Oilers
Location: edmonton, AB
Joined: 12.19.2010

Jun 6 @ 12:27 AM ET
7th overall, Anaheim's 2nd rounder, Hartikainen for 5th overall
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 6 @ 12:31 AM ET
Would anyone give up both the #8 and #16 to move up to #5 to get one of Drouin, Barkov, or Nichuskin?
SABRES 89
Season Ticket Holder
Buffalo Sabres
Location: I'm very Happy to be here. Las Vegas Via Buffalo N.Y.
Joined: 02.17.2007

Jun 6 @ 12:31 AM ET
I thought retirement was supposed to be happy.... not more useless thsn Stephan Hawkings P90X videos
- JVince11

What ?
laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 6 @ 12:34 AM ET

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laughs2907
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Wuhan, China
Joined: 07.18.2006

Jun 6 @ 12:36 AM ET
7th overall, Anaheim's 2nd rounder, Hartikainen for 5th overall
- Ihatebrianburke


Seems like a good proposal to me.
716buffalo
Joined: 05.31.2013

Jun 6 @ 12:38 AM ET
I was Gonna say the 16th instead of 8th But then people would say it wouldn't be enough.
- sabrewolf301


Thtd still be too much. Only moving up 2 spots. If its not.1, 2,or.3 forget it. Sell.the old weight and draft 4 guys in first round
8th monahan
16th
21st maybe a miller trade, plus a couple prospectsprospects
27, other dead weight.not vanek ........
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Jun 6 @ 12:43 AM ET
I think the oilers could put together a solid package for the 5th pick. We have a surprising amount of promising D prospects which could be used in Carolina as well as a still very strong 7th pick (Darnell nurse likely still available) two second round picks. If they want a player like Hemsky or a smid or nick Schultz (both guys would require a solid replacement but they are useful on other teams especially a lacking blue line in Carolina)

I'm not saying all of this get it done, but I'm sure a combination of these picks and players can get the job done for Edmonton to move up and have a chance at Barkov or Nichushkin, as well as Monahan if the desire is there as well
Buffalo--Sabres
Buffalo Sabres
Location: 2 15/16, NY
Joined: 07.07.2010

Jun 6 @ 1:11 AM ET

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Oh Dam (or lack thereof)
Meeqsb
Colorado Avalanche
Location: Denver
Joined: 10.13.2011

Jun 6 @ 1:15 AM ET
Would anyone give up both the #8 and #16 to move up to #5 to get one of Drouin, Barkov, or Nichuskin?
- Pierceme69


Naw, thats a little much. 2 top 20 players wouldn't be worth that
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:27 AM ET
Rumor chart has Streit and Yandle 55% and 20% to the Sabres, Derek Roy 20% to the Sabres Ray Whitney 30 % he said he would never play for Buffalo.

Also mentioned to the Sabres,
Mason Raymond
Grant Clitsome
Cam Barker

sorry didn't know if everyone was able to see the chart or not.

- SABRES 89


Thanks for the update
None of those names make much sense to me
ESP if we're rebuilding
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:28 AM ET
Naw, thats a little much. 2 top 20 players wouldn't be worth that
- Meeqsb

All the players after 5 are not franchise type guys. Drouin, Barkov, and Nichuskin are very likely to be.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:31 AM ET
ennis, McCabe, Larsson 8th, 52th and 2014 Second Round pick(LA) For 5th.
- sabrewolf301


Whoa!
That is WAY too much...
I'd give the 8th, plus ONE of those other assets u mentioned

And in all honesty,
If it goes Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin & Barkov in the top4...
The guy I'd take 5th would be Lindholm, who very well may be there at #8
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:33 AM ET
Whoa!
That is WAY too much...
I'd give the 8th, plus ONE of those other assets u mentioned

And in all honesty,
If it goes Jones, MacKinnon, Drouin & Barkov in the top4...
The guy I'd take 5th would be Lindholm, who very well may be there at #8

- jdfitz77

You like Lindholm over Nichuskin?
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:42 AM ET
7th overall, Anaheim's 2nd rounder, Hartikainen for 5th overall
- Ihatebrianburke

if it aint for mackinnon or jones that's too much.

imo, a 2nd by itself should be enough to move up 2 spots. that's generally the going rate anyway.
but if you were set on giving up a body, it'd have to be someone lesser. pitlick, Hamilton etc
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:43 AM ET
All the players after 5 are not franchise type guys. Drouin, Barkov, and Nichuskin are very likely to be.
- Pierceme69

so much hype.
the media owns us
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:43 AM ET
Would anyone give up both the #8 and #16 to move up to #5 to get one of Drouin, Barkov, or Nichuskin?
- Pierceme69


Only if it was Barkov
Otherwise, we'd likely get something like Lindholm or Monahan at 8,
And there'd be a variety of solid options at 16 as well
HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:46 AM ET
I think the oilers could put together a solid package for the 5th pick. We have a surprising amount of promising D prospects which could be used in Carolina as well as a still very strong 7th pick (Darnell nurse likely still available) two second round picks. If they want a player like Hemsky or a smid or nick Schultz (both guys would require a solid replacement but they are useful on other teams especially a lacking blue line in Carolina)

I'm not saying all of this get it done, but I'm sure a combination of these picks and players can get the job done for Edmonton to move up and have a chance at Barkov or Nichushkin, as well as Monahan if the desire is there as well

- CrustyRooster

we cant afford to give up anyone in our top 6. our defence is already atrocious.
imo, we really cant afford to give up many roster players whatsoever without getting one in return. hemsky might be the only player who's become redundant
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:51 AM ET
Only if it was Barkov
Otherwise, we'd likely get something like Lindholm or Monahan at 8,
And there'd be a variety of solid options at 16 as well

- jdfitz77

Lindholm is too small in my opinion. We have enough small centers. I like Monahan at 6'2". Barkov is the guy in the draft I'd most like to have. He's already got a man's body and has played against men in Finland. The only small center I'd want is MacKinnon and I don't see us getting up to #2 to take him.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:51 AM ET
You like Lindholm over Nichuskin?
- Pierceme69


I do
Nichuskin is a "boom or bust" guy IMO
If he didn't have an "out" in his KHL contract, then he'd likely have dropped to at least 16, and at tht point I'd def take a shot on him...
But trading up to 5 for him...
Just wouldn't do it
If he drops to us at 8th I prob would

And I really like Lindholm
He's putting up better #s than Backstrom did at the same age,
And is very solid all-around

He doesn't have the "Malkin-like" ceiling of Nichuskin, but he'll be very "Bergeron-esque" IMO, and I don't think he has the "bust" potential,

And the KHL could still be a factor
I've only heard his agent say he could get out of that deal,
I've heard nothing from that team
At the very least, they'll prob want a hefty buyout to release him
Pierceme69
Buffalo Sabres
Location: Las Vegas, NV
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:55 AM ET
I do
Nichuskin is a "boom or bust" guy IMO
If he didn't have an "out" in his KHL contract, then he'd likely have dropped to at least 16, and at tht point I'd def take a shot on him...
But trading up to 5 for him...
Just wouldn't do it
If he drops to us at 8th I prob would

And I really like Lindholm
He's putting up better #s than Backstrom did at the same age,
And is very solid all-around

He doesn't have the "Malkin-like" ceiling of Nichuskin, but he'll be very "Bergeron-esque" IMO, and I don't think he has the "bust" potential,

And the KHL could still be a factor
I've only heard his agent say he could get out of that deal,
I've heard nothing from that team
At the very least, they'll prob want a hefty buyout to release him

- jdfitz77

From what I understand his deal is that he plays in the NHL or he has to go back to the KHL. No AHL. It's similar to Grigs except I don't think there is the 10 game try out period.
jdfitz77
Buffalo Sabres
Location: buffalo, NY
Joined: 05.21.2007

Jun 6 @ 1:55 AM ET
I think the oilers could put together a solid package for the 5th pick. We have a surprising amount of promising D prospects which could be used in Carolina as well as a still very strong 7th pick (Darnell nurse likely still available) two second round picks. If they want a player like Hemsky or a smid or nick Schultz (both guys would require a solid replacement but they are useful on other teams especially a lacking blue line in Carolina)

I'm not saying all of this get it done, but I'm sure a combination of these picks and players can get the job done for Edmonton to move up and have a chance at Barkov or Nichushkin, as well as Monahan if the desire is there as well

- CrustyRooster


Who is it you're moving up for if you're the Oilers?
It it just to get ahead of Calgary so they don't take the guy u want?
Bc if u guys & Carolina want the same guy, then I doubt they're trading back unless u give them something more significant

There prob is a deal to be made there though
CrustyRooster
Edmonton Oilers
Location: AB
Joined: 05.22.2013

Jun 6 @ 2:00 AM ET
we cant afford to give up anyone in our top 6. our defence is already atrocious.
imo, we really cant afford to give up many roster players whatsoever without getting one in return. hemsky might be the only player who's become redundant

- hugefemale dog77

Yeah I agree with you, I said only if the oilers already acquired a sure fire replacement you can add a smid or nick Schultz

I think that 7th anaheims second and a prospect like but not necessarily Musil should be enough to get the job done
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