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MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:07 PM ET
Makes him look less guilty that way...

That being said, I doubt he was trying to hurt Keith, same as Keith's stupid swing.

- wolfhounds


Carter was guilty regardless of that. He instigated the retaliation from Keith with a Richard move. He deserved to get whacked. Just not in the face. Unfortunately, the stick got away from Keith.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 5 @ 10:08 PM ET
He has been. Unfortunately, Letang hasn't been invisible, his play has been noticeably bad.
- Jsaquella

Crosby has had turnovers this series that have resulted in goals.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 10:08 PM ET
Ok but we all know letang is a pure offensive damn... Something this team needs and is really going to Ned once kimmo retires
- Philly1980


Sure. But he's going to be paid like a Weber or Pietrangelo, who are all around defensemen.

If they could get Letang for Yandle or Edler money, sign me right up.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:09 PM ET
I wonder how the Flyers would match up against the Bruins in this series.
- flyer_nutter


The Flyers would get murdered.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 10:09 PM ET
Crosby has had turnovers this series that have resulted in goals.
- Philly1980


He's had one, on a bouncing pass from Letang
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:09 PM ET
Sure. But he's going to be paid like a Weber or Pietrangelo, who are all around defensemen.

If they could get Letang for Yandle or Edler money, sign me right up.

- Jsaquella


Is that Brian Campbell type money?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:09 PM ET
Sure. But he's going to be paid like a Weber or Pietrangelo, who are all around defensemen.

If they could get Letang for Yandle or Edler money, sign me right up.

- Jsaquella


You're right, he's not on the level of Weber or Pietrangelo.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 5 @ 10:10 PM ET
Marchand is such a douche.
flyer_nutter
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Unleash the Peanuts, MB
Joined: 10.16.2008

Jun 5 @ 10:11 PM ET
The Flyers would get murdered.
- stveshdy


Haha I think we would see Mason before the end of game 1.

Boston really makes teams pay for turnovers.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 5 @ 10:12 PM ET
Sure. But he's going to be paid like a Weber or Pietrangelo, who are all around defensemen.

If they could get Letang for Yandle or Edler money, sign me right up.

- Jsaquella

Carle getting 5.5... 7 isn't that much for letang. If weber were to go to ufa this year you know he would get close to 9. Another guy who didnt have a good year: weber.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:12 PM ET
Is that Brian Campbell type money?
- stveshdy


Weber, Suter, Doughty, and Campbell have Cap hits 7M or higher.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:12 PM ET
Haha I think we would see Mason before the end of game 1.

Boston really makes teams pay for turnovers.

- flyer_nutter


Bryz would be afraid. "Bears in woods".
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 10:13 PM ET
You're right, he's not on the level of Weber or Pietrangelo.
- MJL


That was my point all along. He's not elite. He's gonna be paid like he is, and the team that signs him will be disappointed if they think he's going to be a Weber, Pietrangelo or Doughty type guy.

He has elite offensive ability, but he makes too many mistakes in his own end to justify the kind of commitment he'll get from somebody.
jstross
Joined: 06.25.2012

Jun 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
Isn't Letang under contract for another whole season?
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
I wonder how the Flyers would match up against the Bruins in this series.
- flyer_nutter

No team is beating Rask in a 7 game series right now.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
Carle getting 5.5... 7 isn't that much for letang. If weber were to go to ufa this year you know he would get close to 9. Another guy who didnt have a good year: weber.
- Philly1980


$5.5mm is too much for Carle, and $7mm is too much for Letang.

Weber's a far better all around defenseman than Letang. He's also got a monster deal that, with the new cap recapture penalties, I am ecstatic that Nashville matched.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
Weber, Suter, Doughty, and Campbell have Cap hits 7M or higher.
- MJL


Letang should get at least 6.5M

His style of play is what the NHL defenseman are becoming.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 10:14 PM ET
Isn't Letang under contract for another whole season?
- jstross


Yep. He'll be a UFA just in time for a cap increase.
wolfhounds
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: dicky seamus, PA
Joined: 06.02.2009

Jun 5 @ 10:15 PM ET
Letang should get at least 6.5M

His style of play is what the NHL defenseman are becoming.

- stveshdy


Forwards? He's always at the front of the net.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:15 PM ET
That was my point all along. He's not elite. He's gonna be paid like he is, and the team that signs him will be disappointed if they think he's going to be a Weber, Pietrangelo or Doughty type guy.

He has elite offensive ability, but he makes too many mistakes in his own end to justify the kind of commitment he'll get from somebody.

- Jsaquella


I think he is elite. He's a finalist for the Norris. I think he's much better defensively then you're giving him credit for. He's not a shutdown guy like a Weber is. But he's normally solid. If he only get's 7M a year, they got him at a good number.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:16 PM ET
Forwards? He's always at the front of the net.
- wolfhounds


Seems like most teams need one puck moving offensive defenseman.
Philly1980
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 12.30.2011

Jun 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
$5.5mm is too much for Carle, and $7mm is too much for Letang.

Weber's a far better all around defenseman than Letang. He's also got a monster deal that, with the new cap recapture penalties, I am ecstatic that Nashville matched.

- Jsaquella

According to you it is and I agree...our opinions don't drive the market up, NHL gms do. They will pay 7 for letang. 7.8 is a steals or weber. I'm sure they ll get more buyouts from the next cba lol
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
I think he is elite. He's a finalist for the Norris. I think he's much better defensively then you're giving him credit for. He's not a shutdown guy like a Weber is. But he's normally solid. If he only get's 7M a year, they got him at a good number.
- MJL


Mike Green was a Norris finalist. The biggest issue is that he has lapses and sometimes makes mind numbingly bad decisions in his own end. Everyone has brain farts, for Letang they happen more than they should with an elite defensemen.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
Seems like most teams need one puck moving offensive defenseman.
- stveshdy


The 4 remaining teams have two or more.
stveshdy
Philadelphia Flyers
Joined: 06.28.2010

Jun 5 @ 10:17 PM ET
I think he is elite. He's a finalist for the Norris. I think he's much better defensively then you're giving him credit for. He's not a shutdown guy like a Weber is. But he's normally solid. If he only get's 7M a year, they got him at a good number.
- MJL


The Pens would like to sign him but they have Crosby and Malkin. Not sure they have the cap space to keep three guys at that price (7M and up).
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