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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 11:29 AM ET
i didnt think the 4th line should have been messed with during the season...i think now during the offseason, im at least ok with the possibility of taking CC off the 4th to the 3rd and slotting nelson in there gives nelson, MM and CM the time to learn each other.

i also am not sure if you are underestimating cizikas offense or overestimating what nelson will be for the team...look at caseys numbers leading up to being on the isles, the kid can put the puck in the net...ive been saying it since the day he came up, he reminds me of a ryan callahan and now that ive seen more of him i think he is a brad marchand type as well..

- LetsGoIsles

I don't think I'm underestimating or overestimating either. I think Nelson is better suited for the third line then cizikas when he's ready of course and who knows if that's this season?
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 5 @ 12:20 PM ET
I don't think I'm underestimating or overestimating either. I think Nelson is better suited for the third line then cizikas when he's ready of course and who knows if that's this season?
- Cptmjl


In theory, when he's absolutely 'ready', Nelson should be a second line center while Cizikas is cut out to be the perfect defensive pest third line center. I think Cizikas is already there in most regards, whereas Nelson will need time. Of course that's assuming he doesn't permnently become a winger. Either Strome or Nelson will likely have to become a winger. Based on what happened at Bridgeport, it looks like that will be Strome on the wing.


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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 12:36 PM ET
In theory, when he's absolutely 'ready', Nelson should be a second line center while Cizikas is cut out to be the perfect defensive pest third line center. I think Cizikas is already there in most regards, whereas Nelson will need time. Of course that's assuming he doesn't permnently become a winger. Either Strome or Nelson will likely have to become a winger. Based on what happened at Bridgeport, it looks like that will be Strome on the wing.


Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17

I don't think we have seen enough of strome to determine where he should play especially when we see how his game translates to the NHL. In a perfect world Nielsen will be the odd man out in a year or two but that's if they both pan out as centers. Either way it looks like we are looking pretty good down the middle, that's something we should all be able to agree on.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 5 @ 12:54 PM ET
I don't think we have seen enough of strome to determine where he should play especially when we see how his game translates to the NHL. In a perfect world Nielsen will be the odd man out in a year or two but that's if they both pan out as centers. Either way it looks like we are looking pretty good down the middle, that's something we should all be able to agree on.
- Cptmjl



Somebody will have a problem with it
Dan Petriw
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 12.03.2006

Jun 5 @ 12:58 PM ET
Somebody will have a problem with it
- Vukota



the isles could be giving out free puppies and someone would female dog...poop Dee would complain cause you would have to go to brooklyn to get them
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 5 @ 1:03 PM ET
the isles could be giving out free puppies and someone would female dog...poop Dee would complain cause you would have to go to brooklyn to get them
- NYI78



are they spayed and neutered?
Are they Pure Breed or Mutts?
If Pure are they ACC papered?
Are shots included?
do they come with the micro chip?
are there any fees or taxes involved with this "free" give away?

XxNYIxX
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 5 @ 1:05 PM ET
the isles could be giving out free puppies and someone would female dog...poop Dee would complain cause you would have to go to brooklyn to get them
- NYI78

UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 5 @ 1:18 PM ET
are they spayed and neutered?
Are they Pure Breed or Mutts?
If Pure are they ACC papered?
Are shots included?
do they come with the micro chip?
are there any fees or taxes involved with this "free" give away?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Solid questions. And NO ONE IS ASKING THIS! Sounds like another Snow-job to me!

((UIF))
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 5 @ 1:24 PM ET
are they spayed and neutered?
Are they Pure Breed or Mutts?
If Pure are they ACC papered?
Are shots included?
do they come with the micro chip?
are there any fees or taxes involved with this "free" give away?

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


PA Parenteau can teach an old dog new tricks!

Xxkeaner17xX
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 1:26 PM ET
PA Parenteau can teach an old dog new tricks!

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17

keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 5 @ 1:29 PM ET

- Cptmjl



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David_Volek
New York Islanders
Location: Trotzville, NY
Joined: 05.01.2013

Jun 5 @ 1:36 PM ET
PA Parenteau can teach an old dog new tricks!

Xxkeaner17xX

- keaner17

Brad Boyes can't.

Not much of a replacement.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 1:47 PM ET
Brad Boyes can't.

Not much of a replacement.

- David_Volek

No he certainly wasn't
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 5 @ 2:10 PM ET
No he certainly wasn't
- Cptmjl

but he was/is the 'ONLY' option!
-kencan98 2013



keaner17
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:11 PM ET
but he was/is the 'ONLY' option!
-kencan98 2013



keaner17

- keaner17

Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 5 @ 2:15 PM ET
B.D. Gallof ‏@BDGallof 10m

btw... Brad Boyes fate seemed sealed by disappearing in playoffs. #isles look for character/players to step up, not disappear.
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t_leafs21
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 2:16 PM ET
I don't understand how you don't acquire Luongo this summer.

A nice 5.3 cap hit for a team that needs to be over the floor anyway and Vancouver is at the point where you literally are probably getting a draft pick with him just for taking the contract.


You were a tough team to beat with Nabokov and Lou will have no pressure and will be much steadier then Nab. I'm calling lou to the Isles at the draft.
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 5 @ 2:18 PM ET
I don't understand how you don't acquire Luongo this summer.


A nice 5.3 cap hit for a team that needs to be over the floor anyway and Vancouver is at the point where you literally are probably getting a draft pick with him just for taking the contract.

- t_leafs21


The Isles are not going to buy out one bad deal just to add another one right after
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:19 PM ET
I don't understand how you don't acquire Luongo this summer.


A nice 5.3 cap hit for a team that needs to be over the floor anyway and Vancouver is at the point where you literally are probably getting a draft pick with him just for taking the contract.

- t_leafs21

Not according to Vancouver fans. Some said Nino+ DP and some others said both Nino and Strome + DP for Luongo plus you get 3 decent years and then you got 7 years on a doozey of a bad contract. We already have one of those. What about you guys? Do you think Reimer is the answer in goal?
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

Jun 5 @ 2:22 PM ET
I don't understand how you don't acquire Luongo this summer.

A nice 5.3 cap hit for a team that needs to be over the floor anyway and Vancouver is at the point where you literally are probably getting a draft pick with him just for taking the contract.


You were a tough team to beat with Nabokov and Lou will have no pressure and will be much steadier then Nab. I'm calling lou to the Isles at the draft.

- t_leafs21


Pretty simple, actually. You just don't pick up the phone when calls come in from Vancouver asking for Nino, Strome or other outlandish returns.

((UIF))
LetsGoIsles
New York Islanders
Location: I'll wait till Halak signs elsewhere and then you can go eat a d!ck- JMO16
Joined: 01.26.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:25 PM ET
I don't understand how you don't acquire Luongo this summer.

A nice 5.3 cap hit for a team that needs to be over the floor anyway and Vancouver is at the point where you literally are probably getting a draft pick with him just for taking the contract.


You were a tough team to beat with Nabokov and Lou will have no pressure and will be much steadier then Nab. I'm calling lou to the Isles at the draft.

- t_leafs21



i love this thinking...isles need it anyway so lets just take every teams mistake so we can get over the floor...sure!!!
t_leafs21
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 2:29 PM ET
Not according to Vancouver fans. Some said Nino+ DP and some others said both Nino and Strome + DP for Luongo plus you get 3 decent years and then you got 7 years on a doozey of a bad contract. We already have one of those. What about you guys? Do you think Reimer is the answer in goal?
- Cptmjl




That's all bullpoop. Vancouver needs Luongo gone, and gone as soon as possible, they have zero capspace and still need 6 forwards to put a team on the ice. If Luongo retires, Vancouver is still stuck with part of the contract as well. According to capgeek, if he was to retire in 2018, so 5 more seasons. Van would hold 1.85 and you would hold 1.725 for the last 4 dead years of the contract. That's not so bad considering you're getting a really good goalie for virtually nothing.

Reimer is still a question mark but he's also only 25. He was a 99th overall pick in 2006 that's been homegrown through our organization. I compare him to Jimmy Howard. Noone thought Howard was for real but he's turned out to be a pretty good keeper, if we let him play there's no reason why he can't be the guy and for a pretty decently cheap contract. He's making 1.8 this year, then he's an RFA so it really comes down to what he does in a full 82 game sked next year.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 5 @ 2:32 PM ET
That's all bullpoop. Vancouver needs Luongo gone, and gone as soon as possible, they have zero capspace and still need 6 forwards to put a team on the ice. If Luongo retires, Vancouver is still stuck with part of the contract as well. According to capgeek, if he was to retire in 2018, so 5 more seasons. Van would hold 1.85 and you would hold 1.725 for the last 4 dead years of the contract. That's not so bad considering you're getting a really good goalie for virtually nothing.

Reimer is still a question mark but he's also only 25. He was a 99th overall pick in 2006 that's been homegrown through our organization. I compare him to Jimmy Howard. Noone thought Howard was for real but he's turned out to be a pretty good keeper, if we let him play there's no reason why he can't be the guy and for a pretty decently cheap contract. He's making 1.8 this year, then he's an RFA so it really comes down to what he does in a full 82 game sked next year.

- t_leafs21

Oh I hear you but if Gillis is expecting any return its not coming from us even with the Dp scenario.
t_leafs21
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Nylander - Matthews - Marner, forever, ON
Joined: 07.26.2010

Jun 5 @ 2:39 PM ET
Oh I hear you but if Gillis is expecting any return its not coming from us even with the Dp scenario.
- Cptmjl



Gillis is a f-uckin idiot, he's not getting s-hit unless it's a severance package, he blew it. He'll be lucky to get a pack of wine gums for lou now.
keaner17
New York Islanders
Location: Prepared for the worst
Joined: 07.12.2007

Jun 5 @ 2:42 PM ET
I don't understand how you don't acquire Luongo this summer.

A nice 5.3 cap hit for a team that needs to be over the floor anyway and Vancouver is at the point where you literally are probably getting a draft pick with him just for taking the contract.


You were a tough team to beat with Nabokov and Lou will have no pressure and will be much steadier then Nab. I'm calling lou to the Isles at the draft.

- t_leafs21


It's not so nice when he's 42 and hanging around. Forget that. We have no need for a contract that expires near rapture. Unless they did a straight up DP for Lou trade, I want nothing to do with it.

keaner17
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