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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

Jun 4 @ 10:25 PM ET
It's going to have to be as I doubt Frans is going anywhere. He is just one of my least favorite Islanders.
- ses111

I've noticed. You an LetsGoIsles seem to have a thing for him . Frans is a smart hockey player pretty defines it. Last season was not his best year nor the season before hopefully we see something different this year? I just think he's more valuable then the return we would get.
2raven2
New York Islanders
Location: Brooks, AB
Joined: 02.09.2013

Jun 4 @ 11:05 PM ET
I hope you're right about that. Really excited to see this kid play.
- Cptmjl

I'm excited also. However not sure where we put all these players.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:05 PM ET
I've noticed. You an LetsGoIsles seem to have a thing for him . Frans is a smart hockey player pretty defines it. Last season was not his best year nor the season before hopefully we see something different this year? I just think he's more valuable then the return we would get.
- Cptmjl


We founded the Frans must go club. Looks like we may have gotten rid of Streit and Boyes. There is no stopping us now
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:18 PM ET
We founded the Frans must go club. Looks like we may have gotten rid of Streit and Boyes. There is no stopping us now
- ses111

FIRE SALE
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:21 PM ET
Because he was signed to play at Bridgeport as far as I know which means there would be a one too many...
- Cptmjl



one too many? Isles are like Hoarders 3 goalies, 8 d-men... just another day on L.I. or in this case BP

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:22 PM ET
You would have pushed Kasper to the Pens thread with your daily DP blogs.
- Cptmjl



This is why I declined, He may bleed yellow & black, but he admits to loving our little rag tag franchise & that's something in my book!

XxNYIxX
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:23 PM ET
It's going to have to be as I doubt Frans is going anywhere. He is just one of my least favorite Islanders.
- ses111



Shame you cant see all the good he does, or how valuable he is to this team.


XxNYIxX
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 4 @ 11:29 PM ET
Moulson Tavares Strome
Bailey Nielson Okposo
Grabner Nelson Niederreiter
Martin Cizikas MacDonald

is how i'd love to see us start the year but jesus...that's a lot of rookies, 1/4 of your forwards and likely another one on defense in donovan. That would be one hell of a young forward core though

in 2 years, if this is our roster and we're making the playoffs, I think Snow pulled it off.


2raven2
New York Islanders
Location: Brooks, AB
Joined: 02.09.2013

Jun 4 @ 11:30 PM ET
Shame you cant see all the good he does, or how valuable he is to this team.


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

So with strome, Brock, and Casey at center, where does Fran's fit in.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:33 PM ET
So with strome, Brock, and Casey at center, where does Frans fit in.
- 2raven2


Strome is the second line center
Frans is the third
Casey the fourth

Brock moves to the wing like he did in the POs

XxNYIxX
2raven2
New York Islanders
Location: Brooks, AB
Joined: 02.09.2013

Jun 4 @ 11:38 PM ET
Moulson Tavares Strome
Bailey Nielson Okposo
Grabner Nelson Niederreiter
Martin Cizikas MacDonald

is how i'd love to see us start the year but jesus...that's a lot of rookies, 1/4 of your forwards and likely another one on defense in donovan. That would be one hell of a young forward core though

in 2 years, if this is our roster and we're making the playoffs, I think Snow pulled it off.

- Isles_since_6

I love it!!!! Plus they still have ullstrome and Joensuu for depth.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:39 PM ET
Shame you cant see all the good he does, or how valuable he is to this team.


XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


X please do not get in our way. If we want Frans gone it will be done. Do not let yourself be destroyed as Obi Wan once was.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:41 PM ET
Say what you will: winning teams have a player like Frans Nielsen on their roster. He is a faceoff guy, a penalty killer, a 40 point scorer, is a good defensive center, scores more often than not in the shootout.

Guys like him play the third line. Guys like him should not be asked to play the type of role he's been asked to play on this team. Guys like him should not be expected to score more than 20 goals.

He should be on the third line next season. Period.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:42 PM ET
X please do not get in our way. If we want Frans gone it will be done.
- ses111



He's better at his position then all 3 guys you are inserting into the line up.

Joensuu is a RFA, but I envision a possible contract problem unless he gets a 1 way deal again.

XxNYIxX
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:46 PM ET
He's better at his position then all 3 guys you are inserting into the line up.

Joensuu is a RFA, but I envision a possible contract problem unless he gets a 1 way deal again.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Sorry X after the interview last year when he basically admitted he has trouble giving it his all at times it left a bad taste in my mouth.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:46 PM ET
I hate to burst everyone's bubbles, but how can you guys just hand this big of a role to Strome or Nelson this quickly? We're coming off a playoff season, we need to add some veterans to this team. I'm all for spending some money on David Clarkson. He is exactly what this team needs. Him, Martin and Cizikas...3 guys who can grind with anyone AND score?? Yes please.

I expect Nino to make this team. I think he is ready. At least, he should be given a realistic shot at making the top line. I don't see Strome or Nelson ready yet, but I don't see them play even a fraction of what some of you more informed posters do. I'd rather see more experience (and not Reasoners and Pandolfos) added. We have 12 forwards already. I'd love to see Clarkson, a goalie (I'd love Halak) and a top 4 defenseman.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:47 PM ET
Say what you will: winning teams have a player like Frans Nielsen on their roster. He is a faceoff guy, a penalty killer, a 40 point scorer, is a good defensive center, scores more often than not in the shootout.

Guys like him play the third line. Guys like him should not be asked to play the type of role he's been asked to play on this team. Guys like him should not be expected to score more than 20 goals.

He should be on the third line next season. Period.

- potvin05

I love Frans and agree with all of that, except the face-off guy part.

48%
45.2%
46.2%

Are his FO% for the last 3 seasons. He's pretty bad on the draw.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:49 PM ET
I love Frans and agree with all of that, except the face-off guy part.

48%
45.2%
46.2%

Are his FO% for the last 3 seasons. He's pretty bad on the draw.

- eichiefs9

I wouldn't have him take a faceoff in the defensive zone with 45 seconds left in a one-goal game, but playing the 3rd line, considering his other strengths, I can live with that.
XxNYIxX
New York Islanders
Location: Clayton, NC
Joined: 02.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 11:49 PM ET
Sorry X after the interview last year when he basically admitted he has trouble giving it his all at times it left a bad taste in my mouth.
- ses111



Your bad taste still doesn't lessen his talent, or importance to this team.

XxNYIxX
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:53 PM ET
I hate to burst everyone's bubbles, but how can you guys just hand this big of a role to Strome or Nelson this quickly? We're coming off a playoff season, we need to add some veterans to this team. I'm all for spending some money on David Clarkson. He is exactly what this team needs. Him, Martin and Cizikas...3 guys who can grind with anyone AND score?? Yes please.

I expect Nino to make this team. I think he is ready. At least, he should be given a realistic shot at making the top line. I don't see Strome or Nelson ready yet, but I don't see them play even a fraction of what some of you more informed posters do. I'd rather see more experience (and not Reasoners and Pandolfos) added. We have 12 forwards already. I'd love to see Clarkson, a goalie (I'd love Halak) and a top 4 defenseman.

- potvin05


I'm all for spending money and adding key vets but so far it looks like the Islanders will be using guys like Strome and Nino and Nelson. From all the reports the Isles will not be making a big splash.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:54 PM ET
I wouldn't have him take a faceoff in the defensive zone with 45 seconds left in a one-goal game, but playing the 3rd line, considering his other strengths, I can live with that.
- potvin05

Funny you say that because as I dig deeper through his advanced statistics...

Def. zone FO wins: 105
Def. zone FO losses: 88

Off. zone FO wins: 84
Off. zone FO losses: 99

and it's not overly relevant but he was a hair over 50% on neutral zone faceoffs.

So maybe you do want him taking a d-zone faceoff with 45 seconds left

edit: There actually wasn't a single Islander that had a sub-50% Def. zone FO%
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:54 PM ET
Your bad taste still doesn't lessen his talent, or importance to this team.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX

This.

Just because of something some immature kid said playing for a perennial loser after a another non-playoff year, I'm not holding it against him.

Maybe I'm naive, I think the Pittsburgh series opened these guys' eyes about how important it is to win, and what us fans can be like when they do win, and when they do hustle.

This guy broke his stick into pieces after that deflection. I know, anyone would be pissed to have something like that happen in that spot, but I think that series, that moment can be a watershed moment for him. For all of them.
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:55 PM ET
Your bad taste still doesn't lessen his talent, or importance to this team.

XxNYIxX

- XxNYIxX


Sorry but he was real important to Pitt in game 6. To me he is just not a winning player and never seems to make the big play to earn a win and is way too comfortable being a third line guy.
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:56 PM ET
I'm all for spending money and adding key vets but so far it looks like the Islanders will be using guys like Strome and Nino and Nelson. From all the reports the Isles will not be making a big splash.
- ses111

I want Clarkson.

I think Snow makes a run at him. He's not stupid. He knows he needs a player like him. He's watched Clarkson right up close and personal plenty of times. He is EXACTLY what this team needs. He will cost money, but he ultimately would be a gigantic contributor and not a detriment to the cap in the upcoming years.




Can you tell I want Clarkson?
potvin05
New York Islanders
Location: Snow's World (I just live in it), NY
Joined: 06.21.2008

Jun 4 @ 11:56 PM ET
Sorry but he was real important to Pitt in game 6. To me he is just not a winning player and never seems to make the big play to earn a win and is way too comfortable being a third line guy.
- ses111

C'mon, that's bullpoop. That was unfortunate. That poop happens in this sport all the time.
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