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JoeyG1951
Location: Campbell River, BC
Joined: 05.23.2010

Jun 4 @ 8:16 PM ET
He could, but he could also get hurt, and we're stuck with an over 35 deal.
- MJL


Anyone can get hurt and Streit has pretty much been injury free with the exception of the one year for shoulder surgery and that can happen to any nhler.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:17 PM ET
I would not touch Whitney with a 10' pole. He is a huge injury risk (just what we don't need another of) and was not good enough to crack a Oiler lineup. He would be a huge gamble whereas Streit would be a good pick. Bottom line is you usually get what you pay for.
- flyerdude17



I agree. Really have zero interest in Whitney. I want them to make a move for the long term if it is available.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:18 PM ET
Anyone can get hurt and Streit has pretty much been injury free with the exception of the one year for shoulder surgery and that can happen to any nhler.
- flyerdude17


Yes it can. But the 35+ rule changes things. And makes him different from any nhler. We already have one 35+ player hampering the Off Season. Don't need another.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:19 PM ET
I would not touch Whitney with a 10' pole. He is a huge injury risk (just what we don't need another of) and was not good enough to crack a Oiler lineup. He would be a huge gamble whereas Streit would be a good pick. Bottom line is you usually get what you pay for.
- flyerdude17


Whitney did struggle early, but he played much better down the stretch.

I'd rather pay a lower price and hope a guy can rebound than pay a high price. If Whitney or whomever they add falters, it could open a door for Gustafsson
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:19 PM ET
The market is weak and despite his age, Streit is probably the best available guy. If he's going to get a $6mm cap hit as an over 35, I'd rather try to get Whitney on a two year deal for less cash.
- Jsaquella


I'd rather go the short term this is the best way to go.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:20 PM ET
Whitney did struggle early, but he played much better down the stretch.

I'd rather pay a lower price and hope a guy can rebound than pay a high price. If Whitney or whomever they add falters, it could open a door for Gustafsson

- Jsaquella


I'd rather just open the door now for Gustafsson.


Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:20 PM ET
I agree. Really have zero interest in Whitney. I want them to make a move for the long term if it is available.
- MJL


That would be my first choice as well. Edler, Yandle, Johnson or somebody of that age and ability level would be ideal.

But they will need fall back options, as well.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:21 PM ET
I'd rather just open the door now for Gustafsson.
- MJL


Outside of landing an Edler/Johnson/Yandle type, he'd already be playing a big role for me.

EDIT: Honestly, Gustafsson could well save Holmgren from an overaggressive move this summer. If it boiled down to Streit at $6mm for 4 years or Gustafsson assuming a bigger role, to me, it's time for the Gus Bus
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:27 PM ET
That would be my first choice as well. Edler, Yandle, Johnson or somebody of that age and ability level would be ideal.

But they will need fall back options, as well.

- Jsaquella


Would you kick the tires on seeing what the price tag would be for Rundblad?
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:28 PM ET
Outside of landing an Edler/Johnson/Yandle type, he'd already be playing a big role for me.

EDIT: Honestly, Gustafsson could well save Holmgren from an overaggressive move this summer. If it boiled down to Streit at $6mm for 4 years or Gustafsson assuming a bigger role, to me, it's time for the Gus Bus

- Jsaquella


I think Gustafsson is penciled in for a top 6 spot. It's his to lose. However, I also think they need a top pairing high minute puck mover in addition to whatever Gustafsson can provide. They need to change the mix of this defense.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:33 PM ET
Would you kick the tires on seeing what the price tag would be for Rundblad?
- ob18


Yep, for sure.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:36 PM ET
I think Gustafsson is penciled in for a top 6 spot. It's his to lose. However, I also think they need a top pairing high minute puck mover in addition to whatever Gustafsson can provide. They need to change the mix of this defense.
- MJL


I agree that they could use one, but if the cost is too high, they may have to make other adjustments.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:37 PM ET
Would you kick the tires on seeing what the price tag would be for Rundblad?
- ob18


I would not give up a major asset for Rundblad personally.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:37 PM ET


New Stars jerseys...I dig them. Like the nice, simplistic logo, too
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
I agree that they could use one, but if the cost is too high, they may have to make other adjustments.
- Jsaquella


They may have to. But realistically, they may really need to add two defenseman to this mix. If they hope to become a top team. Unless Gustafsson can become more then a 3rd pair player.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:38 PM ET
I would not give up a major asset for Rundblad personally.
- MJL


And you shouldn't but you make a call to ask what a price it would take
hereticpride
New Jersey Devils
Location: HEY. Does this pole still work?, NJ
Joined: 01.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 8:41 PM ET


New Stars jerseys...I dig them. Like the nice, simplistic logo, too

- Jsaquella

stayinthefnnet
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 01.12.2012

Jun 4 @ 8:41 PM ET
So Brad Marchand has been suspended. But it isn't like Danny Briere is angel boy out there. He's known for being sneaky dirty, particularly with the stick. And he'd carve your heart out for a goal. Yes he's classy with media and fans and a team leadership guy. But what about Marchand other than the Salo hit has everyone all annoyed at him? If facial appearance counted here no one would be all swoony in memory about Brind'amour. It isn't that he plays a 2-way game at his size, something Danny doesn't do.

Are we perhaps confusing him with the former goony head hunter weenie with the similar last name (who somehow is just hovering on the edge of my brain--Todd Marchant???).

- bodiva88

dont get me wrong. im not saying briere was a total vagina. he was never one to be physically imposing due to his size, but he wouldnt totally back away from things. however, marchant... just ugh. not gonna lie, the face thing probably has more to do with it than i care to admit. but other than that, yeah it is the sneakiness factor to his dirtiness. i know there are other dirty players out there, say raffi torres for example. call it moronic or whatnot, but hed think nothing of just throwing a total elbow with the spotlight right on him. marchant's are just constant, sly little dirtiness.

dont get me wrong, i totally understand my hatred for him means hes doing his job. but god id love to break his nose. i dont think id have the testicular fortitude to even dream of doing the same to lucic
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:42 PM ET
They may have to. But realistically, they may really need to add two defenseman to this mix. If they hope to become a top team. Unless Gustafsson can become more then a 3rd pair player.
- MJL


Very true, but at the same time, they have a young core. This isn't a group of 30 year olds whose window is closing fast.
Doc_Sarcasm
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Should of studied Geometry
Joined: 04.28.2013

Jun 4 @ 8:42 PM ET


New Stars jerseys...I dig them. Like the nice, simplistic logo, too

- Jsaquella



I think they look horrible. But then, I'm already on record for loving the old Canucks jersey, so whatever.
MJL
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Candyland, PA
Joined: 09.20.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:45 PM ET
Very true, but at the same time, they have a young core. This isn't a group of 30 year olds whose window is closing fast.
- Jsaquella


Right! I've always said, don't just make a move to make one. Make the right move. Having Timonen for another year, buys some time. But they're in a tough spot. But things change in a hurry in the NHL. And especially with the Flyers.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:46 PM ET
I think they look horrible. But then, I'm already on record for loving the old Canucks jersey, so whatever.
- Doc_Sarcasm


Which ones?



This, which I like.

Or This, hideous, trainwreck of a disaster

Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
Right! I've always said, don't just make a move to make one. Make the right move. Having Timonen for another year, buys some time. But they're in a tough spot. But things change in a hurry in the NHL. And especially with the Flyers.
- MJL


It's my fervent hope that that last part changes.
JoeRussomanno
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: me bitter? F-no i think it's hilarious
Joined: 12.14.2011

Jun 4 @ 8:47 PM ET
I have to admit my hatred of Boston has fizzled watching them spank the penguins like an unwanted stepchild . If the flyers want a system to follow, which I suggest they re-evaluate the one they have, Boston and Detroit are two teams I suggest they look at.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:48 PM ET
I have to admit my hatred of Boston has fizzled watching them spank the penguins like an unwanted stepchild . If the flyers want a system to follow, which I suggest they re-evaluate the one they have, Boston and Detroit are two teams I suggest they look at.
- JoeRussomanno


If you gotta emulate somebody, they are the two best choices.
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