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Seattle Kraken
Location: Gotta' Catch Em All!
Joined: 03.25.2013

Jun 3 @ 7:51 PM ET
I think that's a given no matter what
- Zezel


Used to cost an arm and a leg. Now its both arms and both legs.

Except when they have a promotional night. Buy one get one half off. Then you have to pick if you wanna' keep your arms or your legs. Tough call.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 3 @ 7:58 PM ET
Why does anyone care about MLSE money?



As a hockey fan you'd rather a corporation that owns your team save money over getting a player who could potentially entertain you for years?


I find it somewhat insane that people are so protective about money that isn't theirs.

- robin_steele264

It's like people that are outraged that the Oilers, who have all of 12+ million in cap space, overpay Horcoff by 3 million. Are you Darryl Katz? Then why should you care??
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 3 @ 8:01 PM ET
It's like people that are outraged that the Oilers, who have all of 12+ million in cap space, overpay Horcoff by 3 million. Are you Darryl Katz? Then why should you care??
- Morris




I couldn't care less what how much money a multi billionaire has to pay an athlete cause he wanted to buy a sports team as one of his toys.



jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jun 3 @ 8:35 PM ET
Elaborate on the etc
- robin_steele264



Just like the Oilers weren't giving up Gretzky
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 3 @ 8:35 PM ET




How bout them Bruins



Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 3 @ 8:38 PM ET
How bout them Bruins
- robin_steele264

Chicago has done well to not abandon their gameplan in the face of a physically rough team.

Pittsburgh is concentrating on trying to match Boston's physicality instead of trying to put pucks in the net.

Take note of these divergent paths, anyone who ever wants to see Edmonton succeed.
Rysko81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 8:39 PM ET
oh yeah.. i mean the piece that comes along with DP is def the debatable item there.

but the concept is sound.

- Dozzer

I'd send Frattin their way in hopes they'd take one of Komisarek or Liles as well. As hefty a price as that'd be considering we're paying 22-24 million of salary for them. Strome is a stud that make a great 1, 2 punch with Kadri for years to come. Move up in the draft with our 1st+Percy and then draft Horvat, and the future up the middle is all of the sudden stacked.
GardinerExpress
Location:
Joined: 08.21.2012

Jun 3 @ 8:44 PM ET
Thornton would look pretty good playing next to 50-goal scorer Phil Kessel.

Just sayin'...

- Atomic Wedgie


"Thornton would be a good fit in Toronto, where he could fill the role up the middle vacated by the potential departure of Tyler Bozak, provide the playmaking ability to make Phil Kessel a 50 goal scorer and tutor younger centers Nazem Kadri and Joe Colborne."

No..he said thornton would make Kessel a 50 goal scorer. He didnt say Kessel IS a 50 goal scorer.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jun 3 @ 8:46 PM ET
Only an obviously crappy team like the Leafs would lose to the Bruins.....oh, wait.
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 3 @ 8:48 PM ET




Fleury is brutal




Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 8:48 PM ET
Only an obviously crappy team like the Leafs would lose to the Bruins.....oh, wait.
- The Shrike


If it makes anyone feel better, we played the eventual Eastern Conference champions better than anyone else.

Rang
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 08.21.2006

Jun 3 @ 8:52 PM ET
If it makes anyone feel better, we played the eventual Eastern Conference champions better than anyone else.


- Leeman4Gilmour


No, it doesn't make me feel better at all.

It makes me even more pissed they choked it away.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 8:56 PM ET
No, it doesn't make me feel better at all.

It makes me even more pissed they choked it away.

- Rang


90 seconds and we could have been in Boston's shoes...

But, like Pittsburgh and New York, we just have no answer for that Krejci-Horton-Lucic line.

I've come to the conclusion that anybody who would take Clarkson over Horton is crazy.

eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

Jun 3 @ 8:57 PM ET
Isles aren't giving anyone Strome.
- robin_steele264

What he said.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 3 @ 9:05 PM ET
90 seconds and we could have been in Boston's shoes...

But, like Pittsburgh and New York, we just have no answer for that Krejci-Horton-Lucic line.

I've come to the conclusion that anybody who would take Clarkson over Horton is crazy.

- Leeman4Gilmour


I'm thinking that Horton only gets as much room as he does because of the left winger on the line. Ditto for Krejci. Lucic is the unique factor on the line.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 9:07 PM ET
I'm thinking that Horton only gets as much room as he does because of the left winger on the line. Ditto for Krejci. Lucic is the unique factor on the line.
- BorjeFan4Ever


The thing that scares me about Clarkson is that he's essentially a one year wonder.

Horton has a much greater skill-set. He is more fragile, but he takes his game up to another level come playoffs.
BorjeFan4Ever
Season Ticket Holder
Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 3 @ 9:10 PM ET
The thing that scares me about Clarkson is that he's essentially a one year wonder.

Horton has a much greater skill-set. He is more fragile, but he takes his game up to another level come playoffs.

- Leeman4Gilmour


I get what you are saying... but the injury history and Horton not playing with Lucic changes the equation for me. The role he would be asked (I'm guessing in Toronto) would be one he couldn't handle (my opinion).. .and bluntly stated I think he'll be more expensive than Clarkson - because of the playoff glitter.
WafflesAtACC
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: L'eggo my eggo!
Joined: 12.22.2010

Jun 3 @ 9:11 PM ET
Only an obviously crappy team like the Leafs would lose to the Bruins.....oh, wait.
- The Shrike

Had the Leafs held on and won in Game 7, I wonder how far they would've made it.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 9:12 PM ET
I get what you are saying... but the injury history and Horton not playing with Lucic changes the equation for me. The role he would be asked (I'm guessing in Toronto) would be one he couldn't handle (my opinion).. .and bluntly stated I think he'll be more expensive than Clarkson - because of the playoff glitter.
- BorjeFan4Ever


The thing I do love about Clarkson is that he apparently would love to play here.

We need more of those types - guys who would give anything to wear the Maple Leaf.
Rysko81
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 12.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 9:13 PM ET
Had the Leafs held on and won in Game 7, I wonder how far they would've made it.
- WafflesAtACC

We'll never know. What we do know, is that we played the Bruins better than anybody thus far. We dominated about 60% of that series, but they were far more opportunistic. They know how to finish and stay composed.
The Shrike
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Toronto
Joined: 11.17.2007

Jun 3 @ 9:14 PM ET
....I've come to the conclusion that anybody who would take Clarkson over Horton is crazy.
- Leeman4Gilmour


I'd be happy with either of them, they'd give us a solid, scoring, 2nd line right winger, with some jam, and push Kulemin to the 3rd (shutdown) line, where his defensive abilities could be fully utilized.
Morris
Edmonton Oilers
Location: Hall looks disengaged, NS
Joined: 07.18.2007

Jun 3 @ 9:15 PM ET
Fleury is brutal
- robin_steele264

I have four stipulations about mental lapse goals.

1) Don't let the opposition score in the 1st 2 shifts of the period
2) Don't let the opposition score in the last 2 shifts of the period
3) Don't let the opposition score in the 2 shifts following a goal you've scored
4) Don't let the opposition score again in the 2 shifts following a goal they've scored.

Really it sounds oddly specific and almost trivial, but teams that could do this to 100% success would see their win % improve dramatically. You see a goal in one of these situations just about every game.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 9:15 PM ET
Had the Leafs held on and won in Game 7, I wonder how far they would've made it.
- WafflesAtACC


They would have gotten past the Rangers with a little more trouble.

They probably would have been eliminated by Pittsburgh, but they would have stacked up against them well.

Pittsburgh has no defense or goaltending. They have a ton of firepower up front, but that rarely takes you all the way. They are also soft as a baby's ass. Cooke does nothing but fire up the opponent.

What a meat head.

EDIT: Crosby is a mess. WTF is going on?
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 9:17 PM ET
We'll never know. What we do know, is that we played the Bruins better than anybody thus far. We dominated about 60% of that series, but they were far more opportunistic. They know how to finish and stay composed.
- Rysko81


It was just that one line.

Jagr was a non factor. Chara was good, but didn't shut down our top line like he was expected.

If we had Horton, we win in 6.
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 3 @ 9:19 PM ET
I have four stipulations about mental lapse goals.

1) Don't let the opposition score in the 1st 2 shifts of the period
2) Don't let the opposition score in the last 2 shifts of the period
3) Don't let the opposition score in the 2 shifts following a goal you've scored
4) Don't let the opposition score again in the 2 shifts following a goal they've scored.

Really it sounds oddly specific and almost trivial, but teams that could do this to 100% success would see their win % improve dramatically. You see a goal in one of these situations just about every game.

- Morris


It would be a huge task, but I wonder about the win% of teams that score within the last 60 seconds of a period.

You'd have to filter out empty netters and OT goals.
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