agreed
- Aetherial

Agreed...nice butt

no.. one flaw to your reasoning

even WITH playoff revenue the islanders dont even break even

the leafs are well into the black long before playoff time
- Dozzer

Leafs spend X. Leafs have a chance of recouping it with Strome.

Islanders keep DiPi and Strome, so they spend X. They have a chance of recouping it because they kept Strome.

What I am saying is that, if you are going to argue that the Leafs taking Strome pays for the DiPietro buyout, then the Islanders keeping Strome and buyong out DiPi works exactly the same why.

Whether or not the Islanders are profitable overall, even with playoff dates, is not related.

Agreed...nice butt
- AdamFrench

I still need to post up a vote for the best assvatar.

komi might not be appealing but he would certainly be appealling to wang

wang would see 3.5million in cost to cover 4.5million in cap allotment

wang dont give a (frank) about talent.
- Dozzer

$1 million in gap between cap hit and actual payout doesn't help the team when Komi is playing in Bridgeport.

If the Isles wanted Komi, they would have just taken him off waivers.

C'mon, fellas - quit acting like Canucks fans.

I still need to post up a vote for the best assvatar.
- Aetherial

Get bingolady on it, he's the king of Poles polls

$1 million in gap between cap hit and actual payout doesn't help the team when Komi is playing in Bridgeport.

If the Isles wanted Komi, they would have just taken him off waivers.

C'mon, fellas - quit acting like Canucks fans.
- Atomic Wedgie

Strong Reality Wedgie, always remember the strong reality.

and Komi is good in the room.

Get bingolady on it, he's the king of Poles polls
- AdamFrench

I need a Sensei who has mastered the backhand pokecheck.

Leafs spend X. Leafs have a chance of recouping it with Strome.

Islanders keep DiPi and Strome, so they spend X. They have a chance of recouping it because they kept Strome.

What I am saying is that, if you are going to argue that the Leafs taking Strome pays for the DiPietro buyout, then the Islanders keeping Strome and buyong out DiPi works exactly the same why.
Whether or not the Islanders are profitable overall, even with playoff dates, is not related.
- Aetherial

Not sure which side you are arguing on, but if your question is why wouldn't the Isles just keep Strome and make playoff $ with him, the answer is that MLSEL makes a heck of a lot more money with playoff dates than the Islanders do.

$1 million in gap between cap hit and actual payout doesn't help the team when Komi is playing in Bridgeport.

If the Isles wanted Komi, they would have just taken him off waivers.

C'mon, fellas - quit acting like Canucks fans.
- Atomic Wedgie

Hahahahaha, yeah, these convos reek of "Edler for Mackinnon +" and "Luongo for Rielly, Gardiner, and a first".

Strong Reality Wedgie, always remember the strong reality.

and Komi is good in the room.
- Aetherial

The Isles could benefit from a veteran presence who could teach the young kids.

Not sure which side you are arguing on, but if your question is why wouldn't the Isles just keep Strome and make playoff $ with him, the answer is that MLSEL makes a heck of a lot more money with playoff dates than the Islanders do.
- Atomic Wedgie

I’m not so sure that’s true, when you start to think that if they actually had a playoff team, they may even start to sell out in the regular season. The Leafs, it’s just playoff revenue. For the Isles, it could actually boost their revenue for the 41 regular season games too (which it wouldn’t for the Leafs).

Leafs spend X. Leafs have a chance of recouping it with Strome.

Islanders keep DiPi and Strome, so they spend X. They have a chance of recouping it because they kept Strome.

What I am saying is that, if you are going to argue that the Leafs taking Strome pays for the DiPietro buyout, then the Islanders keeping Strome and buyong out DiPi works exactly the same why.

Whether or not the Islanders are profitable overall, even with playoff dates, is not related.
- Aetherial

whoa.. slow down.. BIG BIG difference spending money out of profit over increasing losses.. HUGE difference

No.

No cap hit penalty.

Compliance buyout.
- Atomic Wedgie

Oh, is that just for next season? I've been going by CapGeek's buyout calculator:
http://www.capgeek.com/bu...3&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=15

I’m not so sure that’s true, when you start to think that if they actually had a playoff team, they may even start to sell out in the regular season. The Leafs, it’s just playoff revenue. For the Isles, it could actually boost their revenue for the 41 regular season games too (which it wouldn’t for the Leafs).
- Dirte

Hadn't thought of it that way.

Good point.

$1 million in gap between cap hit and actual payout doesn't help the team when Komi is playing in Bridgeport.

If the Isles wanted Komi, they would have just taken him off waivers.

C'mon, fellas - quit acting like Canucks fans.
- Atomic Wedgie

okay. komi is just an example

also, the isles had met their cap floor when he was sent down.. they are yet again beneath the cap

my point is the isles cannot afford to

A: buyout DP

or B: bring in another dependable goalie with DP on contract.

so if you are Snow.. how exactly do you solve this?

Oh, is that just for next season? I've been going by CapGeek's buyout calculator:
http://www.capgeek.com/bu...3&buyout_m=06&buyout_d=15
- gravyface

As per the new CBA, each team is given two "compliance buyouts."

Think of them as "get out of salary cap jail free" cards. Meaning you can buy the guy out, and he still gets 2/3rds of what remains on his contract (only 1/3 if he is 25 years old or younger), but it does not count against your cap.

The window is (according to Bob MacKenzie) 48 hours after the Stanley Cup is raised until just before UFA season opens.

There is a window this year and a window next year.

You can use them either this year or next year or both - but you only get two.

$1 million in gap between cap hit and actual payout doesn't help the team when Komi is playing in Bridgeport.

If the Isles wanted Komi, they would have just taken him off waivers.

C'mon, fellas - quit acting like Canucks fans.
- Atomic Wedgie

you would have to admit there is a difference in claiming Komi off waivers for no reason and taking him in a deal to move Dipietro. the only discussion would be the add on to take Dipietro off their hands

okay. komi is just an example

also, the isles had met their cap floor when he was sent down.. they are yet again beneath the cap

my point is the isles cannot afford to

A: buyout DP

or B: bring in another dependable goalie with DP on contract.

so if you are Snow.. how exactly do you solve this?
- Dozzer

Isles have the option of rolling over Thomas' contract into 2013-14. Getting to cap floor won't be a problem.

You know what would be funny/embarrssing? If the Isles bought out DiPietro, but elected to do it with regular buyout instead of compliance buyout, so that his buyout would count against the cap.

The Isles could benefit from a veteran presence who could teach the young kids.
- Atomic Wedgie

In a "Mike Peca - Robbie Earl" sort of way?

Isles have the option of rolling over Thomas' contract into 2013-14. Getting to cap floor won't be a problem.

You know what would be funny/embarrssing? If the Isles bought out DiPietro, but elected to do it with regular buyout instead of compliance buyout, so that his buyout would count against the cap.
- Atomic Wedgie

not according to BM

‏@TSNBobMcKenzie
BTW, NYI are not "tolling" contract of G Tim Thomas. That means his NHL contract expires this summer and is UFA with no obligation to anyone

Isles have the option of rolling over Thomas' contract into 2013-14. Getting to cap floor won't be a problem.

You know what would be funny/embarrssing? If the Isles bought out DiPietro, but elected to do it with regular buyout instead of compliance buyout, so that his buyout would count against the cap.
- Atomic Wedgie

1: the isles have already stated they WILL NOT be rolling over Thomas' contract.. so that nixes that

2: once again.. the isles made the playoffs this year.. therefore Wang got some extra revenue.. he liked that.. he realizes he has a young core and wants to improve it WITHOUT spending more. In order to this he needs to get out from under DPs contract. period the end.

you need to view what the isles want (playoff revenue) coupled with what they are willing to spend.. you guys are not addressing both needs at once

you would have to admit there is a difference in claiming Komi off waivers for no reason and taking him in a deal to move Dipietro. the only discussion would be the add on to take Dipietro off their hands
- senstroll

But it gets back to my original point: if you are attempting to get Strome for cash, why muddy the waters with Komi? Why ask for their 1st round pick?

Both of those things make the deal less appealing.

Strome and DiPietro for our 2nd round pick.

The math is really quite staggering.

Say the average ticket price for a first round game is $100 (which is waaaaaay too low).

That's about $1,900,000 right there.

Then add beer sales.

MLSEL would be more than happy to throw money at a young superstar.
- Atomic Wedgie

wayyyy low... i paid 130 for the worst seats in the house... literally against hte back wall face value

1: the isles have already stated they WILL NOT be rolling over Thomas' contract.. so that nixes that

2: once again.. the isles made the playoffs this year.. therefore Wang got some extra revenue.. he liked that.. he realizes he has a young core and wants to improve it WITHOUT spending more. In order to this he needs to get out from under DPs contract. period the end.

you need to view what the isles want (playoff revenue) coupled with what they are willing to spend.. you guys are not addressing both needs at once
- Dozzer

I'm really wondering if the Wanger's heart is still in this.

For the longest time, the Islanders were his vehicle for a multi-billion dollar development deal.

That's dead. He's signed a long-term lease to be a tenant in Brooklyn. He professes to love hockey, but there are several signs that point to otherwise.

Why does he want to still be owner?

But it gets back to my original point: if you are attempting to get Strome for cash, why muddy the waters with Komi? Why ask for their 1st round pick?

Both of those things make the deal less appealing.

Strome and DiPietro for our 2nd round pick.
- Atomic Wedgie

maybe the league doesnt want things to look like players are being bought like that. At least make it look like a hockey trade of some sort.

Also because I wouldnt expect NYI to dangle Strome as bait to take RD. If would take a lot more than a 2nd