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jambodelta99
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Black Hawks baby!
Joined: 01.04.2010

Jun 4 @ 7:16 AM ET
is Blysma on hot seat?

after all the players the Penguins bought this year to make a Cup run, this is a disgrace
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 4 @ 7:27 AM ET
is Blysma on hot seat?

after all the players the Penguins bought this year to make a Cup run, this is a disgrace

- jambodelta99

He definitely is. He's a great person but in the end it falls on his game approach. He needs to react better to game changes. Hopefully we will do that and get next game. Too many lapses and mistakes going on right now.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 7:28 AM ET
Holy poop.. what's up with your team fellas? You took the Sens apart and looked unbeatable, and now Boston is handing you your asses? That little wiener Marchand is schooling your guys. WTF?
- sgoodwin


I don't think its hard to tell if you are watching the games. No urgency, no compete level, no heart, no hockey sense and a terribly prepared team. When those things combine, you get what we witnessed.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 7:29 AM ET
is Blysma on hot seat?

after all the players the Penguins bought this year to make a Cup run, this is a disgrace

- jambodelta99


He should be and if Shero keeps him, he made his first major mistake along with bringing in Iginla. Bylsma shows no emotion and doesn't make any in game adjustments. Its been pretty evident versus the Islanders and this series. He is a terrible coach.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 7:31 AM ET
the Pens seem to be pretty dominant every year. 99, 101, 106, 108, 72 points with Bylsma. They have 1 Cup, that crazy 7 game loss to Montreal in the semis, a game 7 1st round loss to Tampa, the circus against Philly in the 1st round, and here we are in the Conference Finals.

I don't think it's the coach. The D could definitely be better. Crosby, while he's the best player.. has his weakness of officiating/opposing teams getting under his skin. The same for Malkin. And Fleury has ALWAYS been inconsistent. . my best friend is a Pens fan so I hear it all the time.. and I had him on my fantasy team in 2010 and 2011. If Crosby and Malkin can LEAD their team, even through dirty teams and calls they don't agree with, and Fleury can be on his A game.. Pitt is as good a team as any. Look at this roster, the core of this team is so so good.. and they have a handful of solid prospects coming up.

- MartysBetter88


It's the coach. He fails at preparing teams and fails more at making in game adjustments. It's not hard to figure out.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 7:32 AM ET
If we lose this series I'm sure Shero will think about revamping our lineup. We'll go after a couple quick forwards for our bottom two lineup. As for trade talks, I'd consider Letang/Fleury for Shattenkirk/Oshie/Elliott (although I'd try to land Halak)
- Orpik44



St. Louis doesn't need Fleury. They have a bunch of Fleury's. They don't need Letang either.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 7:34 AM ET
I'm sorry about the loss, but some of you guys need to take a breath.
This is game 2, not 4. Boston was down 0-2 against Toronto and here they are.
Wanting Bylsma to be canned? This is the guy Pens fans rave about all the time, year after year, Jack Adams and all that. He's a good coach.
This is the 1st series I've seen Pitt look as flat, disorganized, and.. just bad, as they have. But a lot of that is because of Boston, and a handful of young and immature players with letters on the front of their jerseys in Pitt. . I'm surprised Iginla hasn't spoken up yet. Game 1 was a circus. Boston got the best player in the world off his game, just like Philly did last year. That can't happen to your captain and your A in Malkin. Game 2 wasn't as bad, thankfully, but something is just off.
Yes, the blame falls on the coach. But I wouldn't be calling for him to get fired.. especially after singing his praises not too long ago. Players have to wake themselves up just as much as the coach does.
Looking forward to game 3. I still think this is going 7. I had Pitt winning in 7, but that was with the mindset that they'd be playing their game.. their aggressive forecheck and the all-star cast of players doing what they do best. If they don't figure out how to out-skill and out-skate the strong and solid Bruins, this series is over.

- MartysBetter88


You haven't read anything on this site about raves for DB. He is a terrible coach who should be held accountable. Not too many here rave about him. He isn't good.
Orpik44
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Wooooo!Bring it on Flyer wussies!
Joined: 06.04.2011

Jun 4 @ 7:35 AM ET
I don't think its hard to tell if you are watching the games. No urgency, no compete level, no heart, no hockey sense and a terribly prepared team. When those things combine, you get what we witnessed.
- Oneonta Penguin

On top of that we are not playing as a team. It's almost like something happened in the locker room. it's like we are watching a different team. No union.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 4 @ 7:52 AM ET
Edmonton DOESN'T have the goods for Letang. They don't have what we need. Keep in mind, one of those forwards you would be craving to get would be making quite a bit very soon.

Anaheim would be interesting though; same with Dallas (no, not Joe Morrow coming back), Chicago, Minnesota, for starters

- Oneonta Penguin

I was thinking their first rounder.
Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 4 @ 7:54 AM ET
I'm sorry about the loss, but some of you guys need to take a breath.
This is game 2, not 4. Boston was down 0-2 against Toronto and here they are.
Wanting Bylsma to be canned? This is the guy Pens fans rave about all the time, year after year, Jack Adams and all that. He's a good coach.
This is the 1st series I've seen Pitt look as flat, disorganized, and.. just bad, as they have. But a lot of that is because of Boston, and a handful of young and immature players with letters on the front of their jerseys in Pitt. . I'm surprised Iginla hasn't spoken up yet. Game 1 was a circus. Boston got the best player in the world off his game, just like Philly did last year. That can't happen to your captain and your A in Malkin. Game 2 wasn't as bad, thankfully, but something is just off.
Yes, the blame falls on the coach. But I wouldn't be calling for him to get fired.. especially after singing his praises not too long ago. Players have to wake themselves up just as much as the coach does.
Looking forward to game 3. I still think this is going 7. I had Pitt winning in 7, but that was with the mindset that they'd be playing their game.. their aggressive forecheck and the all-star cast of players doing what they do best. If they don't figure out how to out-skill and out-skate the strong and solid Bruins, this series is over.

- MartysBetter88

You must not have watched the islanders series.
RynoBull
Buffalo Sabres
Location: BFLO
Joined: 02.13.2007

Jun 4 @ 7:58 AM ET
Edmonton DOESN'T have the goods for Letang. They don't have what we need. Keep in mind, one of those forwards you would be craving to get would be making quite a bit very soon.

Anaheim would be interesting though; same with Dallas (no, not Joe Morrow coming back), Chicago, Minnesota, for starters

- Oneonta Penguin



Miller + 1st rounder for Malkin
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:10 AM ET
I was thinking their first rounder.
- Genev21


Who, Edmonton's?

Stop ... they still don't have the package to acquire Letang. They need to add and I see nothing.

Anaheim - how about a first and Gibson?

Columbus could use him and that would be an intriguing destination. They have three first round picks.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:10 AM ET
Miller + 1st rounder for Malkin
- RynoBull


That is an easy no. Malkin is a top three talent in this league. Ryan Miller now is a middle of the road goalie. That would help our situation, but he isn't an elite goalie.
hscesq
Referee
Montreal Canadiens
Location: Our debt is easily solvable considering the assets owned by the province. QP, NY
Joined: 06.26.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:25 AM ET
What's up referee? Just wanted you to know I didn't appreciate the ban you awarded to me. That was a bad bad call. Now let's move on. What's your prediction for tonight? 4-2 Pens IMO
- Orpik44

Actually, it was the perfect call. The YW was a "you're welcome" for getting your account back up for you.

As for my prediction...
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:35 AM ET
is Blysma on hot seat?

after all the players the Penguins bought this year to make a Cup run, this is a disgrace

- jambodelta99


Likely he gets another chance, but I don't know... Most of it falls on the players, but as the saying goes, one guy is easier to fire than 18.

His system works, and a times the team dominates on all 200 feet of ice against very good teams. But when it doesn't work, or when players don't stick to it, then it's a tire fire.

Maybe the defensive coverage is too complicated, as many goals against are scored with guys who weren't picked up, but often looking back at those goals, there was a bad turnover, lazy defensive coverage, or just players watching the puck.

Not sure what the solution is...

Not sure what Todd Reirdon's culpability is either... If anything, he's gotta do more to help Letang.

My only real complaint against Bylsma is his personnel usage. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt because he knows that room and those guys better than any of us ever will, but it just seems so obvious at times that he's wrong.
rival22
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @Mance_22 - Albany, NY
Joined: 02.27.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:42 AM ET
And I have been ok with he has used Bennett, but how Bylsma has handled Despres and (even Bortuzzo) really worries be when it comes to Harrington, Maatta and Pouliot coming through the ranks.

You just can't jerk around all those guys.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 8:46 AM ET
Likely he gets another chance, but I don't know... Most of it falls on the players, but as the saying goes, one guy is easier to fire than 18.

His system works, and a times the team dominates on all 200 feet of ice against very good teams. But when it doesn't work, or when players don't stick to it, then it's a tire fire.

Maybe the defensive coverage is too complicated, as many goals against are scored with guys who weren't picked up, but often looking back at those goals, there was a bad turnover, lazy defensive coverage, or just players watching the puck.

Not sure what the solution is...

Not sure what Todd Reirdon's culpability is either... If anything, he's gotta do more to help Letang.

My only real complaint against Bylsma is his personnel usage. I try to give him the benefit of the doubt because he knows that room and those guys better than any of us ever will, but it just seems so obvious at times that he's wrong.

- rival22


If this season ends like we are seeing with the last four periods (I thought we played well the first two of game one), Shero has to sit down with Bylsma and ask the question - what are you going to change? Your system doesn't work defensively. What is your plan for Despres or Bennett? You have basically wasted them, especially Despres. If changes aren't in order for Bylsma, you cut bait. He is terrible at in game adjustments. I want him to go on a Torts rant at least once and show emotion.

Yes, this is on the players too. Each player has looked terrible. It's not like they are ready for Boston. They didn't prepare at all. Letang looks like garbage; same wiht Malkin, Sid, Iggy ... name it. I can't offer who is our best player in the first two games.
madmike71
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Pittsburgh, PA
Joined: 12.21.2006

Jun 4 @ 8:56 AM ET
If this season ends like we are seeing with the last four periods (I thought we played well the first two of game one), Shero has to sit down with Bylsma and ask the question - what are you going to change? Your system doesn't work defensively. What is your plan for Despres or Bennett? You have basically wasted them, especially Despres. If changes aren't in order for Bylsma, you cut bait. He is terrible at in game adjustments. I want him to go on a Torts rant at least once and show emotion.

Yes, this is on the players too. Each player has looked terrible. It's not like they are ready for Boston. They didn't prepare at all. Letang looks like garbage; same wiht Malkin, Sid, Iggy ... name it. I can't offer who is our best player in the first two games.

- Oneonta Penguin


The treatment of Despres is confounding. I really believe he must not like him personally. If Despres made one mistake he'd find himself out for a couple of games. Meanwhile we'd watch "more experienced" players continuously make horrible decisions with no repercussions. If Disco stuck by Despres throughout the season, he probably would be a much more confident player right now when they need a player with his ability the most. I'll say it again, could Despres play any worse than Nisky has through these two games (and the other series as well). Nisk doesn't even look like he's an NHL player at the moment.

I thought Bylsma would have been safe making it to the ECF, but if they go down in flames in this manner, he has to go.....right? I mean how can you have confidence that he's capable of getting them over the hump with a likely less talented team next year?
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 4 @ 9:06 AM ET
Roster management is Bylsma's issue, not the x's and o's.

Penguins arent dead if they utilize their depth. Specifically the depth that is able skate fast and provide puck skills.

Bennett and Despres are no brainer additions at this point.

The top 6 personnel is what it is, combine it however you want (87, 14, 9, 71, 12, 18)

I would give Morrow and Jokinen a seat for Game 3. They just don't have the foot speed. Sutter, Cooke, and Kennedy for the third line and Bennett, Adams, and Vitale for the 4th line. Bennett can float around to different lines if needed.

D pairings

44-7
47-58
3-4

Only Murray would have what I would consider poor puck skills in that grouping of d men. The Bruins are beat with speed and skill, not physicality. Bruins own the neutral zone because most teams can't skate with them, the Penguins actually have the personnel to do so, they just aren't icing that lineup.
nh4442
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @MyDaddysInTheAF, PA
Joined: 05.28.2010

Jun 4 @ 9:36 AM ET
nh keys to winning this series:

-PP NEEDS to score, going 0-4, 0-3, 0-5 when one is a 5v3 is not a good pp unit, something needs to change ie players

-Put iggy with sid.. it is so simple yet it doesn't happen. The lines would be more balanced.. iggy and geno = no real chemistry

-Stop dumping and chasing. it doesn't help on teams who play a 1-2-2 system when up. The opposing D will always get to puck first.

-help your goalie out. too many times I saw opposing players wide open on opposite side of the net or in front. play man on man and push them out of the way, and for god sakes.. lift their sticks!

- nh4442


Kinda of funny how all these things were not done and they got their asses beat... I hope shero goes in the offseason, y wouldnt u put iggy with sid instead of malkin and as much as I like letang and want him to continue as a pen. He is pissing me off amd im about to want to trade him at draft for a couple firsts or first and prospect...

So f'n embarrassed to be a pens fan..


Gunner I agree with ur tweet... bennett and despres in... but put bennett on 3rd line with sutter and jussi and morrow adams cooke on 4th
robin_steele264
Edmonton Oilers
Joined: 03.15.2009

Jun 4 @ 9:41 AM ET
Who, Edmonton's?

Stop ... they still don't have the package to acquire Letang. They need to add and I see nothing.

Anaheim - how about a first and Gibson?

Columbus could use him and that would be an intriguing destination. They have three first round picks.

- Oneonta Penguin




Haha you are cute


Genev21
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 06.29.2012

Jun 4 @ 9:56 AM ET
Who, Edmonton's?

Stop ... they still don't have the package to acquire Letang. They need to add and I see nothing.

Anaheim - how about a first and Gibson?

Columbus could use him and that would be an intriguing destination. They have three first round picks.

- Oneonta Penguin

I guess I'm more willing to go through a total rebuild. I would only keep around 6 or 7 guys on this roster.
Gunner Staal
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: @gunnerstaal @Hockey_Hurts hoc, NY
Joined: 04.19.2007

Jun 4 @ 10:08 AM ET
I guess I'm more willing to go through a total rebuild. I would only keep around 6 or 7 guys on this roster.
- Genev21


There is no such thing as a total rebuild if Crosby and Malkin are in the equation. Total rebuilds are when teams are looking for their Crosby and Malkin.
Oneonta Penguin
Pittsburgh Penguins
Joined: 07.02.2007

Jun 4 @ 10:10 AM ET
Haha you are cute
- robin_steele264


nothing cute about it ... you don't have the pieces I'd be looking for in a Letang deal. Failed prospects and low end picks which edmonton fans think they can offer for star players is a joke.
Killian
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Germantown, MD
Joined: 02.22.2013

Jun 4 @ 10:15 AM ET
14 87 9
18 71 12
10 16 24
27 48 19

44 7
58 4
2 3

ughh 92 (i really want to say 29 but can't )
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