BOWNESS SIGNS IN TAMPA..... 2 people are thrilled. One just found a dollar in his sofa and the other is Bowness.

(Maybe he can influence a Luongo trade)
- Beatle_john

You're late. I posted this last blog.


IMO Bowness was worse than AV.

I'd cry. Seriously though, Raymond is a goner, apparently he there's been no discussions between his agent and the team. Lappy is likely gone as well. I'd say there's a 5% chance that Burrows gets moved.
- Nucker101

Lappy is of no use unless we are really close to a title. he was brought in for grit, piss and vinegar but we don't need that now. He was a good character, likable, but I think he is no longer useful.

You're late. I posted this last blog.


IMO Bowness was worse than AV.
- Nucker101

(....damn)

Lappy is of no use unless we are really close to a title. he was brought in for grit, piss and vinegar but we don't need that now. He was a good character, likable, but I think he is no longer useful.
- Beatle_john

Disagree, I think he's an ideal 4LC. Can get under the other teams skin, can PK, decent on faceoffs, and was effective as a checker before he bulked up this year. But I think Gillis only brought him in because he knew that AV had coached him before so now he's gone, plus the team wants to shed their bad reputation around the league and he has a big one.

I agree though, he can really help a contending team that needs a 4LC.

I'd say it's 50/50 at best if Edler gets moved. I'd be shocked if Burrows got moved. Not saying that they shouldn't be traded, just that it's not as likely as some of you guys are hoping/expecting.
- Nucker101

If Canucks did not have 45 NTC on the roster I would say they would not be traded either , but we handed out NTC like candy on halloween . I think they move .

Disagree, I think he's an ideal 4LC. Can get under the other teams skin, can PK, decent on faceoffs, and was effective as a checker before he bulked up this year. But I think Gillis only brought him in because he knew that AV had coached him before so now he's gone, plus the team wants to shed their bad reputation around the league and he has a big one.

I agree though, he can really help a contending team that needs a 4LC.
- Nucker101

Although MANY other Habs fans will disagree.

I really wouldn't mind having Lapierre back in Mtl... we gave him up for nothing back in the day and he was always playing with intensity.

Has to remain cheap hiring to be interesting though.

I think you could make a deal with the Preds or Canes, maybe even Calgary.....however I don't think you could do Edler straight up, those teams are gonna try to rape and pillage you for that pick. Ballard, Booth and Raymond cannot be put in, no team will take them on a deal like this. Burrows and Edler is a tempting proposition. I'm sure it would at least get teams talking.

If I were Van I would definitely consider it, getting a big dumb russian to play on the left wing would be big for them

You're late. I posted this last blog.


IMO Bowness was worse than AV.
- Nucker101

I think Bowness on TB is a perfect fit. Salo Ohlund Burrows Edler and Luongo on the team why not get Bowness he is familiar will the players why not hire AV too

I think Bowness on TB is a perfect fit. Salo Ohlund Burrows Edler and Luongo on the team why not get Bowness he is familiar will the players why not hire AV too
- VANTEL

Ohlund is likely retiring, he's done in the NHL. And I'm pretty sure the only actual TB player on that list is Salo. I'd say that I have a higher chance of winning the lotto then seeing AV/Bowness/Burrows/Luongo/Edler all on TB next season.

Edler has a lot of value and is a great d-man on a decent contract...that said, there is no way that TBay trades the 3rd overall & a prospect for Edler.
Would Edler be a good fit in TBay? For sure he would.
Would Yzerman get fired on the spot for trading the 3rd overall pick+ for maybe a top15 dman in the league? Yes.

Realistically it would be Edler, Van's 1st+ for the 3rd.
While I know Edler has more value than Ryan Miller or Vanek, Sabres fans were suggesting Miller and 8th to move into top3.

i'd say marc methot is better than 4-5 players on your list too..........think ottawa could trade him for a top 5 pick?
- sensarmy_11

Edler is a 50pt d man... method wouldn't get any points if it wasn't for EK.... Major difference.

They do count. But for all ELC bonuses, they raise that teams cap. But then, if they’re over the actual cap, the amount they’re over by gets shifted to the following season. In other words, if they pay out bonuses, that’s the amount that actually ends up counting against the cap. Only what is paid out. Same end result.
- Dirte

That was my point. Don't say that this kids cap hit is only going to be $1m, when it could be $3.7. Maybe it won't, but if you bank on it being the minimum you screw yourself the following year. Not a problem for a team $20 million below the cap, but the Canucks spend every penny available.

Off topic, but did anyone see the post game interview with Letang, before the Pitt Boston game. He talked about Bourdon and how he was his best friend, how he talks to him before every game he plays.
I found it interesting that he said the only reason he was drafted at 47Th spot (I think) was because of all the scouts coming to Val D'or to see Luc. Those scouts saw Kris and he ended up going to Pitts.
He said Luc was one of the best players he's played with. Man if you look at Letang now, pretty sad what Luc could have been.
RIP..

Except that, with the bonus cushion, the cap hit you actually realize on these guys is effectively right back down to $1M to $1.5M.
- Dirte

nope it is considered the max it could get too with bonuses. So 3mill

- Scooby_Doo

bump.

The oilers are coming. If you dont think that team is gona be a cup contender for the next ten years youve got problems. Its like 4 or5 20 year old kids are gona turn that brutal franchise around over night its not gona happen. Like all the other teams that started over, its gona take time. Playoffs this year and then look for a longer run in the years to follow.
- allen_gamble

The oilers are the Alex Daigles of the NHL

A roster player or Jensen will have to be moved for the Canucks to get him, he is going no later than eighth in the draft.

bump.
- Scooby_Doo

Bieksa's female doges???

To put things into perspective. To Land the Sedins in 1999.... We traded McCabe and a 2000 first round (11th overall). For the 4th overall.

Then traded the 4th overall and (2)-3rd rounders for the 1st overall.

Then traded the 1st overall for the 2nd overall and a 3rd rounder.

Crazy Dealing, but it just shows what it would take to move from 11th to 4th is quite a bit, nevermind moving from 20 something to 3...........

Vasilevsky is arguably the best goalie prospect in the world right now. Lehner, Markstrom, Vasilevsky probably. Off the top of my head anyway.
- Dirte

He's 19 which means he's years away from being an impactful player in the NHL. 3-5 years anyways. Also, I am a big proponent of having a veteran goalie mentor a young goalie for a year or two once they do make the NHL.

Luongo would still be a great fit for Tampa, or at least he would have been before they decided to gamble on Bishop and Lindback. I think the odds are VERY low that he ends up there (below 5%). Yzerman's going to regret it.

Bieksa's female doges???

- Thehabsfan93

He picked a bunch of guys playing each other in the first round.

Edler has a lot of value and is a great d-man on a decent contract...that said, there is no way that TBay trades the 3rd overall & a prospect for Edler.
Would Edler be a good fit in TBay? For sure he would.
Would Yzerman get fired on the spot for trading the 3rd overall pick+ for maybe a top15 dman in the league? Yes.

Realistically it would be Edler, Van's 1st+ for the 3rd.
While I know Edler has more value than Ryan Miller or Vanek, Sabres fans were suggesting Miller and 8th to move into top3.
- BoBBeR56

Miller's UFA at the end of next year. Edler's signed up for 6 years at only $5M. No way VAN trades Edler and their 1st for the 3rd overall. In order to make an Edler to TB trade viable it would have to be a package going each way.

To put things into perspective. To Land the Sedins in 1999.... We traded McCabe and a 2000 first round (11th overall). For the 4th overall.

Then traded the 4th overall and (2)-3rd rounders for the 1st overall.

Then traded the 1st overall for the 2nd overall and a 3rd rounder.

Crazy Dealing, but it just shows what it would take to move from 11th to 4th is quite a bit, nevermind moving from 20 something to 3...........
- SMP8719

That was for the 2nd AND 3rd overall picks, it would be much less complicated to move up for a single pick. And what did they give up in total? McCabe, the next year's first round pick and two 3rd round picks to get an extra first round and move up in the draft.

He picked a bunch of guys playing each other in the first round.
- Scooby_Doo

To be fair, he wasn't there, he got auto-picked the player with the highest ppg average left in the draft with no concern of which team they were on.

nope it is considered the max it could get too with bonuses. So 3mill
- SMP8719

Do you guys not really follow how it works? With a $64M cap, and a kid on an ELC with potential bonuses of $2.7M, they can spend to $66.7M. If the kid doesn’t earn any of those bonuses, they don’t count against them. It’s only if they earn those bonuses, the amount it pushes them over $64M counts against the following year. Essentially, if they don’t earn those bonuses, the team is never hit with those cap hits. Yes, technically, they include that in their cap number. And then they make the teams cap higher by that same amount. But if they don’t earn them, they never see those cap hits.