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golfingsince
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Joined: 11.30.2011

Jun 2 @ 9:45 PM ET
My guess is that the Board of Directors for MLSE would not agree.

Of all the players outside the NHL, is Strome even in the top 10? He's a good prospect, but 22 million is a lot of money, even for MLSE.

They aren't going to part with that kind of scratch unless it puts butts in seats or gets them more home playoff games. A kid who hasn't even set foot on NHL ice isn't worth 22 million unless he's the next coming of Crosby.

Again, we're talking MLB/NFL money here. And only the Sidney Crosbys of baseball and football got that kind of money - and they didn't even get that much.

- Leeman4Gilmour


Way to compare 1 year of salary ( BTW Justin Verlander makes more than that) to getting somebody for potentially a full 10-15 year career.

I think there are prospects/picks potentially available, but to think you'd be getting half a farm system is ridiculous.

Also, it could be argued that Strome will help you advance a round or even make the playoffs down the road and much of that buyout money would be recovered........in 1 round.
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jun 2 @ 9:53 PM ET
Better idea. Why don't you trade the first rounders for Seguin and Dougie Hamilton?
- NYI_since_72


This coming from the guy whose team has given up

Marchand, Hamjerlsoon, Leddy, Hackett, Greg Campbell, Spezza, Chara, Jokinen, and Luongo

for

Yashin, Kvasha and Parish
Leeman4Gilmour
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: "Obviously, Reimer must be the, AB
Joined: 02.02.2010

Jun 2 @ 9:55 PM ET
Way to compare 1 year of salary ( BTW Justin Verlander makes more than that) to getting somebody for potentially a full 10-15 year career.

I think there are prospects/picks potentially available, but to think you'd be getting half a farm system is ridiculous.

Also, it could be argued that Strome will help you advance a round or even make the playoffs down the road and much of that buyout money would be recovered........in 1 round.

- golfingsince


I'm talking about one time, rookie signing bonuses.

The thing about the MLB is that a lot of the high end prospects fall down the board because teams know they can't afford to sign them.

The Nationals made headlines by drafting Strasburg, then giving him his desired bonus of 7.5 million dollars.

The biggest NFL rookie signing bonus is Andrew Luck at 14.5.

In the case of taking on DiPi to buy him out, we're talking about MLSE cutting a cheque for 24 million (22 if they take back Komi) just for the rights to a player. That's before you even think about his future salary.

Nobody in his right mind would pay that money for anything less than the best prospect in hockey, at a minimum.

MLB franchises routinely pass on elite prospects because they can't afford 6-7 million dollar signing bonuses. And the going rate for Ryan Strome is 22 million? No way.
pbrsimps
Toronto Maple Leafs
Joined: 10.06.2011

Jun 2 @ 9:58 PM ET
Have you guys considered that maybe what you need to get Grabovski's line going is to flank him with two more small one-dimensional forwards who hold onto the puck for too long?

Hemsky + Omark for Franson

- Morris


Where do I sign?
NYI_since_72
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.25.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:03 PM ET
This coming from the guy whose team has given up

Marchand, Hamjerlsoon, Leddy, Hackett, Greg Campbell, Spezza, Chara, Jokinen, and Luongo

for

Yashin, Kvasha and Parish

- jribout

This from a prized franchise like the leafs who havent won a cup since 1967. There were two stupid trades by Milbdweeb but can't take credit for giving up Marchand, Hamjerlsoon, Leddy , Hackett and Campbell as they were never NYI players. Please check your leaf sources
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:05 PM ET
This from a prized franchise like the leafs who havent won a cup since 1967. There were two stupid trades by Mildweeb but can't take credit for giving up Marchand, Hamjerlsoon, Leddy , Hackett and Campbell as they were never NYI players. Please check your leaf sources
- NYI_since_72


Seguin and Hamilton were never Leafs players.
BorjeFan4Ever
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Location: not the BigSmoke anymore
Joined: 10.29.2007

Jun 2 @ 10:05 PM ET
My guess is that the Board of Directors for MLSE would not agree.

Of all the players outside the NHL, is Strome even in the top 10? He's a good prospect, but 22 million is a lot of money, even for MLSE.

They aren't going to part with that kind of scratch unless it puts butts in seats or gets them more home playoff games. A kid who hasn't even set foot on NHL ice isn't worth 22 million unless he's the next coming of Crosby.

Again, we're talking MLB/NFL money here. And only the Sidney Crosbys of baseball and football got that kind of money - and they didn't even get that much.

- Leeman4Gilmour


The package would no doubt have to be larger both directions for things to make financial sense.

By that I mean perhaps more going to the Islanders, perhaps a Liles or Grabovski in addition to Komisarek.. that way the Isles spend but spend less and perhaps in Liles or Grabovski's case they get a player who could be useful to them - forgoing the buyout altogether. With them likely losing Streit to free-agency, Liles would fill that void to some degree.
jribout
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Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:08 PM ET
This from a prized franchise like the leafs who havent won a cup since 1967. There were two stupid trades by Milbdweeb but can't take credit for giving up Marchand, Hamjerlsoon, Leddy , Hackett and Campbell as they were never NYI players. Please check your leaf sources
- NYI_since_72


They were the draft picks the Mets, I mean Islanders traded for players that never made the NHL let alone finished top 10 in scoring in the NHL twice by the age of 25.

NYI_since_72
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.25.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:09 PM ET
Seguin and Hamilton were never Leafs players.
- mmold

They should have been
MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Jun 2 @ 10:10 PM ET
YAY ITS CRAZY TRADE PROPOSAL TIME!

To NYI

Kessel
Komisarek
Liles

To TOR

Tavares
Niederreiter
Streit
DiPietro



Edit: I guess Streit is a UFA, so Isles would have to sweeten the deal with some stud D man like carkner
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:12 PM ET
They should have been
- NYI_since_72


Merely pointing out that they were in the same situation for the Leafs as
Marchand, Hamjerlsoon, Leddy , Hackett and Campbell for the Isles.

Anyhow Rask is the worst trade made with Boston in my opinion.
NYI_since_72
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.25.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:13 PM ET
YAY ITS CRAZY TRADE PROPOSAL TIME!

To NYI

Kessel
Komisarek
Liles

To TOR

Tavares
Niederreiter
Streit
DiPietro
No thanks


- MetroidPrime

MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Jun 2 @ 10:13 PM ET
Merely pointing out that they were in the same situation for the Leafs as
Marchand, Hamjerlsoon, Leddy , Hackett and Campbell for the Isles.

Anyhow Rask is the worst trade made with Boston in my opinion.

- mmold


nah man rask sucks







mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:14 PM ET
YAY ITS CRAZY TRADE PROPOSAL TIME!

To NYI

Kessel
Komisarek
Liles

To TOR

Tavares
Niederreiter
Streit
DiPietro



Edit: I guess Streit is a UFA, so Isles would have to sweeten the deal with some stud D man like carkner

- MetroidPrime


Yup Crazy alright.
NYI_since_72
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.25.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:14 PM ET
Merely pointing out that they were in the same situation for the Leafs as
Marchand, Hamjerlsoon, Leddy , Hackett and Campbell for the Isles.

Anyhow Rask is the worst trade made with Boston in my opinion.

- mmold

Who was he traded for?
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:14 PM ET
nah man rask sucks








- MetroidPrime



JFJ
MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Jun 2 @ 10:15 PM ET
Who was he traded for?
- NYI_since_72


Calder Trophy winner Andrew (frank)ING Raycroft
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:16 PM ET
Who was he traded for?
- NYI_since_72



Edit: Rask for Raycroft (Rask was a 21st pick)
MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Jun 2 @ 10:17 PM ET
Rask+21st overall for Raycroft
- mmold



im pretty sure rask WAS the 21st overall pick in 2005 so it was a straight swap
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:18 PM ET
im pretty sure rask WAS the 21st overall pick in 2005 so it was a straight swap
- MetroidPrime


Yeah i fixed it.
mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:19 PM ET
Calder Trophy winner Andrew (frank)ING Raycroft
- MetroidPrime


Can't believe he holds Leafs most wins record!
MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Jun 2 @ 10:20 PM ET
also this is a fun fact, both raycroft and justin pogge, who the leafs decided was going to be better than rask which is why they dealt him to boston, now ply their trade in italy. makes you wonder if it was the GM or the talent evaluators (scouts or whoever does that) who were to blame for that catastrophe
NYI_since_72
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.25.2013

Jun 2 @ 10:20 PM ET
They were the draft picks the Mets, I mean Islanders traded for players that never made the NHL let alone finished top 10 in scoring in the NHL twice by the age of 25.
- jribout

Mets are another problem for another day. At least they have some good young guys coming up soon in Darnaud and Sindergaard
MetroidPrime
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Tim Brent's Basement, Cambridge, ON
Joined: 01.20.2010

Jun 2 @ 10:21 PM ET
Mets are another problem for another day. At least they have some good young guys coming up soon in Darnaud and Sindergaard
- NYI_since_72


mmold
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Should the NHL belong south of, CA
Joined: 01.10.2011

Jun 2 @ 10:21 PM ET
Mets are another problem for another day. At least they have some good young guys coming up soon in Darnaud and Sindergaard
- NYI_since_72


Blue Jays not doing too well.
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