Would they swap for Ulstrom, Lee and Hickey?
- niteislander

are these serious?!?!!?

Guys I would be willing and not furious giving up to trade for a player of move up in the draft. I am sure you will all say these guys are worthless.. .but I will put them down anyay.

Lee- He is a Big kid and I may be very wrong on him ,but I don't think he has the speed or Quickness to be a top 6 guy.
Hickey .. He played great for us last year but he showed he is just too small and got man handled in the playoffs. Pittsburgh made a point to go after him physically. That and with all the guys hopefully coming up the ranks he is tradeable.
Rites to Streit, Aucoin, Joensuu, etc. ...Any UFA we are not signing move them for a late round pick... or package etc...
Ness- I just don't see ANOTHER small puck moving forward ever breaking into this line up... Plus we need BIG shut down guys at this point.
Finley and/or Carkner... if either are worth something to another team (They're not).. but wouldn't care if gone.

Before you abuse the sht out of me.. remember what Sather got for Gomez. It happens...

Ullstom- I would be pretty upset if they trade him... I love this kid. He is big, Fast and has skill.
- niteislander

i'd be willing to trade any of these guys as well but i don't think your getting any of value for these player mentioned

I think it's waaaay too early to draw the line like that on Lee. He's played something like two NHL games at this point. Let's give him time to work on things like conditioning and his skating stride and then see where it goes from there. I'd prefer he get a chance to elevate his value a bit before we just deal him away at the drop of a hat.

As for Hickey, while not large by any means, he's 6' tall and will eventually fill out to about 205-210lbs. This was his first season in the NHL full time and I think he did pretty damn well. He's an offensive dman who plays responsibly in his own zone and makes pretty good breakout passes. I'd suggest they resign him and allow him another year or two to prove his worth. If he has another strong season, he suddenly becomes a 1st round pick who appears to be maturing which will make his value far better than it was when we first acquired him.

I don't see there being anyway a team trades for the rights of any of those three you mention since it's assumed that there will be quite a few salary casualties this year on other teams and draft day trades are expected to be heavier than normal. I certainly can't imagine anyone trading for rights to negotiate with Keith Aucoin.

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- keaner17

I'd trade Lee before I'd trade Nelson or Nino. I'd move Hickey too if it was a final throw-in necessary to bring something back the Isles need. He was fine this past season, and sure, he'll only get better. But I didn't see anything completely irreplaceable in his play. As you guys know, I'm pretty high on Donovan after watching him a whole bunch this season, perhaps to the point of overestimating him...but I'd be a bit surprised if Donovan next season couldn't give the Isles everything Hickey did this year plus some more offensively. I think the rights to Streit might land a third rounder.

((UIF))

i'd be willing to trade any of these guys as well but i don't think your getting any of value for these player mentioned
- NYI78

If tallon made that trade he'd be on the unemployment line not long after.

Guys I would be willing and not furious giving up to trade for a player of move up in the draft. I am sure you will all say these guys are worthless.. .but I will put them down anyay.

Lee- He is a Big kid and I may be very wrong on him ,but I don't think he has the speed or Quickness to be a top 6 guy.
Hickey .. He played great for us last year but he showed he is just too small and got man handled in the playoffs. Pittsburgh made a point to go after him physically. That and with all the guys hopefully coming up the ranks he is tradeable.
Rites to Streit, Aucoin, Joensuu, etc. ...Any UFA we are not signing move them for a late round pick... or package etc...
Ness- I just don't see ANOTHER small puck moving forward ever breaking into this line up... Plus we need BIG shut down guys at this point.
Finley and/or Carkner... if either are worth something to another team (They're not).. but wouldn't care if gone.

Before you abuse the sht out of me.. remember what Sather got for Gomez. It happens...

Ullstom- I would be pretty upset if they trade him... I love this kid. He is big, Fast and has skill.
- niteislander

Gomez also had value as a player at one point in his career. Zero of the players mentioned there ever did. Streit does not count because you're trading his rights, which always carries next to no value.

I'd trade Lee before I'd trade Nelson or Nino. I'd move Hickey too if it was a final throw-in necessary to bring something back the Isles need. He was fine this past season, and sure, he'll only get better. But I didn't see anything completely irreplaceable in his play. As you guys know, I'm pretty high on Donovan after watching him a whole bunch this season, perhaps to the point of overestimating him...but I'd be a bit surprised if Donovan next season couldn't give the Isles everything Hickey did this year plus some more offensively. I think the rights to Streit might land a third rounder.((UIF))
- UIF

Wow...
Not sure I can agree with that. I think a late second to early third was all I was expecting for Streit at last years deadline, so a third for merely obtaining the right to negotiate with him seems a bit high to me.

Too me, Hickey had been given up on when we picked him off waivers and much like a certain God like presence we all know as PA, he can become a very valuable bargaining piece if he puts up another solid year of production.

As for Lee, of course I'd rather keep Nelson or Nino I'm simply saying it's a bit too soon to say "we've got to trade this guy because he didn't look that good in his first two NHL games."

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i'd be willing to trade any of these guys as well but i don't think your getting any of value for these player mentioned
- NYI78

Agreed. I just feel that these guys are going to be worth more to us in the mix for this season than any return they'll bring in the trade market. After anothe season of production for a guy like Hickey, he may suddenly bring back a far better return.

keaner17

Wow...
Not sure I can agree with that. I think a late second to early third was all I was expecting for Streit at last years deadline, so a third for merely obtaining the right to negotiate with him seems a bit high to me.

Too me, Hickey had been given up on when we picked him off waivers and much like a certain God like presence we all know as PA, he can become a very valuable bargaining piece if he puts up another solid year of production.

As for Lee, of course I'd rather keep Nelson or Nino I'm simply saying it's a bit too soon to say "we've got to trade this guy because he didn't look that good in his first two NHL games."

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- keaner17

Not saying I agree or disagree with the originally stated trade value of Streit's negotiating rights, but when PHX traded Bryzgalov's neg. rights to PHI, they got a 3rd rounder back.

Also, Streit's value wouldn't be that much. I guess I am saying it.

Not saying I agree or disagree with the originally stated trade value of Streit's negotiating rights, but when PHX traded Bryzgalov's neg. rights to PHI, they got a 3rd rounder back.
- eichiefs9

Correct, and Bryz (at the time) was considered one of the best goaltenders in the NHL and about 29 years old. Huge difference between that and an aging dman who is really only effective on the powerplay and is about to turn 36. Also, as I mentioned prior, there's expected to be a lot of movement this offseason, so I'm not so sure teams are going to be lining up to deal high(ish) picks simply to negotiate with mid level players when better options exist in free agency.

keaner17

Wow...
Not sure I can agree with that. I think a late second to early third was all I was expecting for Streit at last years deadline, so a third for merely obtaining the right to negotiate with him seems a bit high to me.

Too me, Hickey had been given up on when we picked him off waivers and much like a certain God like presence we all know as PA, he can become a very valuable bargaining piece if he puts up another solid year of production.

As for Lee, of course I'd rather keep Nelson or Nino I'm simply saying it's a bit too soon to say "we've got to trade this guy because he didn't look that good in his first two NHL games."

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- keaner17

The Isles and Sabres both gave up second rounders for the rights to Ehrhoff. I don't think a third is beyond the realm of possibilities for Streit's.

((UIF))

The Isles and Sabres both gave up second rounders for the rights to Ehrhoff. I don't think a third is beyond the realm of possibilities for Streit's.

((UIF))
- UIF

Actually, I beleive the Isles offered a fourth round pick for Ehrhoff

keaner17

*edit..in addtion, we then acquired Buffalo's fourth rounder for his rights...

The Isles and Sabres both gave up second rounders for the rights to Ehrhoff. I don't think a third is beyond the realm of possibilities for Streit's.

((UIF))
- UIF

the islanders GOT visnovsky for a 2nd round pick...trading for the RIGHTS to talk to streit (who is no where close to productive as LV) wont get more than a 4th at best!

Actually, I beleive the Isles offered a fourth round pick for Ehrhoff

keaner17

*edit..in addtion, we then acquired Buffalo's fourth rounder for his rights...
- keaner17

Weird...don't know why I remembered it being a second rounder! Obviously that changes my reasoning from a 3rd to a 5th for Streit's.

((UIF))

Weird...don't know why I remembered it being a second rounder! Obviously that changes my reasoning from a 3rd to a 5th for Streit's.
- UIF

Now I'm on board! That said, for all you NHL GM's who may be reading our in depth debates here and Hockeybuzz...the asking price for Streit's negotiating rights will be a high 1st rounder!

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*edit and for the record, ((UIF)) seems to need fewer mulligans than the rest of us here so we'll let this one slide

Wow...
Not sure I can agree with that. I think a late second to early third was all I was expecting for Streit at last years deadline, so a third for merely obtaining the right to negotiate with him seems a bit high to me.

Too me, Hickey had been given up on when we picked him off waivers and much like a certain God like presence we all know as PA, he can become a very valuable bargaining piece if he puts up another solid year of production.

As for Lee, of course I'd rather keep Nelson or Nino I'm simply saying it's a bit too soon to say "we've got to trade this guy because he didn't look that good in his first two NHL games."

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- keaner17

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Agreed. I just feel that these guys are going to be worth more to us in the mix for this season than any return they'll bring in the trade market. After anothe season of production for a guy like Hickey, he may suddenly bring back a far better return.

keaner17
- keaner17

Agreed. At very least it'll add depth in case of injuries. They don't have much if any value now least of all getting Florida's or the AV's pick.

So anyone else hoping we are seriously in on Antti Raanta?

Anyone know who he is? I'm the only loser? Sweet.

Finnish league playoff MVP goaltender.

So anyone else hoping we are seriously in on Antti Raanta?

Anyone know who he is? I'm the only loser? Sweet.

Finnish league playoff MVP goaltender.
- eichiefs9

I hear he's all but signed to the Hawks

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I hear he's all but signed to the Hawks

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- XxNYIxX

Yeah I read that before too. Also just read he officially just signed a 1 year deal there. Stupid place to sign if you want to start

Something to talk about. From the Leafs blog.



HNIC’s Elliotte Friedman reported on Saturday’s “Hotstove Tonight” that New York has communicated to other NHL clubs that they would be willing to give assets to someone if they were willing to take Dipietro’s contract in a trade.

Dipietro is under contract until 2020-21 at a $4.5 Million annual salary and if bought out this summer, it would cost Isles owner Charles Wang $24 Million over the next 16 seasons, but if New York were willing to give something of value to make the Dipietro problem go away, like ’11 top pick and Mississauga native Ryan Strome or 2012 first rounder Griffin Reinhart for example, would it not be worth the cost to a team with deep pockets like the Leafs to make that kind of move to bring in a potential building block that has not even reached the age of 20???

Yeah I read that before too. Also just read he officially just signed a 1 year deal there. Stupid place to sign if you want to start
- eichiefs9

They wont resign Emery & they have the potential to be a solid contender for the next 5 years.. I could think of ALOT worse places to sign.
They get him in some games next year as the back up & then take it from there.

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Something to talk about. From the Leafs blog.



HNIC’s Elliotte Friedman reported on Saturday’s “Hotstove Tonight” that New York has communicated to other NHL clubs that they would be willing to give assets to someone if they were willing to take Dipietro’s contract in a trade.

Dipietro is under contract until 2020-21 at a $4.5 Million annual salary and if bought out this summer, it would cost Isles owner Charles Wang $24 Million over the next 16 seasons, but if New York were willing to give something of value to make the Dipietro problem go away, like ’11 top pick and Mississauga native Ryan Strome or 2012 first rounder Griffin Reinhart for example, would it not be worth the cost to a team with deep pockets like the Leafs to make that kind of move to bring in a potential building block that has not even reached the age of 20???
- bixll

Fact, The Isles are trying to get rid of DP & his contract

Speculation/Dreaming that the 1st, Strome or Reinhart have been offered

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Fact, The Isles are trying to get rid of DP & his contract

Speculation/Dreaming that the 1st, Strome or Reinhart have been offered

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- XxNYIxX

This is not from me. But, Wang wants to unload that money, he is going to have to eat something.

Fact, The Isles are trying to get rid of DP & his contract

Speculation/Dreaming that the 1st, Strome or Reinhart have been offered

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- XxNYIxX

exactly...i believe the isles want to get rid of DP...any names/picks that are mentioned is pure speculation and wishful thinking...

speaking of speculation...would anyone do DP+ 2013 1st round pick?

This is not from me. But, Wang wants to unload that money, he is going to have to eat something.
- bixll

I agree, but arguably.. 1 of our top 4 prospects (For a rebuilding team) is suicide.

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