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climbdenali12
New York Rangers
Location: MSG sec 226 Row 17 Seats 23-24
Joined: 11.18.2008

Jun 3 @ 4:21 PM ET
Head not heart, head not heart here. If he struggles or proves incapable, could Sather let him go?
- airjan23


He'll leave for medical reasons.
Look at him.... if you told me he was sick I would believe it.
jambodelta99
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Black Hawks baby!
Joined: 01.04.2010

Jun 3 @ 4:50 PM ET
twitter is broken
tomburton99
New York Rangers
Location: NYR distrust, NJ
Joined: 07.13.2009

Jun 3 @ 4:51 PM ET
twitter is broken
- jambodelta99

I know, it's really pissing me off right now.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 3 @ 4:52 PM ET
twitter is broken
- jambodelta99

Abandon ship! Abandon ship! Close all shops in the mall! Cancel the 3 ring circus!
jambodelta99
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Black Hawks baby!
Joined: 01.04.2010

Jun 3 @ 4:54 PM ET
Abandon ship! Abandon ship! Close all shops in the mall! Cancel the 3 ring circus!
- B2B76


I'm the bearded lady, what are you one of the freaks!
jambodelta99
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Black Hawks baby!
Joined: 01.04.2010

Jun 3 @ 4:54 PM ET
I know, it's really pissing me off right now.
- tomburton99


i think it's back
Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 3 @ 4:55 PM ET
i think it's back
- jambodelta99


Now you don't have to resort to the 7 p.m. sports news to learn that the Rangers just hired Ted Nolan.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 3 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm the bearded lady, what are you one of the freaks!
- jambodelta99

I am going off memory with that last quote. Been awhile since I saw spaceballs.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 3 @ 4:56 PM ET
I'm the bearded lady, what are you one of the freaks!
- jambodelta99

I am going off memory with that last quote. Been awhile since I saw spaceballs.

Pete V
New York Rangers
Location: Troy, MI
Joined: 05.16.2007

Jun 3 @ 4:57 PM ET
I am going off memory with that last quote. Been awhile since I saw spaceballs.
- B2B76


So, the combination is 1 2 3 4 5 ...
jambodelta99
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Black Hawks baby!
Joined: 01.04.2010

Jun 3 @ 5:01 PM ET
Now you don't have to resort to the 7 p.m. sports news to learn that the Rangers just hired Ted Nolan.
- Pete V


TJ called me at work to let me know Torts was fired, one of the very few times I wasn't aware of big news first
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 3 @ 5:06 PM ET
TJ called me at work to let me know Torts was fired, one of the very few times I wasn't aware of big news first
- jambodelta99


They call me Darren mckenzie at work now
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 3 @ 5:15 PM ET
Put two old war horses with him that have been around the league, and know the mechanics of coaching -- maybe a couple of guys that have been head coaches, but don't have the ambition to do it again. He would really have to be supported by people that know what they are doing.
- Pete V


Marc Crawford? Wasn't messier a player under him?
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 3 @ 5:33 PM ET
HC mark messier

Assistants Colin Campbell, Jim schoenfeld
mrhattrick27
New York Rangers
Location: NJ
Joined: 02.01.2008

Jun 3 @ 5:34 PM ET
Somebody make the case for me as to why Mark Messier would be a better hire than Dallas Eakins.
- Pete V


I got one. Because Dallas Eakins is already the coach of the Vancouver Canucks....
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 3 @ 5:53 PM ET
So, the combination is 1 2 3 4 5 ...
- Pete V

that's THE KIND OF combination an idiot puts on his luggage.
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 3 @ 5:53 PM ET
I got one. Because Dallas Eakins is already the coach of the Vancouver Canucks....
- mrhattrick27

Source?
Vukota
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.29.2007

Jun 3 @ 5:56 PM ET
Hilarious

https://twitter.com/wheel...41662760939175937/photo/1
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 3 @ 5:56 PM ET
And then Kreider would be so scared all he would do is backcheck, and his stat line would be 82 6 10 16 points +3
- Pete V

So you are saying Kreider won't be healthy scratched?
B2B76
New York Rangers
Location: "I got mouths to feed", NY
Joined: 08.14.2008

Jun 3 @ 6:00 PM ET
Hilarious

https://twitter.com/wheel...41662760939175937/photo/1

- Vukota

Looks like Andre the Giant picking up a fly.
Chris Erwin
New York Rangers
Location: Barnegat, NJ
Joined: 02.28.2010

Jun 3 @ 6:08 PM ET
can't see Renney coming back as an assistant
- airjan23

Especially since it was reported Messier got him fired in Vancouver in favor of Keenan.
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 3 @ 6:14 PM ET
Somebody make the case for me as to why Mark Messier would be a better hire than Dallas Eakins.
- Pete V


Well ill try, but I will say I'd rather have Eakins over the recycled guys that we hear:

Messier has been through every single moment a hockey player will ever go through. And he's probably gone through it 50 times. Although messier has coached 0 games, one could argue that he's experienced more then any person in the history of the leauge. You can't tell me that won't help him in relating to players, teaching players, being there for players, etc. I swear it feels like people are referring to him as this bum who did nothing in his career. This is one of the greatest 2 way players in the history of sports, let alone hockey. His leadership and competitiveness are literally second to no one. The respect players would give him because of this is immeasurable. They will see a guy who was willing to do anything to win when he played and knowing that he's won 6 cups doing that, maybe just maybe that'll rub off on a Kreider ....a delzotto...a hagelin...whoever, and they will do those little things it takes. Messier knows what those little things are, does Eakins know? Does a few years as an AHL coach teach you everything you need to know to be a successful coach? Maybe. And I don't doubt that eakins could be a solid coach. But no can guarentee that he will, just like no one can guarentee messier will be terrible. It's all a crap shoot and I'm willing to bet messier will roll 7s

To dismiss messier being unable to do anything is foolish given is track record of past successes
Slimtj100
New York Rangers
Location: Panarins NYC apt
Joined: 03.04.2013

Jun 3 @ 6:15 PM ET
So you are saying Kreider won't be healthy scratched?
- TPC

Blueshirt44
New York Rangers
Location: Bronx, NY
Joined: 11.26.2006

Jun 3 @ 6:23 PM ET
Well ill try, but I will say I'd rather have Eakins over the recycled guys that we hear:

Messier has been through every single moment a hockey player will ever go through. And he's probably gone through it 50 times. Although messier has coached 0 games, one could argue that he's experienced more then any person in the history of the leauge. You can't tell me that won't help him in relating to players, teaching players, being there for players, etc. I swear it feels like people are referring to him as this bum who did nothing in his career. This is one of the greatest 2 way players in the history of sports, let alone hockey. His leadership and competitiveness are literally second to no one. The respect players would give him because of this is immeasurable. They will see a guy who was willing to do anything to win when he played and knowing that he's won 6 cups doing that, maybe just maybe that'll rub off on a Kreider ....a delzotto...a hagelin...whoever, and they will do those little things it takes. Messier knows what those little things are, does Eakins know? Does a few years as an AHL coach teach you everything you need to know to be a successful coach? Maybe. And I don't doubt that eakins could be a solid coach. But no can guarentee that he will, just like no one can guarentee messier will be terrible. It's all a crap shoot and I'm willing to bet messier will roll 7s

To dismiss messier being unable to do anything is foolish given is track record of past successes

- Slimtj100


All you speak of happened while he was a player. Not one of them happened in any other role....not as an assistant coach, not as a coach of a minor league team, and hell, not even as a coach of a pee wee team. He coached a team in a tournament.

Part of the problem I really can see is him wanting these players to play up to his level, meaning the level he played as when he was one of the best two way forwards ever. He may not be as tolerant of mistakes, or know how to relate to guys who cannot raise their level to his expectations. I read somewhere that he gets extremely emotional watching games from a bar...can you imagine behind the bench?

Look, I could be way off base here. I love Messier, and the 94 Rangers were the most important team in my sports watching life. I miss those days...but, I do not think this can work. As a GM, as it seems that he has been in training for since 2009? YES. He has been learning how to run an organization, I assume, from one of the better GM's in the history of the league. I just do not think he should be behind the bench of the New York Rangers because of a nostalgia trip.
TPC
New York Rangers
Location: Bucks County, PA
Joined: 01.18.2008

Jun 3 @ 6:24 PM ET
twitter is broken
- jambodelta99

I thought Game of Thrones was going to kill it last night, man I still can't stop thinking about that shyt
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