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Bill Meltzer
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Location: Philadelphia, PA
Joined: 07.13.2006

May 31 @ 2:11 PM ET
Bill great stuff as usual, after reading the Power Forwards and Undersized forwards what are your thoughts, if any on Justin Bailey
- PhillyTruth[6’4, 185#, R, C/RW], Jimmy Lodge [6’1, 165#, R, RW] or Gabryel Paquin-Boudreau [5’11, 160#, L, LW] in terms of second rounders?


Pulling for Lodge, since he's a local product, and I think he's a viable second rounder. Bailey is a decent 2nd-round prospect with iffy offensive upside in the NHL. I wouldn't take Paquin-Boudreau in 2nd round, but certainly the 3rd.

PhillyTruth
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Philly, PA
Joined: 01.16.2013

May 31 @ 2:14 PM ET
Pulling for Lodge, since he's a local product, and I think he's a viable second rounder. Bailey is a decent 2nd-round prospect with iffy offensive upside in the NHL. I wouldn't take Paquin-Boudreau in 2nd round, but certainly the 3rd.
- bmeltzer



Bill Thanks for the response, agreed on Lodge, be nice to see a local kid get a shot
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 31 @ 2:29 PM ET
I'd love to see them trade down some in the 1st, and pick up another 2nd rounder.
- bradleyc4


I just can't wait for this draft. I have learned more about these players then any other draft. I would kill to get tickets to the draft but only poopy Devils season ticket holders can get tickets...

So in other words only about 1000 people will be offered tickets....
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 31 @ 2:31 PM ET
Bill Thanks for the response, agreed on Lodge, be nice to see a local kid get a shot
- PhillyTruth


It did wonders for Mark Eaton.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 31 @ 2:35 PM ET
I just can't wait for this draft. I have learned more about these players then any other draft. I would kill to get tickets to the draft but only poopy Devils season ticket holders can get tickets...

So in other words only about 1000 people will be offered tickets....

- youarewrong


You can go on the Devils website and try to win tickets.
youarewrong
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 31 @ 2:43 PM ET
You can go on the Devils website and try to win tickets.
- bradleyc4


Did that already, just not that lucky and I know it.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 31 @ 3:24 PM ET
Did that already, just not that lucky and I know it.
- youarewrong



i bet you could walk up the day of the draft and get in
no way the place will be full
aightwebang17
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Typical Montreal, PA
Joined: 07.10.2008

May 31 @ 3:30 PM ET
i bet you could walk up the day of the draft and get in
no way the place will be full

- Don'tForgetTocchet

They can't even sell out a game LOL
JAKEw1234
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: 2Spookyville, PA
Joined: 03.09.2013

May 31 @ 4:12 PM ET
Did that already, just not that lucky and I know it.
- youarewrong

Or you can scout http://www.stubhub.com/nhl-draft-tickets/ and wait until some people try to sell their tickets.
Marc D
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: best smile, 14 without fake tees
Joined: 03.28.2008

May 31 @ 4:13 PM ET
Assuming Briere is bought out, which seems to be a certainty,
where do you see him signing and for how much?
I don't think he is retiring yet.
bradleyc4
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: the jewelry is still out
Joined: 01.16.2007

May 31 @ 4:16 PM ET
Assuming Briere is bought out, which seems to be a certainty,
where do you see him signing and for how much?
I don't think he is retiring yet.

- Marc D


Buffalo? Toronto? Montreal? Washington? New Jersey?

I'd guess somewhere close to his current home, or his old stomping grounds in Buffalo.
jmatchett383
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Newark, DE
Joined: 03.09.2010

May 31 @ 4:16 PM ET
Assuming Briere is bought out, which seems to be a certainty,
where do you see him signing and for how much?
I don't think he is retiring yet.

- Marc D


NYI - close, lots of $$, could use some veteran help in the top 6.
Montreal - from Quebec, would get to play for the most storied franchise ever
Buffalo - familiar for him and his kids
johndewar
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: South Jersey, NJ
Joined: 01.16.2009

May 31 @ 4:24 PM ET
Buffalo? Toronto? Montreal? Washington? New Jersey?

I'd guess somewhere close to his current home, or his old stomping grounds in Buffalo.

- bradleyc4


Yup, any of these probably.
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 31 @ 4:39 PM ET
Bill Meltzer: Meltzer's Musings: Lamarche and Raffl, Undersized Skill in 2013 Draft
- bmeltzer


Big fan of Oliver Bjorkstrand and like what I had watched of Morgan Klimchuk
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 31 @ 4:41 PM ET
I'm hoping the Flyers draft Everett's goalie, Austin Lotz, who was able to prevent the "guaranteed sweep" of Everett by Portland by stealing two games away from home.
- Flyskippy


Pfft I'm going with Tristan Jarry of Edmonton if they took a goalie or perhaps Spencer Martin of Mississauga
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 31 @ 5:05 PM ET
Pfft I'm going with Tristan Jarry of Edmonton if they took a goalie or perhaps Spencer Martin of Mississauga
- ob18


They'll take a high school goalie
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 31 @ 6:03 PM ET
They'll take a high school goalie
- Jsaquella


Would it really shock you?
griouxmvp2012
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: NJ
Joined: 06.27.2011

May 31 @ 6:11 PM ET
Assuming Briere is bought out, which seems to be a certainty,
where do you see him signing and for how much?
I don't think he is retiring yet.

- Marc D

Say briere did retire he would just come off the books rite because he's not an over 35 contract??
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 31 @ 6:47 PM ET
Say briere did retire he would just come off the books rite because he's not an over 35 contract??
- griouxmvp2012


If Briere retired this summer without being bought out, the Flyers would face a two year cap penalty of $4mm per year, in 2013-14 and 2014-15
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 31 @ 6:48 PM ET
Would it really shock you?
- ob18


About as much as if they drafted the toughest guy in the QMJHL
ravishingone
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: United States, PA
Joined: 06.30.2007

May 31 @ 6:50 PM ET
I'm on the Shinkaruk bandwagon for #11. I like his skill set and compete level, I believe his game can translate to the NHL. If the choice was between Pullock and Shinkaruk, it would be a pretty tough decision.
Don'tForgetTocchet
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Ground Zero Brooklyn
Joined: 02.08.2007

May 31 @ 6:54 PM ET
If Briere retired this summer without being bought out, the Flyers would face a two year cap penalty of $4mm per year, in 2013-14 and 2014-15
- Jsaquella



why? i thought it was only over 35 contracts

i'm baffled that the nhlpa voted for this
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 31 @ 6:54 PM ET
I'm on the Shinkaruk bandwagon for #11. I like his skill set and compete level, I believe his game can translate to the NHL. If the choice was between Pullock and Shinkaruk, it would be a pretty tough decision.
- ravishingone


I still have a list of about 15 guys, any of whom I'd be good with. Outside of obvious reaches, of course.

I'm still very interested in possibly trading down, to add a few other picks. Ideally if they could grab second first rounder, but even an early second rounder would probably be intriguing.
Jsaquella
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: Bringing Hexy Back
Joined: 06.16.2006

May 31 @ 6:56 PM ET
why? i thought it was only over 35 contracts

i'm baffled that the nhlpa voted for this

- Don'tForgetTocchet


Briere's original contract was longer than six years, so the cap recapture rules apply to him.

If they use a compliance buy out and he retires, they get off scott free
ob18
Philadelphia Flyers
Location: That matters less than you hope it does
Joined: 07.20.2007

May 31 @ 6:57 PM ET
About as much as if they drafted the toughest guy in the QMJHL
- Jsaquella


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