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HB77
Edmonton Oilers
Location: PC is a genius for drafting mcdavid
Joined: 02.20.2007

May 30 @ 8:28 PM ET
Any other anchor contracts the isles got to give? Dipietro seems like a backwards move for the nucks. They're not getting much value in return as getting rid of the contract IS the value.
But at least lu can play if they dont move him, whereas rick isnt even nhl caliber.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 30 @ 8:30 PM ET
Any other anchor contracts the isles got to give? Dipietro seems like a backwards move for the nucks. They're not getting much value in return as getting rid of the contract IS the value.
But at least lu can play if they dont move him, whereas rick isnt even nhl caliber.

- hugefemale dog77

Nope, every other Islander is on an insanely manageable contract. Tavares' contract is 100% without a doubt the best contract in the league, in terms of what you pay and what you get.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 30 @ 8:30 PM ET
O'Reilly can play both sides of the puck and put up a more-than-respectable number of points. He also led the league in takeaways two years ago. (Finishing with two more TkA's than Tavares). I said it when there was the whole drama surrounding him at the beginning of this season and I'll say it now, I would absolutely love him on this team. His advanced statistics are phenomenal.
- eichiefs9


He is one hell of a player, but if the Avs draft McKinnon, his days are numbers and so trade him while he has great value for a piece that you can building with. Core player for Core player.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 8:31 PM ET
Any other anchor contracts the isles got to give? Dipietro seems like a backwards move for the nucks. They're not getting much value in return as getting rid of the contract IS the value.
But at least lu can play if they dont move him, whereas rick isnt even nhl caliber.

- hugefemale dog77


I would LOVE to see Gillis keep Luongo, I'd pvr that press conference and watch it over and over again. I imagine his face would look worse than Burke's did when Snow wouldn't trade the pick and took Tavares.

Aetherial
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: Has anyone discussed the standings today?
Joined: 06.30.2006

May 30 @ 8:33 PM ET
Luongo to the Islanders for Dipietro and a gourmet steak dinner on Snow. That's probably more than I want to give up for that contract anyway. If I had it my way it would be dinner at the Olive Garden.

Seriously though, not giving up a single asset for Luongo and that contract.

- eichiefs9


that was my position last year also.

I didn't want anything to do with that contract, but I especially did not want to give up even the slightest value for him whatsoever.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 8:35 PM ET
that was my position last year also.

I didn't want anything to do with that contract, but I especially did not want to give up even the slightest value for him whatsoever.

- Aetherial



you guys are in an even better position to say no this year after the job Reimer did. Bad final game but great year overall and a good young goaltender
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 30 @ 8:35 PM ET
that was my position last year also.

I didn't want anything to do with that contract, but I especially did not want to give up even the slightest value for him whatsoever.

- Aetherial

It's a completely logic-based position for young teams with talent. Don't mortgage the future for current talent that's beginning the downslope of it's career.

In fact, that would be a great tagline for the book titled "NY Islanders: The Milbury Years"
Ledgermain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Not Phoenix
Joined: 05.30.2013

May 30 @ 8:43 PM ET
What about that Tim Thomas guy?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 9:12 PM ET
Like the idea of Lou and love him as a player. His contract is just so albatross I wouldn't give up anything other than DP, a late round pick and maybe a low end prospect (ie: Halmo)

With so many other goalies in the FA pool (Backstorm, Nabby, Emery,etc) and even better ones on the trade market (Hiller, Halak, Miller, Bernier, etc) i doubt Lou winds up back on the island. Just more appealing options else where that are more suitable for islanders

And people who think the Islanders will give up Nino for Lou have to be so high. Guy is a former top 5 pick a couple years ago (20 years old!) and since he had 1 bad year on a terrible team, playing with two non-goal scores, on the forth line, after being rushed to the NHL too early; he is just supposed to have no value, be considered a bust, and be completely expendable? I don't think so

- engrassias2

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 9:13 PM ET
that was my position last year also.

I didn't want anything to do with that contract, but I especially did not want to give up even the slightest value for him whatsoever.

- Aetherial

It will be Snows as well.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 9:15 PM ET
What about that Tim Thomas guy?
- Ledgermain

The guy we are not paying and never did yet his contract counts against the cap so we can reach the floor? That Tim Thomas? If I were to guess he's probably at home right now watching Fox news drinking a Budweiser.
kear20
New York Islanders
Joined: 07.03.2007

May 30 @ 9:15 PM ET
Cut the BS...just trade for Bernier or get Smith as a UFA...
NewYawkIslandez
New York Islanders
Location: NYC, NY
Joined: 01.10.2008

May 30 @ 9:17 PM ET
Can we trade you for a steamy bag of shat?
- Vukota

Who would make a trade like that? id much rather have a steamy bag of shat then her...That would be a Milburyesque trade
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 30 @ 9:20 PM ET
The Sabres fan who was in here the other week proposing Nino and a first for Miller...I wouldn't want to do that deal, personally, but I'd do that long before I'd give up the same for Luongo.

((UIF))
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 9:22 PM ET
I saw the title of this blog and just said to myself, "Let the ridiculous demands from Canucks fans begin!". Some things are predictable on this site. Bad blogs from Dee and crazy demands for the return on Roberto Luongo from Canucks fans are definitely two of them.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 9:24 PM ET
The Sabres fan who was in here the other week proposing Nino and a first for Miller...I wouldn't want to do that deal, personally, but I'd do that long before I'd give up the same for Luongo.
- UIF

I think most of us on here want to see Nino play unless he's a piece of a trade for something really big and beneficial to this club. I hope Snow agrees.
Ledgermain
Pittsburgh Penguins
Location: Not Phoenix
Joined: 05.30.2013

May 30 @ 9:26 PM ET
The guy we are not paying and never did yet his contract counts against the cap so we can reach the floor? That Tim Thomas? If I were to guess he's probably at home right now watching Fox news drinking a Budweiser.
- Cptmjl


Ahhhhh that's what happened...
UIF
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 01.09.2009

May 30 @ 9:30 PM ET
I saw the title of this blog and just said to myself, "Let the ridiculous demands from Canucks fans begin!". Some things are predictable on this site. Bad blogs from Dee and crazy demands for the return on Roberto Luongo from Canucks fans are definitely two of them.
- Cptmjl



And Nino thrown into every trade for any player rumored to be possibly on the market.

((UIF))
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 30 @ 9:36 PM ET
He is one hell of a player, but if the Avs draft McKinnon, his days are numbers and so trade him while he has great value for a piece that you can building with. Core player for Core player.
- DDM-Coga


why would O'Reilly days be numbered? Avs could try him on wing if possible, plus McKinnon might not be ready, you just don't know how kids will perform.
I believe Avs have a lot of cap space, just need a defense.
Plus if McKinnon is ready, you can make him 3rd line C and ease him in to the NHL.....You guys have a young team and should not trade any young assets
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 9:47 PM ET
Ahhhhh that's what happened...
- Ledgermain

Correct
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 9:49 PM ET
why would O'Reilly days be numbered? Avs could try him on wing if possible, plus McKinnon might not be ready, you just don't know how kids will perform.
I believe Avs have a lot of cap space, just need a defense.
Plus if McKinnon is ready, you can make him 3rd line C and ease him in to the NHL.....You guys have a young team and should not trade any young assets

- Ur Not Me

If they can afford it as far as cap or otherwise for that matter than why not keep Oreilly. He's a good player, they don't grow on trees. You find a slot for them and make it work.
jmo16
New York Islanders
Location: No Whining Allowed! This is a blog. Silly Gif's only!
Joined: 02.26.2011

May 30 @ 9:55 PM ET
can't tear up contracts or adjust them. That isn't an option, NHL contracts are guaranteed, no changes. Buyout or payout.
- Isles_since_6


you a lawyer?
If both sides agree any contract can be broken.
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 30 @ 10:07 PM ET
If they can afford it as far as cap or otherwise for that matter than why not keep Oreilly. He's a good player, they don't grow on trees. You find a slot for them and make it work.
- Cptmjl



Agreed, you don't trade young proven players unless you HAVE to, and I don't think Avs have to. The only player I could see the Avs move is Stasny bc he has 1 yr left, and they might not resign him.....but i'll take him.....in a nano second
Ur Not Me
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 11.30.2008

May 30 @ 10:08 PM ET
you a lawyer?
If both sides agree any contract can be broken.

- jmo16



I think he meant bc the players association wont allow that.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 10:23 PM ET
I think he meant bc the players association wont allow that.
- Ur Not Me


exactly, there is no way the PA will allow players with (in their opinion) awesome contracts paying huge amounts of money to be voided. In addition if you allowed that, teams that signed responsible contracts would be screaming bloody murder that their overspending counterparts who don't plan ahead can just rinse their hands of their mistakes and walk away. You will not ever see this happen. The closest you'll get was this year where teams were allowed to buy someone out early, player still got his money, team still took the cap hit.

Maybe I just thought it through more than he did.
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