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Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:57 PM ET
Rick D has a worse contract... he sucks and doesn't even play... they buyout is almost the same.
- SMP8719

You don't seem to understand that we are going to have a hard time REACHING the floor!!!! NOBODY seems to get this?!?!!?!? DP's contract is actually helping us do so!
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 30 @ 7:57 PM ET
You seem to be the only one who knows the difference between a goalie who can carry a team and one that sinks your teams fortunes.Where would pitt be without vokoun.Watching Fluery tee it up thats where.I like the islanders team but without a great goalie you will be watching other teams play in apr may while your team is done.
- Bigali


No question the Islanders need to improve in goal but is Lu and that contract the only answer?
NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

May 30 @ 7:58 PM ET
No question the Islanders need to improve in goal but is Lu and that contract the only answer?
- ses111

No way. There are other options. No way it's worth giving up Nino
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:59 PM ET
No question the Islanders need to improve in goal but is Lu and that contract the only answer?
- ses111

NO. We have ZERO cap issues. The only problem we have is REACHING the floor!
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:59 PM ET
No way. There are other options. No way it's worth giving up Nino
- NYI44

Snow would do it for Bernier but he is in no way giving him up for Luongo. These guys can say whatever they want they're only blowing smoke up their own a$$es
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 30 @ 8:00 PM ET
No way. There are other options. No way it's worth giving up Nino
- NYI44


I agree and many other teams so far agree as well.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 30 @ 8:00 PM ET
this is why I think Vancouver buys out Luongo this year and Gillis eats a big heaping plate of crow. If they trade Luongo anywhere this is a very real possibility down the road, and it may come when they can least afford to take a cap hit.
- Isles_since_6[/quote
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When gillis is probably gone .... So he won't care lol
NYI_since_72
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.25.2013

May 30 @ 8:01 PM ET
Then the Islanders won't get him. Pretty simple.
- woopstash

That's ok. We don't want him or his lousy contract
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 30 @ 8:01 PM ET
Snow would do it for Bernier but he is in no way giving him up for Luongo. These guys can say whatever they want they're only blowing smoke up their own a$$es
- Cptmjl


Right. Giving up Nino for Bernier is one thing giving up Nino for Lu is a whole other ballgame.
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 30 @ 8:01 PM ET
Lou and Ballard/Hamius for DiJesus, Nino, and De Haan, maybe some draft pick here and there to square it all off.

Isles get a legit number 1 goalie, and a veteran help on D, plus getting rid of that terrible contract.
Canucks get rid of a media question distraction, and 2 young players but have 18 years of buyout hell.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 8:02 PM ET
That's ok. We don't want him or his lust contract
- NYI_since_72

WTF does this even mean?
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 30 @ 8:02 PM ET
I don't think anyone questions his skill now. It's the fact that he's 34 and is going to carry a cap hit of $5.33M until he's 43. That's the issue, that's why I wouldn't give you a single scrap of anything other than a straight up swap for DP. His buyout is far more attractive than Luongo's. I realize no VAN fan would ever agree to that. I'd take my chances elsewhere before I let Lu's contract handcuff this team years down the line.
- eichiefs9


Nope Almost the same
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 8:03 PM ET
You seem to be the only one who knows the difference between a goalie who can carry a team and one that sinks your teams fortunes.Where would pitt be without vokoun.Watching Fluery tee it up thats where.I like the islanders team but without a great goalie you will be watching other teams play in apr may while your team is done.
- Bigali


how far did Luongo carry your team?

SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 30 @ 8:03 PM ET
you canuck fans. You seem to think WE suggested this was a good trade, and got all insulted when we don't want Luongo. Let's examine this.

DP's buyout, 16 years at 1.5 mil cap hit. We have 30 mil in cap space, we can handle it. We're sure as hell not going to give up an asset to take back a similar situation that might be good for 3 years to leave us in the same spot, and give up whatever benefits we could have had from the assets you're expecting over the next 7-10 years.

We.do.not.want.Luongo.

we will take him to replace DP since the buyouts are similar, and we may benefit for 2-3 years. Snow is not building a team for 2-3 years or we would have made drastic moves before now. It's clear he's expecting this team to be competitive for a long time. No assets for you.

buyout luongo yourself and we'll both have buyouts. We might sign Luongo as a UFA after that, but it'll be a much shorter contract.

- Isles_since_6


that makes sence.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 8:03 PM ET
Lou and Ballard/Hamius for DiJesus, Nino, and De Haan, maybe some draft pick here and there to square it all off.

Isles get a legit number 1 goalie, and a veteran help on D, plus getting rid of that terrible contract.
Canucks get rid of a media question distraction, and 2 young players but have 18 years of buyout hell.

- DDM-Coga

This is more believable though I still doubt any of this is happening. the Lu for Nino and DP plus a pick shat has to stop. You guys are making yourselves look foolish
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 8:04 PM ET
Nope Almost the same
- SMP8719

The term is shorter and it's a bit less.
NYI_since_72
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.25.2013

May 30 @ 8:05 PM ET
WTF does this even mean?
- Cptmjl

Sorry, just had a mispelling. Please recheck
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 8:05 PM ET
Nope Almost the same
- SMP8719


exactly, but we're fine with a DP buyout, that still leaves us 28 mil to fill 3-4 spots? Why should we do you a favor and take Luongo and give you something valuable in return? If Gillis buys out Luongo the entire league is going to be laughing at him more than they already are when he tries to say the contract is not an issue, and we want two NHL ready players, a 1st round pick and a top prospect in return? Jesus.

NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

May 30 @ 8:05 PM ET
This is more believable though I still doubt any of this is happening. the Lu for Nino and DP plus a pick shat has to stop. You guys are making yourselves look foolish
- Cptmjl

Agreed. It's really enough. There's no way there giving up Nino for Lu. That would be so stupid and not happening
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 8:05 PM ET
Sorry, just had a mispelling. Please recheck
- NYI_since_72

I though I was missing something?
DDM-Coga
Colorado Avalanche
Location: If Chabot is not in the NHL, Ill revoke my account - AlfiesSald, AB
Joined: 07.24.2009

May 30 @ 8:06 PM ET
This is more believable though I still doubt any of this is happening. the Lu for Nino and DP plus a pick shat has to stop. You guys are making yourselves look foolish
- Cptmjl


Its hard to look past all the players but end of the day any trade that had Lou or DP is all about the money and cap space. Like how Flames gave away Regher, Kotalik, and 2nd round pick for pluggers just to make it under the cap.
eichiefs9
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 11.03.2008

May 30 @ 8:07 PM ET
Lou and Ballard/Hamius for DiJesus, Nino, and De Haan, maybe some draft pick here and there to square it all off.

Isles get a legit number 1 goalie, and a veteran help on D, plus getting rid of that terrible contract.
Canucks get rid of a media question distraction, and 2 young players but have 18 years of buyout hell.

- DDM-Coga



No. Never in a million years.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 8:07 PM ET
Agreed. It's really enough. There's no way there giving up Nino for Lu. That would be so stupid and not happening
- NYI44

I'm a broken record here but we still need quite a bit of money just to get to the floor. I like Lu, I really do( )but we all know Snow better than to give up the future for 2-3 yrs of decent goaltending.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 8:07 PM ET
Lou and Ballard/Hamius for DiJesus, Nino, and De Haan, maybe some draft pick here and there to square it all off.

Isles get a legit number 1 goalie, and a veteran help on D, plus getting rid of that terrible contract.
Canucks get rid of a media question distraction, and 2 young players but have 18 years of buyout hell.

- DDM-Coga


are you fvcking kidding me? Take two of Vancouver's three massive issues and give them two prospects in return that have value? Ballard has been a benchwarmer at 4.25 mil. Luongo, Booth and Ballard are 20 percent of Vancouver's cap and two of them don't play and one's an injury problem that scored 1 goal last year. Why doesn't Snow get on his knees and suck Gillis off at the same time. christ.

Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 8:08 PM ET
Its hard to look past all the players but end of the day any trade that had Lou or DP is all about the money and cap space. Like how Flames gave away Regher, Kotalik, and 2nd round pick for pluggers just to make it under the cap.
- DDM-Coga

I'm not disagreeing with you, remember I'm a fan of the team that signed Tim Thomas to a phantom contract
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