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NYI44
New York Islanders
Location: Long Island, NY
Joined: 05.18.2013

May 30 @ 6:54 PM ET
absolutely. Bernier, Hiller, Halak, all better options than taking on another terrible contract. We have Poulin and Nilsson, both very young, both with promise. Probably best at the moment to not commit to the position for the next decade without seeing if one of them can play first, and signing someone who can to a short term deal or fairly inexpensive trade while we get to see the kids spelling him off and figure out what we have.
- Isles_since_6

I agree. If they want, they'll buy out DP. I would rather have Hiller, then the Luongo contract. I just don't see what the point would be in getting Lu unless its an even swap for DP. Lu's signed til he's 43 and there are many other goalies
LeftCoaster
San Jose Sharks
Location: Shark City, CA
Joined: 07.03.2009

May 30 @ 6:55 PM ET
where did I say I had inside information? It is a discussion, you just don't like that we won't agree with you.
- Isles_since_6

Personally I'd likr them to trade Schneider for the better return, but that seems unlikely.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 6:57 PM ET
Personally I'd likr them to trade Schneider for the better return, but that seems unlikely.
- LeftCoaster


you'll get one hell of a return if you trade Schneider, and with the Canucks in "win now" mode that's clearly the best course your GM could take. Would leave you with a goaltender for the next couple of years who is still playing well, plus a number of assets in return for Schneider and bring up Lack to back up Luongo. I don't know why Gillis had to say he was going to move Luongo.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

May 30 @ 7:00 PM ET
McKen and Nuck fans are thinking us trading DP for them to buyout is also worth us giving them Niño and a first

Stupid thing is. Nucks absolutely need to trade Lumgo and more to fit under the cap
And we don't NEED to buyout DP..
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 30 @ 7:01 PM ET
where did I say I had inside information? It is a discussion, you just don't like that we won't agree with you.

to clarify this just so you understand, I'm not saying Luongo sucks, he's a terrific goalie. If he was signed to a 2-3 year deal you'd get a heck of a lot for him. Unfortunately, that's not the case.

- Isles_since_6


Lu coming back to the Isles and being part of a big success would be some nice story it just does not seem to be a great fit. There are other options that make more sense.
Danformo
New York Islanders
Location: NY
Joined: 03.22.2012

May 30 @ 7:04 PM ET
A Luongo for Dipietro deal straight up is not going to happen.
Luongo is still a good goalie. Dipietro is a buy out and will never play a game again.

- woopstash


If Lu isn't traded he has to be bought out
Nucks have little leverage
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 7:04 PM ET
McKen and Nuck fans are thinking us trading DP for them to buyout is also worth us giving them Niño and a first

Stupid thing is. Nucks absolutely need to trade Lumgo and more to fit under the cap
And we don't NEED to buyout DP..

- Danformo


and since Garth has started the rebuild he doesn't throw away assets, if anything we'd like to see him be more aggressive. The chances of this happening are nil.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 7:06 PM ET
If Lu isn't traded he has to be bought out
Nucks have little leverage

- Danformo


yup, if they're going to get dinged with a massive cap hit if he retires early down the road, no matter where they trade him, it's not worth the risk. They'll have to buy him out unless Gillis pisses on the canucks future and keeps trying to save face by getting something back in a trade.
Hawkeyes
Chicago Blackhawks
Location: Chicago, IL
Joined: 02.20.2012

May 30 @ 7:06 PM ET
I wasn't aware Chicago had to make drastic salary cuts and declared they would be moving Hossa after benching him for a younger kid. My mistake.
- Isles_since_6


the hawks are fine, just dont expect to see stalberg as a hawk next season as i doubt they are gonna resign him
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 7:08 PM ET
the hawks are fine, just dont expect to see stalberg as a hawk next season as i doubt they are gonna resign him
- Hawkeyes


I was being sarcastic with the previous poster, I know the Hawks are fine and don't have to move Hossa
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 30 @ 7:31 PM ET
Another blog to argue about Luongo's value, yay!



Nucker101
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 30 @ 7:31 PM ET
the hawks are fine, just dont expect to see stalberg as a hawk next season as i doubt they are gonna resign him
- Hawkeyes



Can they afford Bickell either?



Nucker101
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 30 @ 7:32 PM ET
Personally I'd likr them to trade Schneider for the better return, but that seems unlikely.
- LeftCoaster



Luongo has to go at this point, trading Schneider would bring in a way better return but Luongo is gone for sure. The bridge has been burned!



Nucker101
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:38 PM ET
Then the Islanders won't get him. Pretty simple.
- woopstash

Then that's fine. Vancouver can keep him for the next 12 years.
Nucker101
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 09.26.2010

May 30 @ 7:38 PM ET
Then that's fine. Vancouver can keep him for the next 12 years.
- Cptmjl





Nucker101
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:40 PM ET
Ya. The Tim Thomas/Nabokov duo is much better.
- woopstash

Nabakov is not signed but I'd take him for one year with either Poulin or Nilsson backing him up rather than another albatross goalie contract and giving up Nino to boot. Not happening.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:42 PM ET




Nucker101

- Nucker101

Sorry man, we already have DP who is useless but if need be Wang has the option to buy him out. To take on Luongo's contract get a good goalie for a few years and give up Nino for him in the process? Snow is not Mike Milbury you guys have him confused.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:43 PM ET
So you're counting on signing a UFA goalie? Which one?
- woopstash

Nabakov who will come cheap rather than giving up a former fifth round pick who is probably going to be a first line power forward. That's bordering on retarded. It may sound great to you but I'm guessing nobody else in the world except for maybe a Canucks fan?
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:46 PM ET
Well the Islanders need to make a move because isn't DP the only goalie they have under contract for next year.

Lou is still a really good goalie.

- StevenStiller

No we don't. We are going to be somewhere in the neighborhood of 15 mil below the cap floor, we could have five goalies under contract
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:46 PM ET
Would you trade Marion Hossa for Ricky D? I didn't think so, Van won't trade Lu for RD either.
- LeftCoaster

That's fine. Then you can keep him. Enjoy
ses111
New York Islanders
Joined: 06.07.2008

May 30 @ 7:49 PM ET
Nabakov is not signed but I'd take him for one year with either Poulin or Nilsson backing him up rather than another albatross goalie contract and giving up Nino to boot. Not happening.
- Cptmjl


I'll cheer like crazy for Lu if we get him but he is not the droid we are looking for. I'd rather bring back Nabby for a year and give plenty of time to Poulin or Nilsson.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:51 PM ET
I'll cheer like crazy for Lu if we get him but he is not the droid we are looking for. I'd rather bring back Nabby for a year and give plenty of time to Poulin or Nilsson.
- ses111

I just posted that earlier. I like Luongo, I think he's awesome and got a bad rap. I'd take him in a heart beat(minus his contract) but these guys sayin we would have to give up Nino as well as DP and a pick? Seriously get a grip. We are doing you a favor even if you take DP. The only cap trouble we are in is reaching the floor, DP's contract is have=ing zero effect on us in fact it's helping us reach the floor for Snow, these guys just don't get that. Mackenzie can tweet whatever he wants, doubt it's happening. Nino
Bigali
Vancouver Canucks
Location: richmond, BC
Joined: 05.30.2013

May 30 @ 7:52 PM ET
It's pretty simple: If the Islanders want to improve, they would take Luongo. If they want to stay the same or get worse, they don't. Luongo is a damn fine goalie still and would improve the Islanders.
- woopstash


You seem to be the only one who knows the difference between a goalie who can carry a team and one that sinks your teams fortunes.Where would pitt be without vokoun.Watching Fluery tee it up thats where.I like the islanders team but without a great goalie you will be watching other teams play in apr may while your team is done.
SMP8719
Vancouver Canucks
Location: ALDY , BC
Joined: 02.24.2012

May 30 @ 7:55 PM ET
Luongo to the Islanders for Dipietro and a gourmet steak dinner on Snow. That's probably more than I want to give up for that contract anyway. If I had it my way it would be dinner at the Olive Garden.

Seriously though, not giving up a single asset for Luongo and that contract.

- eichiefs9


Rick D has a worse contract... he sucks and doesn't even play... they buyout is almost the same.
Cptmjl
New York Islanders
Joined: 11.05.2011

May 30 @ 7:56 PM ET
You seem to be the only one who knows the difference between a goalie who can carry a team and one that sinks your teams fortunes.Where would pitt be without vokoun.Watching Fluery tee it up thats where.I like the islanders team but without a great goalie you will be watching other teams play in apr may while your team is done.
- Bigali

Yes we will. You are right. Snow will find another option whether it be Halak Bernier, or even resigning Nabakov for a year(prob going to happen), with two promising goalies in Nilsson and Poulin we aren't going to take on Luongo's contract especially while giving up a pretty much sure fire first line power forward in Nino. Hysterical. Again, I think Loungo is great but don't hold your breath on this one, especially for what some of you guys are thinking the return is going to be
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