sure he could be a key piece to moving forward, but if we give up a key piece (right wing for tavares) for a goaltender when there are PLENTY of available options that are cheap and can do the job (pens made the conf finals with vokoun, who was bought off the scrap heap, Isles made the playoffs with a 37 year old goaltender who was not very good in the beginning of the year, or the playoffs)

why should we give up a piece when we can keep it and get a piece that might not be quite as good but will be a crap load less expensive and won't cost us the piece we want to keep?
- Isles_since_6

Trading Nino has already been thrown out, we were talking lower tier now, don't know how hard that would impact your team if Nino and Strome are pushing for spots, guessing there aren't too many other holes up front.

Pens made the conf. finals with Vokoun on game 3 of the Isles series, Vokoun was a backup, they are an extremely deep team, Vokoun is good but the rest of the Pens team is carrying their weight just fine.

You're turning your buried goalie into something not just useful but franchise changing, this so called piece, which is completely arbitrary at the moment, that you want to cling to is gonna hold ya back. Old Wang and Snow know they have to get a good contending team on the ice, Lu instantly does that, you'll be all primed and ready for Brooklyn.

Canucks fans right now are that pushy sales guy trying to sell you the overpriced thing you don't need. Of course it (frank)ing sparkles, why else would I try and sell it to you!!?? What? What do you mean, "do you need it?" what kind of a question is that??!! LOOK (frank)ER, IT SPARKLES!
- Isles_since_6

Trading Nino has already been thrown out, we were talking lower tier now, don't know how hard that would impact your team if Nino and Strome are pushing for spots, guessing there aren't too many other holes up front.

Pens made the conf. finals with Vokoun on game 3 of the Isles series, Vokoun was a backup, they are an extremely deep team, Vokoun is good but the rest of the Pens team is carrying their weight just fine.

You're turning your buried goalie into something not just useful but franchise changing, this so called piece, which is completely arbitrary at the moment, that you want to cling to is gonna hold ya back. Old Wang and Snow know they have to get a good contending team on the ice, Lu instantly does that, you'll be all primed and ready for Brooklyn.
- nelson911

hey if the canucks want to take DP and Wishart for Luongo and a 3rd, I could possibly stomach doing them that favor, but there's a limit to my charity.

to be completely honest, personally, I'd take a pass on Luongo only to watch Mike Gillis explain to the Vancouver media why he had to buy out Luongo a year after proudly stating his demanded return in a trade for Luongo, and that the contract "is not an issue"

seriously. I am dying to see that. It would have just as much comic value as someone asking Brian Burke how he felt when Snow told him that he couldn't have the pick that became Tavares.

I need to see this. Luongo must stay. Until it's time to buy him out. Then roll cameras!

It really is a funny situation, Gillis has messed this up OH so badly, Schneider should've been out the door already garnering a larger return, he now can't go that route and now he has to take way lower than market value for Lu. I just want to see Luongo get out of the crap storm, he deserves better. Gillis is a bum. If someone does take Lu off their hands via trade I don't think they will be disappointed.

I just dont see Kevin Poulin as a NHL goalie..i hope i'm wrong..i just don't see it

interesting, but the only way Luongo goes to the Islanders AND the Canucks are generous enough to buy out Dipietro for them then the Islanders would have to send back a huge piece. If I was Vancouver it would be no less than Strome. Maybe even Strome and a 1st which would never happen.

Luongo

for:

Strome
2013 15th overall pick
Dipietro (buy-out bait)

Would Islanders fans consider it?

interesting, but the only way Luongo goes to the Islanders AND the Canucks are generous enough to buy out Dipietro for them then the Islanders would have to send back a huge piece. If I was Vancouver it would be no less than Strome. Maybe even Strome and a 1st which would never happen.

Luongo

for:

Strome
2013 15th overall pick
Dipietro (buy-out bait)

Would Islanders fans consider it?
- Steven_Dean

um..how can i say this nicely...this is by far one of the worst trade offers i have ever seen in my life

I am convinced more than half the people who post on this site are either on drugs or legally heavily medicated. Why do we want Luongo so bad? Why the (frank) would we trade anything of significance for him and his contract. Strome? Nino? Are you high?

We are eventually going to need cap space. Soon. A 35 something year old goalie who doesn't even start? Who never steps up in the playoffs? Do we need that albatross here, especially after the DP debacle. Uh....(frank) no.

Just trade Okposo and Poulin to LA for Bernier already.

I am convinced more than half the people who post on this site are either on drugs or legally heavily medicated. Why do we want Luongo so bad? Why the (frank) would we trade anything of significance for him and his contract. Strome? Nino? Are you high?

We are eventually going to need cap space. Soon. A 35 something year old goalie who doesn't even start? Who never steps up in the playoffs? Do we need that albatross here, especially after the DP debacle. Uh....(frank) no.
- potvin05

i'd be interested in luongo if he got bought out and it was a 2-3 year deal..he would make this team better but i don't want that elephant of a contract

interesting, but the only way Luongo goes to the Islanders AND the Canucks are generous enough to buy out Dipietro for them then the Islanders would have to send back a huge piece. If I was Vancouver it would be no less than Strome. Maybe even Strome and a 1st which would never happen.

Luongo

for:

Strome
2013 15th overall pick
Dipietro (buy-out bait)

Would Islanders fans consider it?
- Steven_Dean

ah HAAAA HAA, Did you read the rest of the comments before this? because your answer is in there.

i'd be interested in luongo if he got bought out and it was a 2-3 year deal..he would make this team better but i don't want that elephant of a contract
- NYI78

Anyone who wants that contract is either a glutton for punishment or a Canucks fan trying to get rid of it. He's still a good goalie, obviously, but to commit that kind of money for that many years for a guy who will well be into his 40s by the end of it is cap suicide.

We still need to add a few UFAs and pay some of the younger players...we will use the excessive amount of cap space we have sooner than later.

You're nuts for several reasons. One is that Luongo >> Miller. Second, no way the Sabres trade him to a team they'll battle with to make the playoffs. Third, no way Miller's worth a 1st let alone another player.

Lu's contract is not good but his cap hit isn't bad and he gets you into the playoffs which means his effort more than pays for his salary. From the owner's viewpoint, that's all that matters. The Flyers make the playoffs with Lu and not only do they net 2M per game they get much more with the TV part. The caps are tired of losing and will be looking at a new tender as well. Dallas can't afford to lose another year. Phoenix needs someone to play goal.

Too many people think this will be a hockey trade. It won't. It will be a business decision and it will be made by an owner and not a GM. If the Flyers can't sign Smith, they go after Lu.
- therealagent

Okay...now you're nuts. His hit isn't bad NOW. When he's costing his team over $5 million at age 40-43, that contract is awful. The term itself is a huge risk for a butterfly goalie. If any team learned this lesson, it's the Isles. I won't no part of Lou or that god-awful contract

Xxkeaner17xX

If Luongo is so damn good, then why do all you Canucks fans want to get rid of him? Holy poop.
- potvin05

Not to mention the notion that the Canucks would accept DP's contract in a trade is outright silly. Dp hits the cap at only 800k less than Lou. They may as well keep Lou there as a dependable backup at that point.

To the person who suggested the Isles deal Strome/DP and picks for Lou...

I wouldn't deal Strome alone for Lou let alone include a high pick. That's outright foolish

Xxkeaner17xX

interesting, but the only way Luongo goes to the Islanders AND the Canucks are generous enough to buy out Dipietro for them then the Islanders would have to send back a huge piece. If I was Vancouver it would be no less than Strome. Maybe even Strome and a 1st which would never happen.

Luongo

for:

Strome
2013 15th overall pick
Dipietro (buy-out bait)

Would Islanders fans consider it?
- Steven_Dean

Are you High?

XxNYIxX

Simple.



Schneider = God
Luongo = Jesus


Plus Jesus is more expensive.


Nucker101
- Nucker101

We'll just have to try a different religion then.

to be completely honest, personally, I'd take a pass on Luongo only to watch Mike Gillis explain to the Vancouver media why he had to buy out Luongo a year after proudly stating his demanded return in a trade for Luongo, and that the contract "is not an issue"

seriously. I am dying to see that. It would have just as much comic value as someone asking Brian Burke how he felt when Snow told him that he couldn't have the pick that became Tavares.

I need to see this. Luongo must stay. Until it's time to buy him out. Then roll cameras!
- Isles_since_6

I don't see any way that a single team trades anything of value to obtain Lou. It's not that he isn't a good goalie, he certainly is, but teams aren't going to look to obtain a contract that lasts another 9 years, up until age 43. Teams will be more than willing to wait for Lou to get bought out and then set up a much shorter term contract especially when they know that the amnesty option exists for Vancouver. He's gone through two trade deadlines and an offseason so far without being dealt, why does anyone think it will be any different with him being a year older, yet still nearly a decade away from the end of his contract term?
Here's an interesting term though that perhaps does make him more tradeable, and I wonder if Nuck fans know this:

Per the CBA:
All years of existing SPCs with terms in excess of five (5) years will be accounted for and charged against a team's Cap (at full AAV) regardless of whether or where the Player is playing. In the event any such contract is traded during its term, the related Cap charge will travel with the Player, but only for the year(s) in which the Player remains active and is being paid under his NHL SPC. If, at some subsequent point in time the Player retires or ceases to play and/or receive pay under his NHL SPC, the Cap charge will automatically revert (at full AAV) to the Club that initially entered into the contract for the balance of its term
So you can see, the amnesty buyout is really the ONLY useful option for the Nucks and all of their potential trade partners know it.

As for what we'd give up...I think everyone knows this team well enough to realize that they're snakebitten by DP's and Yashin's contract to certainly not want to buy into a contract like this when they have three long term prospects at the position already in their system. It simply makes no sense and WON"T happen.

Xxkeaner17xX

I am convinced more than half the people who post on this site are either on drugs or legally heavily medicated. Why do we want Luongo so bad? Why the (frank) would we trade anything of significance for him and his contract. Strome? Nino? Are you high?

We are eventually going to need cap space. Soon. A 35 something year old goalie who doesn't even start? Who never steps up in the playoffs? Do we need that albatross here, especially after the DP debacle. Uh....(frank) no.
- potvin05

LOFL!!!

XxNYIxX

interesting, but the only way Luongo goes to the Islanders AND the Canucks are generous enough to buy out Dipietro for them then the Islanders would have to send back a huge piece. If I was Vancouver it would be no less than Strome. Maybe even Strome and a 1st which would never happen.

Luongo

for:

Strome
2013 15th overall pick
Dipietro (buy-out bait)

Would Islanders fans consider it?
- Steven_Dean

So wait....the Canucks want to unload Loungo's contract, but will take on DP's contract to do so? $5.3 million traded for $4.5 million, both will last until the rapture... And you want us to trade one of the best prospects in the NHL along with a 1st rounder? How about we say 'No'....watch you guys pull the inevitable amnesty buyout and then offer Lou a 3 year $15 million contract with no expense to our prospect pool....Afterall, we're managing a team here.

Xxkeaner17xX

Nino Niederreiter

And my fave...

Griffin Reinhart!! I feel like he should be brought to the team by the mother of dragons!



XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

You guys do feel like the Targaryens to me. In exile for a couple of decades, but now amassing armies and about ready to bust things up.

Brooklyn in 2 seasons changes that story really fast.

So we will have the banners & the profits

XxNYIxX
- XxNYIxX

Why are you concerned about wangs profit margin?

You guys do feel like the Targaryens to me. In exile for a couple of decades, but now amassing armies and about ready to bust things up.
- Pete V

Garth Snow is our Khaleesi!!


XxNYIxX

interesting, but the only way Luongo goes to the Islanders AND the Canucks are generous enough to buy out Dipietro for them then the Islanders would have to send back a huge piece. If I was Vancouver it would be no less than Strome. Maybe even Strome and a 1st which would never happen.

Luongo

for:

Strome
2013 15th overall pick
Dipietro (buy-out bait)

Would Islanders fans consider it?
- Steven_Dean

This is the best one so far

I don't see any way that a single team trades anything of value to obtain Lou. It's not that he isn't a good goalie, he certainly is, but teams aren't going to look to obtain a contract that lasts another 9 years, up until age 43. Teams will be more than willing to wait for Lou to get bought out and then set up a much shorter term contract especially when they know that the amnesty option exists for Vancouver. He's gone through two trade deadlines and an offseason so far without being dealt, why does anyone think it will be any different with him being a year older, yet still nearly a decade away from the end of his contract term?
Here's an interesting term though that perhaps does make him more tradeable, and I wonder if Nuck fans know this:

Per the CBA:
All years of existing SPCs with terms in excess of five (5) years will be accounted for and charged against a team's Cap (at full AAV) regardless of whether or where the Player is playing. In the event any such contract is traded during its term, the related Cap charge will travel with the Player, but only for the year(s) in which the Player remains active and is being paid under his NHL SPC. If, at some subsequent point in time the Player retires or ceases to play and/or receive pay under his NHL SPC, the Cap charge will automatically revert (at full AAV) to the Club that initially entered into the contract for the balance of its term
So you can see, the amnesty buyout is really the ONLY useful option for the Nucks and all of their potential trade partners know it.

As for what we'd give up...I think everyone knows this team well enough to realize that they're snakebitten by DP's and Yashin's contract to certainly not want to buy into a contract like this when they have three long term prospects at the position already in their system. It simply makes no sense and WON"T happen.

Xxkeaner17xX
- keaner17

Downeaster is that you??