Pot meet kettle.....
- chompsey

if laughing is whining, absolutely

I can't help it if you don't like my opinion, but that sure as hell doesn't mean I'm wrong or that you're not crying about it. enjoy!

if laughing is whining, absolutely

I can't help it if you don't like my opinion, but that sure as hell doesn't mean I'm wrong or that you're not crying about it. enjoy!
- Isles_since_6

Thanks troll, have a good one.....

That was to go see Mason Raymond Weise and Lapierre next year Nino Jensen Gaunce will attract new fans


Waiting for Fosco to say Gaunce won't make it and no promises on the other two.

They should have some new exciting players next year.
- VANTEL

Gaunce could make it as a 4th liner, possibly, but it would be a bad move in terms of his development.

I'd rather he tops out as a top6 F rather than a bottom6—letting him develop his offence playing big minutes in key situations as the go-to forward in the OHL is a much better course of action. Simple as that.

It's in Vancouver and Gaunce's best interest to be patient.

They can't afford to (frank) up the development of the few high end prospects they have.

Thanks troll, have a good one.....
- chompsey

don't worry, I'll visit again later, stuff to do!

Gaunce could make it as a 4th liner, possibly, but it would be a bad move in terms of his development.

I'd rather he tops out as a top6 F rather than a bottom6—letting him develop his offence playing big minutes in key situations as the go-to forward in the OHL is a much better course of action. Simple as that.

It's in Vancouver and Gaunce's best interest to be patient.

They can't afford to (frank) up the development of the few high end prospects they have.
- Fosco

this is how the Isles messed up Bailey, who is just now showing he may be coming around. If Gaunce isn't ready this year it doesn't mean he's a bust or the pick was a failure, just needs more time.

Lol and lucic.
- manvanfan

The Lucic thing has been discussed ad nauseum over on HF.

Boston reached quite a bit to get Lucic, picking him higher than he was projected to go. It was a gamble, and it paid off huge.

And Canucks didn't even have a 2nd rounder that year. They would have been laughed at if Nonis had picked Lucic with their first.

It's more of a Boston scouting win than a Canucks scouting loss. But it still sucks, I agree, especially since he was in their back yard.

Lots of teams passed on him twice.

EDIT: I think the Gallagher miss is more of a scouting failure.

this is how the Isles messed up Bailey, who is just now showing he may be coming around. If Gaunce isn't ready this year it doesn't mean he's a bust or the pick was a failure, just needs more time.
- Isles_since_6

I don't think anybody thinks he's a bust—he had a fantastic year after he recovered from his shoulder injury.

Gaunce could probably hold down a 4th line C spot in the NHL—he's got the size, defensive ability, and is great in the circle (albeit against OHLers)—but his offense needs work.

The OHL is the best league for young players to develop their offence.

It could mean the difference between him topping out as a Malhotra type if he doesn't improve his offense, or a J.Staal type if he does.

I know which one I'd prefer...

this is how the Isles messed up Bailey, who is just now showing he may be coming around. If Gaunce isn't ready this year it doesn't mean he's a bust or the pick was a failure, just needs more time.
- Isles_since_6

Its nice to see, I always liked Bailey and his skill level that I've been sitting on him for 3 years in my keeper pool. Saw a lot of down fans on him over the years...

Its nice to see, I always liked Bailey and his skill level that I've been sitting on him for 3 years in my keeper pool. Saw a lot of down fans on him over the years...
- chompsey

most of us this year (Isles fans) were down on Bailey and Okposo. Both started to pick their game up huge in the last month of the season and Okposo was a beast in the playoffs, but both have also done this in small amounts over their careers, until they play a full season that way they're both still question marks. Plenty of us would love to say Okposo has arrived, but one month and a playoff series isn't enough to feel confident he's figured it out.

I wasn't suggesting Gaunce was a bust, although I imagine some would (as we've done with Bailey over most of the last 5 years) just meaning that he would need more time if he's not ready.

BTW, I'm definitely NOT saying the Isles are better than the Canucks, I've spent most of the year ripping the Isles coach, a lot of their players and Snow for playing some waiver pick ups ahead of the kids i'd really like to see on the big club. I am overly critical if anything.

The Lucic thing has been discussed ad nauseum over on HF.

Boston reached quite a bit to get Lucic, picking him higher than he was projected to go. It was a gamble, and it paid off huge.

It's more of a Boston scouting win than a Canucks scouting loss. But it still sucks, I agree, especially since he was in their back yard.

Lots of teams passed on him twice.

EDIT: I think the Gallagher miss is more of a scouting failure.
- Fosco

abso-(frank)ing-lutely

Gaunce could make it as a 4th liner, possibly, but it would be a bad move in terms of his development.

I'd rather he tops out as a top6 F rather than a bottom6—letting him develop his offence playing big minutes in key situations as the go-to forward in the OHL is a much better course of action. Simple as that.

It's in Vancouver and Gaunce's best interest to be patient.

They can't afford to (frank) up the development of the few high end prospects they have.
- Fosco

I haven't seen him play .If he is ready fine, if not ,fine also. Kids nowadays are bigger ,faster ,more mature, and more prepared . The same could be said about Corrado but that kid looks NHL ready now . Not all rookies need a tilt in the AHL .

That said Gaunce probably will ,be on the farm .

The Lucic thing has been discussed ad nauseum over on HF.

Boston reached quite a bit to get Lucic, picking him higher than he was projected to go. It was a gamble, and it paid off huge.

And Canucks didn't even have a 2nd rounder that year. They would have been laughed at if Nonis had picked Lucic with their first.

It's more of a Boston scouting win than a Canucks scouting loss. But it still sucks, I agree, especially since he was in their back yard.

Lots of teams passed on him twice.

EDIT: I think the Gallagher miss is more of a scouting failure.
- Fosco

I really think that it is incumbent on the Canucks to draft a Vancouver Giant as often as possible, even if its a 6th or 7th rounder. Its a HUGE marketing win should they ever make it to the show.....can you imagine Gallagher or Franson or Lucic sporting the Orca?

I really think that it is incumbent on the Canucks to draft a Vancouver Giant as often as possible, even if its a 6th or 7th rounder. Its a HUGE marketing win should they ever make it to the show.....can you imagine Gallagher or Franson or Lucic sporting the Orca?
- chompsey

the only problem is what if they ended up with Brule? It's so hard to tell once you get past the top few picks in a draft.

I haven't seen him play .If he is ready fine, if not ,fine also. Kids nowadays are bigger ,faster ,more mature, and more prepared . The same could be said about Corrado but that kid looks NHL ready now . Not all rookies need a tilt in the AHL .

That said Gaunce probably will ,be on the farm .
- VANTEL

I think he should play there a couple of seasons....look at Detroit, they keep their kids there for usually 2-3 years and they all come up NHL ready.

I know we need players on ELC in our lineup but once you start the precedent, you can maintain it.....

the only problem is what if they ended up with Brule? It's so hard to tell once you get past the top few picks in a draft.
- Isles_since_6

Brule was a beast until the BJ's rushed him and he got injured, which slowed down his career. I hear what you are saying, but I think that most 6th/7th round picks are such a longshot, why not use it on a local boy? The publicity and financial gain should that player actually make it would be worth that risk. In this example, I am thinking Gallagher, but I'm sure a Mikkelson or Franson could have been had in the 2nd/3rd/4th rounds...

the only problem is what if they ended up with Brule? It's so hard to tell once you get past the top few picks in a draft.
- Isles_since_6

I still think Brule could have been a decent NHL player. Victim of poor professional development. Now he's just a very rich pot head...


I'm jealous.

I know they had issues selling so they offered them out at a 50% discount. Think that got them sold.
- AlexF

for employees

I still think Brule could have been a decent NHL player. Victim of poor professional development. Now he's just a very rich pot head...


I'm jealous.
- bloatedmosquito

it's definitely possible, when he was drafted I was pissed Columbus got him and was convinced he was going to do very well. He was a lot of fun to watch with the Giants the few times I was able to go.

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I think he should play there a couple of seasons....look at Detroit, they keep their kids there for usually 2-3 years and they all come up NHL ready.

I know we need players on ELC in our lineup but once you start the precedent, you can maintain it.....
- chompsey

Then you become the Oilers

hi
- Fidel

Shouldn't you update your location? It's so last week.

Then you become the Oilers
- VANTEL

Not the whole team Vantel!!! Just a few...

Then you become the Oilers
- VANTEL

Richard Cloutier is also dillhole.....

I don't think anybody thinks he's a bust—he had a fantastic year after he recovered from his shoulder injury.

Gaunce could probably hold down a 4th line C spot in the NHL—he's got the size, defensive ability, and is great in the circle (albeit against OHLers)—but his offense needs work.

The OHL is the best league for young players to develop their offence.

It could mean the difference between him topping out as a Malhotra type if he doesn't improve his offense, or a J.Staal type if he does.

I know which one I'd prefer...
- Fosco

Exactly. Send him back for a year in the OHL at least, if not another in the AHL. If we cant find a 4th line center we have serious F#&#ing problems. Get gordon just saying.

the only problem is what if they ended up with Brule? It's so hard to tell once you get past the top few picks in a draft.
- Isles_since_6

Brule had unreal talent unfortunately it ended up being wasted with CBJ rushing him and then him lacking any drive or motivation to be a success. See multiple drug references...