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allen_gamble
Joined: 04.05.2012

May 30 @ 6:23 PM ET
Either way, a #24 pick won't be helping this team for several years at the very least. The only way we'll be injecting immediate ELCs onto our active roster is by trading for a top 10 (more likely top 5) pick.
- AlexF


Totally agree. Morin for exampleis probably 3 years away. A couple of the forwards could maybe step in for the following year.
allen_gamble
Joined: 04.05.2012

May 30 @ 6:25 PM ET
seriously? you wouldn't be happy with a 6' 200lb defenseman with a 101mph slapshot? I wouldn't be upset if the Isles drafted him at 15.
- Isles_since_6


I think Pullock goes to the NYI at 15 unless Zadorov, Nurse or Ristolanian is still there.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 30 @ 6:28 PM ET
I don't think gaunce dropped at all. He is who I had van picking last year.
- manvanfan


You might want to actually check the rankings before making a statement like this.

Gaunce was ranked 15-20 in most rankings. Even earlier in one or two, if I remember correctly.

EDIT: 11th overall for NA skaters on NHL.com
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 30 @ 6:32 PM ET
Hoping Domi slides or they move up about 10 spots but it wont happen.

Hoping for Rychel, Horvat, Lazar, Morin, Morrisey, Pullok, petan, gauthier

- allen_gamble


I'd love Zadorov, I feel he could be the next Nik Kronwall...

you just got Zadorovwalled..crushed?.. YEA!!!!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 30 @ 6:33 PM ET
You might want to actually check the rankings before making a statement like this.

Gaunce was ranked 15-20 in most rankings. Even earlier in one or two, if I remember correctly.

- Fosco


I know this. First ranking he was 7th I believe. I guess that we would get Jensen the year before too. I pick three players going into the draft that van will pick and I've been correct two years in a row.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 30 @ 6:34 PM ET
You might want to actually check the rankings before making a statement like this.

Gaunce was ranked 15-20 in most rankings. Even earlier in one or two, if I remember correctly.

EDIT: 11th overall for NA skaters on NHL.com

- Fosco


Who would of thought Calgary takes jankuowski at 21 last year? I could be incorrect on the spelling of his name and what number they picked him at.
steve362
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: St. John's, NF
Joined: 07.07.2010

May 30 @ 6:35 PM ET
Who would of thought Calgary takes jankuowski at 21 last year? I could be incorrect on the spelling of his name and what number they picked him at.
- manvanfan


Don't you know the rules of the internet?

THOU SHALL NOT MISPELL WRODS!!!
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 30 @ 6:37 PM ET
Don't you know the rules of the internet?

THOU SHALL NOT MISPELL WRODS!!!

- steve362


People believe anything on the Internet.
Jimka44
Vancouver Canucks
Joined: 03.01.2006

May 30 @ 6:41 PM ET
I draft the biggest SOB available
golfingsince
Location: This message is Marwood approved!
Joined: 11.30.2011

May 30 @ 6:41 PM ET
I don't think gaunce dropped at all. He is who I had van picking last year.
- manvanfan


He was projected middle first round, probably late teens.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 30 @ 6:46 PM ET
I draft the biggest SOB available
- Jimka44

I hate to say it but yeah look at Chara. I watched him in juniors almost every home game. His skating needed serious improvement but this kid was gonna be dam good. I figured he would go in the top ten but 56th overall???WTF. Anyway get em big teach them to skate.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
I know this. First ranking he was 7th I believe. I guess that we would get Jensen the year before too. I pick three players going into the draft that van will pick and I've been correct two years in a row.
- manvanfan


Those are both good guesses.

Can't remember where Jensen was ranked per draft.

I remember hoping Gaunce would fall to the Canucks before the draft, but didn't think he would fall that far—I remember seeing him in the mid teens on most rankings.
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 6:48 PM ET
I hate to say it but yeah look at Chara. I watched him in juniors almost every home game. His skating needed serious improvement but this kid was gonna be dam good. I figured he would go in the top ten but 56th overall???WTF. Anyway get em big teach them to skate.
- thundachunk


he was stuck using a stick that was way too small for him early on too until they changed the rules. Milbury still pisses me off.
Fosco
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Marwood's Beotch, BC
Joined: 12.08.2007

May 30 @ 6:49 PM ET
I draft the biggest SOB available
- Jimka44


They've drafted big the last two drafts. I'd like to see them draft for skill with the first pick this year—that's what the system lacks.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 30 @ 6:50 PM ET
He was projected middle first round, probably late teens.
- golfingsince


The ranking don't mean much out of the top 3. Filip forsberg went 11th ranked #1 European skater. Griffin Reinhart ranked 10 NA taken 4th. Grigrenko 12th ranked 3rd NA. So what's your point?
Isles_since_6
New York Islanders
Location: Vancouver, BC
Joined: 07.13.2009

May 30 @ 6:50 PM ET
Those are both good guesses.

Can't remember where Jensen was ranked per draft.

I remember hoping Gaunce would fall to the Canucks before the draft, but didn't think he would fall that far—I remember seeing him in the mid teens on most rankings.

- Fosco


I also remember the NHL draft broadcast where they said Gaunce was a good pick up for Vancouver. So hard to tell at the draft outside of the top couple blue chips. Development depends on how they're handled and how much motivation they have, and it's always a bit of a crap shoot. Plus people are tempted to write off prospects a year or two after their draft when very few are making an impact that soon.
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 30 @ 6:51 PM ET
he was stuck using a stick that was way too small for him early on too until they changed the rules. Milbury still pisses me off.
- Isles_since_6

Who the f@ck does't Mildew piss off. Fighting the puck in your feet is not good when your tall. Thats like me @ 5'10" playing with a peewee stick
thundachunk
Location: Help
Joined: 12.31.2011

May 30 @ 6:54 PM ET
I also remember the NHL draft broadcast where they said Gaunce was a good pick up for Vancouver. So hard to tell at the draft outside of the top couple blue chips. Development depends on how they're handled and how much motivation they have, and it's always a bit of a crap shoot. Plus people are tempted to write off prospects a year or two after their draft when very few are making an impact that soon.
- Isles_since_6

Gillis was overly excited when he was able to draft Gaunce when he did.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 30 @ 6:56 PM ET
I also remember the NHL draft broadcast where they said Gaunce was a good pick up for Vancouver. So hard to tell at the draft outside of the top couple blue chips. Development depends on how they're handled and how much motivation they have, and it's always a bit of a crap shoot. Plus people are tempted to write off prospects a year or two after their draft when very few are making an impact that soon.
- Isles_since_6


The worst part to me about vancouvers drafting is that I watch CHL games if they are on tv or I'm in a place that has a team and with the wheat kings in my hometown. There are players I see and I'm like poop are they drafted? Go home and find out they were taken 5 round or higher and they are top 20 in league scoring.
jribout
Season Ticket Holder
Toronto Maple Leafs
Location: ON
Joined: 01.24.2011

May 30 @ 7:02 PM ET
Totally agree. Morin for exampleis probably 3 years away. A couple of the forwards could maybe step in for the following year.
- allen_gamble



I think Morin could be a steal. Definitely a risk...
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 30 @ 7:17 PM ET
This will sound strange to some. Well everything I say does but...
I would like to try and get Eric Wellwood from Philadelphia. If We can get him cheap. I think he would make a great cheap third liner. Career nhl stats 31 gp 11 pts +13
He hasn't really been given a chance by Philadelphia because of their forward depth. Kind of reminds me of Raymond but more physical.
AlexF
Vancouver Canucks
Location: Whistler, BC
Joined: 06.25.2011

May 30 @ 7:18 PM ET
The worst part to me about vancouvers drafting is that I watch CHL games if they are on tv or I'm in a place that has a team and with the wheat kings in my hometown. There are players I see and I'm like poop are they drafted? Go home and find out they were taken 5 round or higher and they are top 20 in league scoring.
- manvanfan


I remember watching Brendan Gallagher playing for the Giants for a few years and thinking the guy was awesome. He literally seemed to do everything and be everywhere, even dropped the gloves. How our scouts missed him when he was playing on our porch for several years baffles me.

Glad we picked McNally and Polasek ahead of him.
Trevor_Neufeld
Calgary Flames
Location: Calgary, AB
Joined: 02.11.2007

May 30 @ 7:21 PM ET
Decent blog but it would probably be safe to assume their first pick will be a bust. Anyone remember 2010 where their first pick was in the 4th? Pat Mcnally ftw.

Speaking of Pats, Patrick White... Why.
manvanfan
Vancouver Canucks
Location: MB
Joined: 01.21.2012

May 30 @ 7:22 PM ET
I remember watching Brendan Gallagher playing for the Giants for a few years and thinking the guy was awesome. He literally seemed to do everything and be everywhere, even dropped the gloves. How our scouts missed him when he was playing on our porch for several years baffles me.

Glad we picked McNally and Polasek ahead of him.

- AlexF


Lol and lucic.
VANTEL
Joined: 07.03.2010

May 30 @ 7:24 PM ET
this is some funny stuff
- Isles_since_6


Geez Nino and Rocky D for Lu

Where have I heard this before
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